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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 11, 2016 11:53:43 GMT -8
Will there be a time limit on how long each person can hold the note? Seems like they'd have to be, if it needs to be passed to all but one person each "day" phase.
That could be hurt a lot by in-actives in a live game.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 12:24:19 GMT -8
Your real name isn't your username, but a secret name I'll give you via PM. I haven't sent PMs out yet (caught up at work, sorry!) But before I send them out, feel free to ask me any questions about the game rules, without fear of giving yourself away. I'm still sort of lost on the whole 'real name' mechanic but I'll wait until the PMs go out and see if it makes more sense. I've also never seen/read Death Note so that's probably not helping much either. :x I am pretty curious how the vote chain will work with people being in different timezones. Same with inactives/people intentionally holding the book. It would be easy to just clog up the system by not casting a vote right away. Hmm...we all also only get 1 vote, so that will be interesting to see played out. |
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 12:30:23 GMT -8
But you're not karkador. How could you possibly know? O.o I don't. I just did as you wished :p |
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 11, 2016 12:33:06 GMT -8
Will there be a time limit on how long each person can hold the note? Seems like they'd have to be, if it needs to be passed to all but one person each "day" phase. That could be hurt a lot by in-actives in a live game. True, but on the other hand any time limit that is below 24 hours would be unfair since someone's vote periode could fall in a period that person is busy/sleeping. |
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 12:36:45 GMT -8
Your real name isn't your username, but a secret name I'll give you via PM. I haven't sent PMs out yet (caught up at work, sorry!) But before I send them out, feel free to ask me any questions about the game rules, without fear of giving yourself away. I'm still sort of lost on the whole 'real name' mechanic but I'll wait until the PMs go out and see if it makes more sense. I've also never seen/read Death Note so that's probably not helping much either. :x I am pretty curious how the vote chain will work with people being in different timezones. Same with inactives/people intentionally holding the book. It would be easy to just clog up the system by not casting a vote right away. Hmm...we all also only get 1 vote, so that will be interesting to see played out. Trying to think of a different way to explain it. Honestly, the easiest is to just pretend real life vs. gafia. We all know you as Sawneeks. The book kills someone if their real name is written in it. If we wrote in Sawneeks, that doesn't actually do anything because that's not your real name. So we are all going to have a real name assigned to us. I'd imagine there are PRs around that can sniff out real names or if you are Blarg level insane, you could encode your own name into a riddle if you want. |
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 12:40:55 GMT -8
24 hours roy? That'd be insanely slow :( Let's do this in 24 minutes each! This is a test, we should experiment. I'm all up for a 1h whole day phase, but I'd be tricky to find a suiting hour for everyone involved, maybe at some later stage with fewer people? And just imagine the worst case 12 (?) days to finish the first phase?
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Post by weemadarthur on Mar 11, 2016 12:41:47 GMT -8
But you're not karkador. How could you possibly know? O.o I don't. I just did as you wished  Fair enough! It actually made me feel better briefly. Then I went and did a couple hours of work.  |
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 11, 2016 12:51:05 GMT -8
24 hours roy? That'd be insanely slow  Let's do this in 24 minutes each! This is a test, we should experiment. I'm all up for a 1h whole day phase, but I'd be tricky to find a suiting hour for everyone involved, maybe at some later stage with fewer people? And just imagine the worst case 12 (?) days to finish the first phase? I mean, yes, the exact reason for this test is to figure these things out, so we probably should use different times to see what works and what doesn't. That's why it's good you and me (and maybe some other Europeans?) are in here to see how that works. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 12:51:48 GMT -8
I'm still sort of lost on the whole 'real name' mechanic but I'll wait until the PMs go out and see if it makes more sense. I've also never seen/read Death Note so that's probably not helping much either. :x Same with inactives/people intentionally holding the book. It would be easy to just clog up the system by not casting a vote right away. Hmm...we all also only get 1 vote, so that will be interesting to see played out. Trying to think of a different way to explain it. Honestly, the easiest is to just pretend real life vs. gafia. We all know you as Sawneeks. The book kills someone if their real name is written in it. If we wrote in Sawneeks, that doesn't actually do anything because that's not your real name. So we are all going to have a real name assigned to us. I'd imagine there are PRs around that can sniff out real names or if you are Blarg level insane, you could encode your own name into a riddle if you want. Okay, that makes a lot more sense. Thank you! |
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 12:55:19 GMT -8
24 hours roy? That'd be insanely slow Let's do this in 24 minutes each! This is a test, we should experiment. I'm all up for a 1h whole day phase, but I'd be tricky to find a suiting hour for everyone involved, maybe at some later stage with fewer people? And just imagine the worst case 12 (?) days to finish the first phase? I mean, yes, the exact reason for this test is to figure these things out, so we probably should use different times to see what works and what doesn't. That's why it's good you and me (and maybe some other Europeans?) are in here to see how that works. Europeans are shifty assholes so I'll make sure to never give any of you the book.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 11, 2016 13:02:50 GMT -8
I mean, yes, the exact reason for this test is to figure these things out, so we probably should use different times to see what works and what doesn't. That's why it's good you and me (and maybe some other Europeans?) are in here to see how that works. Europeans are shifty assholes so I'll make sure to never give any of you the book.
We jokingly talked about a euro only gafia game in the steam group chat. That sounds very appealing right now  |
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 13:21:10 GMT -8
I was thinking of doing 12 hour time limits for players - it works out to an entire round taking a week at most, which is in line with other gafia games.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 13:31:39 GMT -8
Hey Kark, do you have a rough time-frame for when you want to start this today? I've got some stuff I need to do today but I want to make sure I'm around for when the game begins.
