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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 22:28:05 GMT -8
Couple of quick questions that I hope are okay: 1) Once there is one person remaining who hasn't had the book that person is eliminated (this is in essence our day lynch as town, yes?) 2) After that Kira has the chance to write in the real name of someone to the Death Note and do their "night kill" equivalent? This is correct. Do keep in mind that if we want Oceanic Air to stay alive, he will have to pass it off and someone later on will have to choose to pass it back to him.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 22:30:31 GMT -8
Well this was a pleasant surprise. Was just going to suggest making a post in the general thread, but I see you have that covered. Couple of quick questions that I hope are okay: 1) Once there is one person remaining who hasn't had the book that person is eliminated (this is in essence our day lynch as town, yes?) 2) After that Kira has the chance to write in the real name of someone to the Death Note and do their "night kill" equivalent? Or does Kira have to write in the name while its being handed around during the day. If that's the case is there ever a case in which a town person writing in the book is beneficial? I'll also go ahead and say that I'm against any sort of attempt at telling the current holder of the book who to pass it too, especially early on when we are all working off of basically no information besides Kira. Trying to do the pass by committee will dilute our ability to hold people accountable for their actions, imo. As we approach something closer to mylo I think it should become more of a communal affair maybe. This game should be interesting though. Also, to your post at large, with this set up, I can't say I care if someone wants to attempt to tell the current holder what to do. There is just one bad guy so no one is trying to help the killer. I would assume everyone was given a similar set of information (with slight overlap since groups of 3s) but that information in no way tells anyone alignments so it's all a crap shoot if you are town and trust someone or not.
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 22:31:29 GMT -8
Right, okay, I did pick up on that from the hypothetical posted earlier. I guess most of my questions will also become clearer once the book makes its first pass around so if Kark doesn't want to answer some of the other questions I put forth that's fine.
Looking at it though, I'd be hard pressed to think of any reason for a townsperson to write anything in the book. (Note, if you have a town sided role that involves writing something in the book, this isn't a call to claim or mention that. It's day one, votes shift around, Sorian parroting, don't role claim, scum tell, etc)
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 22:32:39 GMT -8
Well this was a pleasant surprise. Was just going to suggest making a post in the general thread, but I see you have that covered. Couple of quick questions that I hope are okay: 1) Once there is one person remaining who hasn't had the book that person is eliminated (this is in essence our day lynch as town, yes?) 2) After that Kira has the chance to write in the real name of someone to the Death Note and do their "night kill" equivalent? Or does Kira have to write in the name while its being handed around during the day. If that's the case is there ever a case in which a town person writing in the book is beneficial? I'll also go ahead and say that I'm against any sort of attempt at telling the current holder of the book who to pass it too, especially early on when we are all working off of basically no information besides Kira. Trying to do the pass by committee will dilute our ability to hold people accountable for their actions, imo. As we approach something closer to mylo I think it should become more of a communal affair maybe. This game should be interesting though. Also, to your post at large, with this set up, I can't say I care if someone wants to attempt to tell the current holder what to do. There is just one bad guy so no one is trying to help the killer. I would assume everyone was given a similar set of information ( with slight overlap since groups of 3s) but that information in no way tells anyone alignments so it's all a crap shoot if you are town and trust someone or not. Come again?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 22:33:40 GMT -8
Right, okay, I did pick up on that from the hypothetical posted earlier. I guess most of my questions will also become clearer once the book makes its first pass around so if Kark doesn't want to answer some of the other questions I put forth that's fine. Looking at it though, I'd be hard pressed to think of any reason for a townsperson to write anything in the book. (Note, if you have a town sided role that involves writing something in the book, this isn't a call to claim or mention that. It's day one, votes shift around, Sorian parroting, don't role claim, scum tell, etc) It's my understanding that no one except Kira has a special type of role. I'd also assume writing in the book is something anyone can do and instructions are provided when you get the book. Oceanic would have to confirm or deny that though.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 11, 2016 22:34:19 GMT -8
Also, to your post at large, with this set up, I can't say I care if someone wants to attempt to tell the current holder what to do. There is just one bad guy so no one is trying to help the killer. I would assume everyone was given a similar set of information ( with slight overlap since groups of 3s) but that information in no way tells anyone alignments so it's all a crap shoot if you are town and trust someone or not. Come again? Nah, that reaction was all I was interested in.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 22:37:27 GMT -8
