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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 7:03:20 GMT -8
I mentioned Ty4on originally and then backtracked and said Coppa. I was skeptical of a second gossip chat from the get go so I had always meant to backpedal once or twice just to make it confusing of who I had in here. Mazre is well aware now that I think he might be scum so no, no one questioned me when I didn't reveal a name for today.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 7:09:38 GMT -8
As for Coppa, I still town read him. Whereas I started to focus in on specific people one day 2, he still made sure to follow up on everyone that he possibly could. A good scum could be doing that as well but I'm reading town from it and that's not taking into account his whole win condition discussion from day 1 which basically clears him in my eyes at this point.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 7:54:25 GMT -8
I didn't ever see him mentioning squid D2 (and barely in D1) which rang some warning bells in me. He also added to the doubt towards Trigger and Boo on D1. Soft reads with assumptions, I know, but just a bit worrying. He fooled everyone in MGS.
IF Mazre and Coppa are scum then Mazre knows you're lying about Coppa and might bring him up. That could cause a backlash, but I think I'll claim if it gets too bad (I'll be busy the next 20-24 hours though) because that probably means Mazre also knows I'm the one here.
Regarding the kill target for tonight, I don't think it'd be anyone in these chats (perhaps me because I'm "not here", that would make me think Mazre and Coppa don't know each other) if Mazre is scum because that would immediately make him suspicious.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 8:06:41 GMT -8
I would love if Mazre brought up that Coppa isn't over here, that would be the easiest double scum lynch ever.
As for Coppa and Squidy, yes, I did just do a quick search and anytime Coppa mentioned Squidy in a post, he was mostly agreeable towards him, with more interaction day 1 than day 2.
That being said though, I don't even know what Squidy is doing and it seems others don't either. He just straight up disappeared for the last half of day 2, falling off the map on the 24th and he was still just giving Razmos problems. I guess I could see that it is odd that Coppa didn't try to get activity from Squidy but on the flip side, I don't know if I would have, personally, bothered getting Squidy to talk when he has been so checked out.
If TL21 actually delivered on the double lynch, I think this day phase would be the perfect time to push Squidy to the brink. Seeing Squidy's flip could give us information on Razmos and Coppa.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:07:22 GMT -8
Last read: The end of D2 made me town read Karu. He is reacting naturally to the events and seems curious. Ask of his posts have a curious tone which I think would be hard to fake as a new scum player. Contrast that to Mazre who made a single post saying last minute plays are bad which A. Sounds pro town, B. Lowers morale and C. Doesn't help town in the slightest there and then.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:11:38 GMT -8
If TL21 actually delivered on the double lynch, I think this day phase would be the perfect time to push Squidy to the brink. Seeing Squidy's flip could give us information on Razmos and Coppa. And if he is town we'd probably have to remotely uninstall fallout to get his reads. I'm leaning town on Razmos for now, but there's not much to work with. He could also be replaced seeing as he had some time issues D2.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 8:11:27 GMT -8
What are your thoughts on Pop? He tipped himself higher on the vote count to potentially save a doctor. It was a ballsy play if that came from scum but I think it was also obvious that people would ditch both him and Setre if there was enough time (which there was). I'm still not sure what to make of it. I want to say ordinary town but we will see.
Also, I never mentioned it, but if Setre is telling the truth, I hope he gets one self-heal since the flavor is that the angels just guard whoever he chooses, so flavor-wise, he could have the angel's guard his house. I think they will attempt Setre tonight but it'll be great if they lose their kill to a self-guard.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:14:07 GMT -8
Oh so you never mentioned Ty4on? And nothing from them wondering why you haven't given them the other name? Did I mention? Oh yeah I did. I think Flush will die... or maybe Coppa since he is known to be in this chat. Either way I think they will get someone who is helpful to town but is not likely to be protected. As a heads up this thread locks half an hour before day start (so people can get their PMs without reporting them in here like my haiku spell) so get your last thoughts on if you have any!
