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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 12, 2016 6:12:56 GMT -8
has our chief checked in yet?
We could always say our first names and wait to see if there is someone who takes too long to come up with one...(J/King)
But seriously forks, I think we need to talk about who we find scummy, recommendations? Who would be FOR recommendations? We have a case for "let each person do what they want" but I'm not sure each side of my triangle sees the same triangle. So letting each person do what they want may still leave a Kira saved and a detective out in the cold
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:16:56 GMT -8
God dammit... I'm dumb. Just realised something about the role pm. Everyone should look at it again, details are hidden in the context. Not seeing much and mine looks exactly like the example.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 6:17:59 GMT -8
Kark does Kira HAVE to write a name every night?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:18:51 GMT -8
has our chief checked in yet? We could always say our first names and wait to see if there is someone who takes too long to come up with one...(J/King) But seriously forks, I think we need to talk about who we find scummy, recommendations? Who would be FOR recommendations? We have a case for "let each person do what they want" but I'm not sure each side of my triangle sees the same triangle. So letting each person do what they want may still leave a Kira saved and a detective out in the cold I think we should 100% talk about it but this early, idk how much there is to say. We probably need a few passes to notice anything weird. Aside from Kawl saying no recommendations at least.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 12, 2016 6:21:24 GMT -8
God dammit... I'm dumb. Just realised something about the role pm. Everyone should look at it again, details are hidden in the context. Not seeing much and mine looks exactly like the example. Same here, no idea what the cute kitty is talking about.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:21:35 GMT -8
I'm in the camp of not giving it to Kawl.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 6:23:27 GMT -8
Does anyone see a problem with outing who our "partners" are? The user, not the full name. I mean, there's only one scum.
I know CrimsonFist.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:31:01 GMT -8
Right now, I'm against it. Obviously not everyone has a partner. If you happen to die because Kira somehow found your name we instantly suspect Crimson even though he might not be responsible. Those information are not public for a reason? I think this would be a good balance to let Kira survive the first phases. Create mistrust among the townies, until they figure out what these random pairings actually do.
If you think further about it if you Ourobolus die and CrimsonFist is scum, how would we catch him afterwards without any prior outing? This is definitely not the way how Kira would know our names.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 12, 2016 6:31:13 GMT -8
I'll confirm that I know Orobolus and only Orobolus.
Interesting that a few other people seem to be hinting that they're in groups of 3.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:33:58 GMT -8
Interesting that a few other people seem to be hinting that they're in groups of 3. Sorian and Zipped to name them, right?
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 12, 2016 6:34:03 GMT -8
Right now, I'm against it. Obviously not everyone has a partner. If you happen to die because Kira somehow found your name we instantly suspect Crimson even though he might not be responsible. Those information are not public for a reason? I think this would be a good balance to let Kira survive the first phases. Create mistrust among the townies, until they figure out what these random pairings actually do. If you think further about it if you Ourobolus die and CrimsonFist is scum, how would we catch him afterwards without any prior outing? This is definitely not the way how Kira would know our names. What makes you say this?
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 6:34:20 GMT -8
I'm making an assumption about "N1,"yes.
Also, i assume there is at least one group of three since we have 13 players.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 12, 2016 6:34:30 GMT -8
Interesting that a few other people seem to be hinting that they're in groups of 3. Sorian and Zipped to name them, right? Right
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:38:29 GMT -8
Gut feeling, also Ourob pointed out that not everyone has a partner, but maybe two.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:40:14 GMT -8
Yes, I most definitely know two other people's names. Groups of two is interesting, I do think anyone who only knows one other name should claim who they are because if one of the pair turns up dead then we have a place to start. Kark said Kira is only killing one a day so the groups of 3 can stay quiet for now, if one of your group dies then you should speak up. Unfortunately, we don't know what tools Kira has to find names (if any) so this could lead to possible frame jobs but it's a start.