Well this was a pleasant surprise. Was just going to suggest making a post in the general thread, but I see you have that covered. Couple of quick questions that I hope are okay: 1) Once there is one person remaining who hasn't had the book that person is eliminated (this is in essence our day lynch as town, yes?) 2) After that Kira has the chance to write in the real name of someone to the Death Note and do their "night kill" equivalent? Or does Kira have to write in the name while its being handed around during the day. If that's the case is there ever a case in which a town person writing in the book is beneficial? I'll also go ahead and say that I'm against any sort of attempt at telling the current holder of the book who to pass it too, especially early on when we are all working off of basically no information besides Kira. Trying to do the pass by committee will dilute our ability to hold people accountable for their actions, imo. As we approach something closer to mylo I think it should become more of a communal affair maybe. This game should be interesting though. Also, to your post at large, with this set up, I can't say I care if someone wants to attempt to tell the current holder what to do. There is just one bad guy so no one is trying to help the killer. I would assume everyone was given a similar set of information (with slight overlap since groups of 3s) but that information in no way tells anyone alignments so it's all a crap shoot if you are town and trust someone or not. Going a little meta for a second but we are also testing this whole set-up so balance and everything is a 50-50 right now until we get the game rolling and see if anything breaks or not. We're basically Day 1 blind on top of trying out a brand new voting mechanic. Kind of reminds me of the Avalon game we played. o:
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Post by karkador on Mar 11, 2016 22:40:38 GMT -8
Yes, the last player who gets left out of the book passing is essentially the town lynch. It's just that the way you arrive to that conclusion is different.
The Kira player acts when they possess the book.
Ordinary Town can't write in the book (see the role PM).
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 22:46:36 GMT -8
Nah, that reaction was all I was interested in. I do so hate cheeky mini gambit/ruse bs like this one day one. Especially in a set up that I'm still trying to make sure I understand actual game concepts/set up. Reminds me of VI shenanigans.... Yes, the last player who gets left out of the book passing is essentially the town lynch. It's just that the way you arrive to that conclusion is different. The Kira player acts when they possess the book. Ordinary Town can't write in the book (see the role PM). Ah got it. Thanks, boss.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 11, 2016 22:51:38 GMT -8
Nah, that reaction was all I was interested in. I do so hate cheeky mini gambit/ruse bs like this one day one. Especially in a set up that I'm still trying to make sure I understand actual game concepts/set up. Reminds me of VI shenanigans....If Sorian starts coughing I would start to worry.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:01:07 GMT -8
Human is ready. Okay, let's see this is a play test, so we do something stupid and see if we can break the game?
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:02:44 GMT -8
This is correct. Do keep in mind that if we want Oceanic Air to stay alive, he will have to pass it off and someone later on will have to choose to pass it back to him.[/quote]Why would I trust Oceanic Air?
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Post by OceanicAir on Mar 11, 2016 23:04:32 GMT -8
Right, okay, I did pick up on that from the hypothetical posted earlier. I guess most of my questions will also become clearer once the book makes its first pass around so if Kark doesn't want to answer some of the other questions I put forth that's fine. Looking at it though, I'd be hard pressed to think of any reason for a townsperson to write anything in the book. (Note, if you have a town sided role that involves writing something in the book, this isn't a call to claim or mention that. It's day one, votes shift around, Sorian parroting, don't role claim, scum tell, etc) It's my understanding that no one except Kira has a special type of role. I'd also assume writing in the book is something anyone can do and instructions are provided when you get the book. Oceanic would have to confirm or deny that though. The book doesn't really say much, all I know is that I have to pass it to someone else and I think that keeps them safe. So I'm just checking in right now but I'm gonna go to bed soon. Just want to say as of right now the Notebook wasn't given to me empty (although I'm not sure how relevant the contents are) and will wait until everyone else posts before passing it to the next person.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:10:20 GMT -8
The book doesn't really say much, all I know is that I have to pass it to someone else and I think that keeps them safe. So I'm just checking in right now but I'm gonna go to bed soon. Just want to say as of right now the Notebook wasn't given to me empty (although I'm not sure how relevant the contents are) and will wait until everyone else posts before passing it to the next person. Sounds like you want to save your ass. Not given empty? So if there happens to be a name in it already, it certainly wasn't you? ...
