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Post by Sorian on Nov 23, 2015 7:42:14 GMT -8
And remember, ignore the Jerry's Tacos/Big Rico's thing!
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Post by Sorian on Nov 23, 2015 7:49:24 GMT -8
Oh, just as a side note, my intention is to go after Mazre during day 3. If I should die right now though, please pass on to the thread that I want Mazre dead. He made a bad role claim that I don't quite believe, he played bullshit with our win condition, and I'm still on the fence about us having two town-aligned gossips. It made sense in AC for them to have 3 town gossips because they had the limitation that they could only invite their neighbors so it took longer for the gossip chats to actually connect. As we can see in this game, it was possible for two gossip chats to become connected night 1, that seems too OP for town and I think the best way to balance that is that one of the gossip chats is scum-led.
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Post by Retro on Nov 23, 2015 9:03:37 GMT -8
Thread will be locked for the day at 10:30 Mountain. (27 minutes from now.)
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Post by Sorian on Nov 23, 2015 9:06:48 GMT -8
Speak now or forever hold your peace!
Remember, dying wish, pass along that I want Mazre lynched for the reasons above!
But if I'm still alive, I'll handle things.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 23, 2015 9:28:51 GMT -8
Shit, I didn't see the second page until now.
I guess I kinda agree with you on Razmos. There just isn't much read from him for me.
Unmasked Ferret is definitely keeping some stuff secret, but it's hard to say for what purpose. His actions don't seem to favor town much and as you said he kinda slipped into the darkness.
I need to read up Pop-O-Matic more, but I can't really place him anywhere.
Karu has been surprisingly silent. I almost forgot about him. AbsolutBro had some RL issues, but I really want him to post some more of his opinions. He can be a dangerous scum. I need to prod TL21xx, he flew under my radar as well. Possibly because of his inactivity in DR where he was modkilled. Fireblend asked for why I voted Mike at the end of D1, but didn't post after I replied. Seath seemed more reasonable in Archer. Maybe he's an ordinary thinking he can't get anything done either way. Royal seems mostly solid.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 23, 2015 9:29:44 GMT -8
Squidyj didn't really interact very directly with anyone. I read up D1 in archer and he seemed to be in an active conversation with Haly (scum) for a long time.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 23, 2015 9:29:42 GMT -8
TL21xx is going to be the main talking point today. I can tell already. He promised something yesterday, we need to figure out what that was today.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 23, 2015 9:29:58 GMT -8
Yeah
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Post by Retro on Nov 23, 2015 9:31:17 GMT -8
Thread is now unlocked.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:05:46 GMT -8
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Welcome UltraJay. Please read through the thread for my role, Ty4on's role claim, and what has been going in in this gossip chat and the other one in the game. I'm going to go post to Mazre, need to get in there early, brb.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:09:52 GMT -8
Mazre invited AbsolutBro by the way. Couple questions, Ty4on, I assume you are free to psot normal in here? No haiku stuff? Were you forthcoming with everything in the main thread in regards to this haiku stuff or did you leave any parts out?
Also, I don't have time to look through the thread but what is Mike talking about in his last post of the day?
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 10:14:29 GMT -8
Haikus here as well Would have been really funny But too frustrating Here's a random draft. This is quite old, but I just used parts of it in my replies to Mazre:
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 10:17:04 GMT -8
Mazre invited AbsolutBro by the way. Couple questions, Ty4on, I assume you are free to psot normal in here? No haiku stuff? Were you forthcoming with everything in the main thread in regards to this haiku stuff or did you leave any parts out? Also, I don't have time to look through the thread but what is Mike talking about in his last post of the day? Nothing was left out. Role block or vote block (so vote block for me). I only left out that it would deactivate at night. I thought it was of importance because if it is scum they might suspect that I have an ability (probably like you thinking my scientist comment was a breadcrumb).
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:25:52 GMT -8
I'm wondering if I can draw that haiku power tomorrow and what it would mean. I basically breadcrumbed that I have information to deliver and that I will deliver it if I am alive but someone else will deliver it if I am dead. I bet a lot of people think that someone else can ONLY deliver it if I am dead, wonder if scum will take that bait or not (if haiku is them, I'm still not convinced it is).
So Mazre answered about how you would expect. He is saying he gave me the incorrect win condition on purpose and he distrusts me because I did nothing to argue back against the wrong win condition. He's also mad that no one phrase exchanged with him so he doubly doesn't trust me but he admits that either I'm lying or we are both victims of our attempts to verify each other. I responded back with why i was agreeable (because I didn't want scum to kill me if Mazre really was scum and I was calling him out on it) and am waiting for his next reply. I can't make this choice in a bubble though, I need opinions. What sticks out the most is still the odd name he gave me for his role.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 11:21:19 GMT -8
Just other things, what do you all make of the Setre doctor claim? If it's true I'm hoping they take the bait and fall to a watcher.