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 13:43:09 GMT -8
Sorry for the wait, guys. I've been busy at work today (I was hoping to at least get you all started while I was here).
I get home in a little under two hours. Then we'll begin.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 13:45:22 GMT -8
No worries Kark!
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 11, 2016 14:13:20 GMT -8
So...basically we pass the notebook around during the day, and whoever never gets it passed TO them is eliminated? If I have the notebook first, can I just pass it to one person (who I hope isn't Kira, if I'm town), and have a 12/13 chance of winning if he/she never passes it on, since everyone else, including myself, would be dead?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 14:14:25 GMT -8
So...basically we pass the notebook around during the day, and whoever never gets it passed TO them is eliminated? If I have the notebook first, can I just pass it to one person (who I hope isn't Kira, if I'm town), and have a 12/13 chance of winning if he/she never passes it on, since everyone else, including myself, would be dead? The day doesn't end until it has been passed to everyone except for one person. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 11, 2016 14:15:42 GMT -8
The OP says there's a time limit though?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 14:17:01 GMT -8
The OP says there's a time limit though? To avoid inactivity stalling the game, I'd assume the pass is RNG'd if you hold the book for too long. |
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Post by Splinter on Mar 11, 2016 14:43:18 GMT -8
I'm cabot lets do this
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Post by Splinter on Mar 11, 2016 14:43:53 GMT -8
Sorry you know what I mean |
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 14:47:34 GMT -8
human needs sleep.
human will join game after sleep.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 11, 2016 14:55:00 GMT -8
human needs sleep. human will join game after sleep. U no kitty? OWL is Dissapointed |
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 11, 2016 18:13:33 GMT -8
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 20:00:44 GMT -8
Delivering in progress. Sorry for being late! D:
If I may ask, please save anymore comments until I officially start the game.
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 22:01:37 GMT -8
We are just about ready to begin!
Just a few more rules issues and things to sort out: - To clarify, the PASS: command is done right here in the game thread, using the usernames of players - not necessarily their "Real Names" (check your PM for your "Real Name"). Remember - Kira needs Real Names to perform their kills...it's a bad idea to make that info public!
- I'm taking back what I said about Kira being able to kill multiple targets in one round. For the sake of the test's simplicity, I've reworked it, so completely disregard that. I'm drunk and I'm going home.
- more answers to your questions to come..
As per usual, here's the generic PM text for the Ordinary players - no shenanigans! You are an Ordinary Detective, aligned with the Detectives. Your Real Name is (Real Name).
The international manhunt for the genocidal phenomenon known as "Kira" took you on several twists, turns, and tears before the investigation narrowed down to your current situation - a stand-off with the 12 other detectives who were on the case, in the police station where the Death Note was being held as evidence.
It's become clear - Kira is among you.Each round, you may be passed the Death Note by another player. If you are holding the Death Note, you will receive a PM with the contents written in it. You will then have 12 hours to PASS the book to another player by using the command " PASS: <player name>". It is not necessarily to know a player's Real Name to pass the Death Note to them. This once-per-day action will declare another player "Safe" from elimination for the round, so be careful who you pass it to! You win when all the forces of Kira are eliminated. You lose when all the Detectives are eliminated.
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 22:03:36 GMT -8
THE FIRST DAY BEGINS(bolded and highlighted player ('the current player') possesses the Death Note) 1. Oceanic Air (Chief)2. CornBurrito 3. Sorian 4. *Splinter 5. roy Theone 6. Sawneeks 7. Fireblend 8. Zippedpinhead 9. CrimsonFist 10. Gorlak 11. Ourobolus 12. Kawl_USC 13. weemadarthur Oceanic Air, the designated Chief Inspector, starts every day phase in possession of the Death Note. This role modifier was randomly assigned to any player (regardless of alignment). The Chief stays The Chief until eliminated. When eliminated, new rounds will begin with the Death Note in the hands of the player who held it last. I'll be nice, and give a little extra time to settle in. The current player has this much time before RNG passes the Notebook: 
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 22:08:36 GMT -8
Hi everyone, I don't have a pre-typed message for this game. Scum tell.
Sup boys.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 22:25:52 GMT -8
Anime is for Scum.
It's nothing but trash.
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 22:26:25 GMT -8
Well this was a pleasant surprise. Was just going to suggest making a post in the general thread, but I see you have that covered.
Couple of quick questions that I hope are okay: 1) Once there is one person remaining who hasn't had the book that person is eliminated (this is in essence our day lynch as town, yes?) 2) After that Kira has the chance to write in the real name of someone to the Death Note and do their "night kill" equivalent?
Or does Kira have to write in the name while its being handed around during the day. If that's the case is there ever a case in which a town person writing in the book is beneficial?
I'll also go ahead and say that I'm against any sort of attempt at telling the current holder of the book who to pass it too, especially early on when we are all working off of basically no information besides Kira. Trying to do the pass by committee will dilute our ability to hold people accountable for their actions, imo. As we approach something closer to mylo I think it should become more of a communal affair maybe.
This game should be interesting though.
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Let's do this in 24 minutes each! This is a test, we should experiment. I'm all up for a 1h whole day phase, but I'd be tricky to find a suiting hour for everyone involved, maybe at some later stage with fewer people? And just imagine the worst case 12 (?) days to finish the first phase?