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 8:16:17 GMT -8
God, I hope I don't have to haiku, I'm too tired for that today D:
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:19:29 GMT -8
What are your thoughts on Pop? He tipped himself higher on the vote count to potentially save a doctor. It was a ballsy play if that came from scum but I think it was also obvious that people would ditch both him and Setre if there was enough time (which there was). I'm still not sure what to make of it. I want to say ordinary town but we will see. Also, I never mentioned it, but if Setre is telling the truth, I hope he gets one self-heal since the flavor is that the angels just guard whoever he chooses, so flavor-wise, he could have the angel's guard his house. I think they will attempt Setre tonight but it'll be great if they lose their kill to a self-guard. Town for Pop. It was gutsy and he seems to play like he isn't trying to please anyone. He has also been reactive when posting like he isn't afraid of his ideas. I feel a gambit like that would have had to have been planned in advance like Czar's in Danganronpa.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:20:41 GMT -8
God, I hope I don't have to haiku, I'm too tired for that today D: I know. The worst was when I had to pad out a short response. Especially at the end of D2 where I wanted to be reactive -_-
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 8:21:04 GMT -8
By the way, it sounds like you think I shouldn't role claim right away? Let the day progress a bit and see what happens?
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 30, 2015 8:28:30 GMT -8
We need to see who dies and react to that first.
Also, didn't realize there was a 4th page until now.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:43:19 GMT -8
By the way, it sounds like you think I shouldn't role claim right away? Let the day progress a bit and see what happens? Yeah, I so. Could maybe be a bad idea if people start getting very suspicious, but we'll see. Again I'll probably be busy for the next 20 hours. Also, didn't realize there was a 4th page until now. Heh... (Totally unrelated, but the lack of a page selection at the very bottom really bothered me when I tried catching up with MGS. That in addition to no post counts. It's quite useful seeing -97 post and knowing that the next page is just around the corner.)
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 8:43:51 GMT -8
I'll try to check in at day start if I survive.
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 30, 2015 8:49:05 GMT -8
I have page selection at the bottom...
Either way, we should at least beat Mazre out the gate with any info.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 8:53:28 GMT -8
I have page selection at the bottom... Either way, we should at least beat Mazre out the gate with any info. I don't think Mazre is going to role claim at all unless I do something first, that's just a hunch though. If he does try to beat me out of the gate, I would find that more suspicious than anything.
As a complete aside, I was looking back through the Rico thread and Mazre has said multiple times that he finds Squidy suspicious, something to keep in mind if we get a Mazre or Squidy flip.
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 30, 2015 9:24:16 GMT -8
If you are alive, people are going to want something from you pretty soon. So while the night's events are going to be a discussion topic, so will your claim and TL21xx's night action. It should be done pretty early now that I think about it. People are going to be asking about it and also hounding TL too.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:23:56 GMT -8
Huh. He has been weirdly quiet in the main thread about him. Only mentioned him once in D2 as a tangent to whom Boo had called out.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 9:27:15 GMT -8
Squidy was on his town list day 1, enough so that he said he might invite him to the chat. Then when I asked about him on day 2, he said that squidy has been acting erratic and he is not reading him town anymore.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 9:27:50 GMT -8
Night 1 and night 2 there instead of days, you know what I mean.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:29:49 GMT -8
Ah, of course. I remember discussing our disagreement with Mazre about Squidy on N1. Makes sense after D2. I'd push Coppa a bit on this.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 9:34:28 GMT -8
I like being hilarious and since Retro hasn't done it yet:
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:35:01 GMT -8
I guess this means no haiku curse /metagaming
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 9:36:55 GMT -8
Other chat still isn't locked either /metagaming Lazy Retro
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 30, 2015 9:39:15 GMT -8
Anything else to add?
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:39:24 GMT -8
Nah, obvious proof that AB is an ordinary or role who doesn't get a PM before day start.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:50:32 GMT -8
Hmm. Is it just me or have most people ignore Stanley's inactivity? Him and Seath need to speak out more.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 30, 2015 9:52:38 GMT -8
We have a few people who are way more inactive than I'd like. Stanley has been using RL as an excuse as has Razmos, we'll see how that is going forward. Seath has been around-ish. He's low priority for me at the moment because it's hard for me to think he is scum after he caused a scene with himself on day 1.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 30, 2015 9:54:11 GMT -8
We have a few people who are way more inactive than I'd like. Stanley has been using RL as an excuse as has Razmos, we'll see how that is going forward. Seath has been around-ish. He's low priority for me at the moment because it's hard for me to think he is scum after he caused a scene with himself on day 1. Yeah, we should maybe look at who used Seath as a scapegoat.
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