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:24:17 GMT -8
Kawl is disagree with your proposal of not suggesting who to give the book to. It's basically saying: hey guys, don't play the game, just pass the book randomly and we will figure things out or in other words: talking will hurt town.
Damn, we've played five minutes and Sorian is in full shenanigans mode. What are you talking about?
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:26:31 GMT -8
* I disagree
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 23:31:09 GMT -8
Discussing and talking about it is fine and dandy, but I meant that I didn't want the game to devolve into a mini psuedo vote every 12 hours to determine who to give the book to next with people being angry if someone didn't do what majority wanted. Which to me is more akin to saying unless someone votes for X I will be considering them scum in a more standard game. Talking (to a certain point) helps town it's our best tool for finding that scummy Kira, but people's votes/passes should be their own is all I'm saying.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 11, 2016 23:46:35 GMT -8
Yeah, a collective decision for every single passing won't happen, but you used some more radical words: "I'm against any sort of attempt at telling the current holder of the book who to pass it too"
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Post by Kawl on Mar 11, 2016 23:51:48 GMT -8
I'm saying even approaching a collective decision for every single passing or really any passing shouldn't be the goal.
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Post by weemadarthur on Mar 12, 2016 0:01:21 GMT -8
Is the scum a single person whose real name is Kira, or is kira an organization that scum belongs to and their name is different?
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Post by Kawl on Mar 12, 2016 0:14:45 GMT -8
IIRCX, in the show, Kira is a pseudonym of sorts that the protagonist/evil hero becomes known as. So not a real name.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 1:00:44 GMT -8
The curse of europe. Everyone else is sleeping in the morning... and it's raining here, great.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 12, 2016 2:01:44 GMT -8
So, if I understand it correctly, everyone that gets the book gets to look what is written in it, right? And since Kira has to write a name in it to preform his "night kill", can't we find out who Kira is by being fully open what we find in the book? Eventually, someone should see an extra name appearing, and thus the previous person with the book is Kira.
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Post by Splinter on Mar 12, 2016 2:08:51 GMT -8
But gafia told me I cant pressure people without a vote D:
Honestly though I'm a little confused, can we kill Sorian yet?
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 5:24:45 GMT -8
I'm bored.
Gulo gulo
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Post by Sorian on Mar 12, 2016 5:27:58 GMT -8
I do so hate cheeky mini gambit/ruse bs like this one day one. Especially in a set up that I'm still trying to make sure I understand actual game concepts/set up. Reminds me of VI shenanigans....If Sorian starts coughing I would start to worry. *cough* *cough* Yes, the last player who gets left out of the book passing is essentially the town lynch. It's just that the way you arrive to that conclusion is different. The Kira player acts when they possess the book. Ordinary Town can't write in the book (see the role PM). Good to know, thank you. Sounds like you want to save your ass. Not given empty? So if there happens to be a name in it already, it certainly wasn't you? ... Fair point but did you really think it would just be as easy as waiting for words to appear in the book and then killing the last person holding it? Kawl is disagree with your proposal of not suggesting who to give the book to. It's basically saying: hey guys, don't play the game, just pass the book randomly and we will figure things out or in other words: talking will hurt town. Damn, we've played five minutes and Sorian is in full shenanigans mode. What are you talking about? Question skip! But gafia told me I cant pressure people without a vote D: Honestly though I'm a little confused, can we kill Sorian yet? Question skip!
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 5:51:52 GMT -8
hi
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Post by Splinter on Mar 12, 2016 5:52:28 GMT -8
Hey you
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 12, 2016 5:53:57 GMT -8
brb cooking class
Also why is my name Kira McKirason, Kark? That's fucked up.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 12, 2016 6:11:42 GMT -8
God dammit... I'm dumb. Just realised something about the role pm. Everyone should look at it again, details are hidden in the context.
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