I also find it interesting that Ouro assumed some people didn't know names, why is that?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:40:45 GMT -8
Gorlak said it, not Ouro, whoops
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 12, 2016 6:43:19 GMT -8
Gut feeling, also Ourob pointed out that not everyone has a partner, but maybe two. So it's not that you specifically don't have a partner then? Damn, we've played five minutes and Sorian is in full shenanigans mode. What are you talking about? Because what Sorian was talking about should have been pretty clear to anyone who was in a group.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:46:15 GMT -8
Reading Gorlak's last few posts, I disagree with him pretty much completely which is leading to some distrust. It sounds anti-information which we will need if someone dies. Using Crimson/Ouro as an example, sure one might die and they are both town but having that link to discuss in the case of one of their deaths is necessary. If we don't have it then an Ouro death would mean that Crimson could either tell the truth or lie and say he had no partner and no one is there to corroborate in any way.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 6:47:25 GMT -8
Ok, let me put it this way:
What is the utility in me knowing Crimsob's real name, from a town perspective?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 6:50:08 GMT -8
Ok, let me put it this way: What is the utility in me knowing Crimsob's real name, from a town perspective? Well, now that we know that only Kira can write on the book, I assume nothing. Oceanic did say the book comes with some stuff already written though so I don't think we have enough of the full picture to answer that question yet.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:50:17 GMT -8
Kawl do you have a partner?
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 6:51:54 GMT -8
Ok, let me put it this way: What is the utility in me knowing Crimsob's real name, from a town perspective? Well, now that we know that only Kira can write on the book, I assume nothing. Oceanic did say the book comes with some stuff already written though so I don't think we have enough of the full picture to answer that question yet. Probably. I'm just spitballing.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 12, 2016 6:56:13 GMT -8
There likely to be some utility to us knowing each others names, although maybe not pro town.
If we go by fluff, Kira can control the actions of those who's names he writes in the Death Note. Maybe he can compel his targets to reveal their partners names or something.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:56:35 GMT -8
I don't know it it was intended by Kark, but the messages on outer gafia show the participants. So zipped's "if they all see the same triangle" should be cleared once you look at your pm again. Yeah, that was what I was referring to with "details in the context".
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 7:00:21 GMT -8
I don't know it it was intended by Kark, but the messages on outer gafia show the participants. So zipped's "if they all see the same triangle" should be cleared once you look at your pm again. Yeah, that was what I was referring to with "details in the context". True, you can see that no fuckery was involved when it came to who got the same message as you though Kark could have easily just sent a second PM of the same to someone else so idk how much that is worth.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 7:10:01 GMT -8
We should probably let the threesomes survive, I'm guessing 3x3 and 2x2 = 13. Threesomes should hold tight on the information and not reveal who they know, so if one dies the other two (one is 100% town) come clear and we could look at that case.
But than again I'm having a hard time imagining this as the way to hunt down scum. Sounds too easy. mmw the pairings are a red herring.
However that's still why I'm against revealing what you know, but I admit I don't know how the pairs fit in here and I certainly don't know how Kark intended the game to go down.
Ah, yeah I don't like Sorian suggesting he got more than one message.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 12, 2016 7:13:53 GMT -8
Honestly I think our "partners" is as much a way to help Kira find names as it is for us to clear town.
Kira likely has an ability to either see those name PMs, or find them after death.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 12, 2016 7:21:12 GMT -8
Honestly I think our "partners" is as much a way to help Kira find names as it is for us to clear town. Kira likely has an ability to either see those name PMs, or find them after death. I think Kira is part of one of those groups under a fake name and know some of our names already. Else it would be easy for everyone to just claim and verify each other until only a couple of players are left.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 7:22:10 GMT -8
Ah, yeah I don't like Sorian suggesting he got more than one message. That's odd because I got two just like it looks like most people did.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 7:26:20 GMT -8
Ah, yeah I don't like Sorian suggesting he got more than one message. That's odd because I got two just like it looks like most people did. You're basically saying you know the names of two groups of people?
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