Who's even looking like scum now to you all? I feel like my town list is getting too big and scum is non-existant.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 11:43:39 GMT -8
Just other things, what do you all make of the Setre doctor claim? If it's true I'm hoping they take the bait and fall to a watcher. Who's even looking like scum now to you all? I feel like my town list is getting too big and scum is non-existant. I honestly think it's possible we have no (ordinary) doctor and Old Woman Josie is a sample role for scum. It is a very strong sample PM for them though. This bugs me. Why D4 and not 3 or 5? Just a heads up UltraJay, I start up with an idea strongly leaning one way (like Setre being scum) and then slowly refines it. I may have a completely different view after I've looked back at Setre's posts.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 11:46:32 GMT -8
I should clarify that I didn't leave my vote on Setre because I thought he should be lynched. It just wouldn't have made any difference to move it.
Had my vote been crucial I would have moved it to Trigger to save Setre. I'm just not 100% sold on his role claim.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 11:50:51 GMT -8
I think he said D4 because I specifically said that D3 was going to be a wash if I role claim. That's how I read it at least. The post as a whole bugged me though because it sounded like he cared about himself more than anything but that matches with how a doctor should feel. That's one of the most important roles for town.
Man, giving scum a fake doctor claim would be next level scum team advantage, I don't know if I could handle that lol
It's still hard for me to imagine that we have no doctor or bodyguard at all.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 12:15:16 GMT -8
Could also just have given them Old Woman Josie.
I mean angels aren't real and while doctor makes sense for Old Woman Josie it's not the only thing that makes sense for her. She could be a cop or an actual angel could be the doctor (if we have any).
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 13:16:34 GMT -8
It's more that I can't think of anyone else who would be the doctor. That's why the claim is so strong to me. Also, I'll be on mobile for the next 8-10 hours so I may be short or just not reply at all for a bit.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 13:48:17 GMT -8
Nah, probably just me struggling to cope with Occam's razor.
Unmasked Ferret? What did you think of his replies? I know my theory was full of holes, but 40 minutes after Boo's death he had the knowledge of someone who had studied Boo for much longer. He was one of the (if not the) first to out right say "his reads didn't matter" and "hey why are Sorian and Coppa still alive?". He also seems like the type who'd go for a gambit like that, kill the guy attacking you because town would know it was WIFOM. I left this out of my town read, but when scum (presumably) asked Retro about the win condition in Darklighter's PM they also notice Boo's edited post. What got my attention there is how Ferret presumes it is common knowledge.
Don't worry about being inactive, 11pm here so I won't be active much longer. I'm curious why you picked UltraJay. He was on the list, but I had the feeling you'd go for Coppa instead.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 14:20:29 GMT -8
I'll type up more when I get home tonight about Ferret when I have a computer to work from.
As for why I chose Ultra. I'm pretty much 100% sure that Coppa and Ultra or town but the lie to Mazre is that Coppa is over here so I decided to do Ultra first. If I still have the opportunity tomorrow, I'm thinking Coppa next though I also expect Coppa to bite it early so we'll see how I'm feeling in that regard.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 17:30:17 GMT -8
Am I the only one wondering why Mazre chose AB of all people? He doesn't look terribly scummy, but he has made just 24 posts and nothing has screamed town to me. He very well could be, I just thought it was a strange choice.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 18:14:44 GMT -8
No, I 100% agree. I was going to get to it because I thought it was odd too. I threw the question out to him so I'll see if he answers.
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 27, 2015 18:32:07 GMT -8
Episode 62 9m 45s
Listen to it. On mobile so I can't make a timestamp.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 19:16:41 GMT -8
Still not even what he said Nah, I do get the sentiment but this still seems like it's the wrong power for that character don't you think? Investigator, watcher, tracker, she could have easily been any of those three things and it's no questions asked but gossip? Still sounds weird to me.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 22:01:16 GMT -8
UltraJay! Please come join us D: I don't know where you are in the world but I think you are awake and I just want to know you have access!
So as for your concerns on Ferret, well, to be honest, yeah, I'm about middle of the road on him. I don't think it was weird that he had so many responses lined up for Boo already. Boo edited in that post about an hour and a half after time. According to Ferret, he didn't have access to the thread around the time the day ended (which seems to line up) and he caught up with the thread later that day. He would have seen the edited in psot and it was a mega post about himself so I don't see anything wrong with him spending some free moments reading up on Boo over the weekend.
There was a big tone shift from Ferret day 1 to Ferret day 2 and we all saw it. The issue is did he shift tone because he is town and saw that we were getting distracted by him only speaking when spoken too (basically) or did a scum team kick him into shape during night 1 and into early day 2? I honestly don't know. He feels town now that he is contributing and asking questions and they do seem to be real questions and not just soft balls. He appears to be trying to solve the mystery and you don't usually do that when you are scum.
That being said, I'm not going to defend him from a lynch but I don't think I'm, personally, going to be leading one yet.
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 28, 2015 2:45:12 GMT -8
I had a full day at work after staying up really late for the deadline. I was worried I needed to change my vote at the last minute but it turned out not to be that important.
Wow... I really wasn't expecting this. Now I'm going to be busy on nights too!? Xenoblade X comes out around Night 3!
Anyways, I'm kinda honored to be in your trusted list. Enough to be invited here as well. From your first posts it sounds like you were first expecting some power roles to join but I'm just an ordinary. I guess you could call my role is over-excited newbie. As you can see everyone basically said I was too agreeable so I took that to heart for day 2.
I've read through the thread and caught up, so pretty much we are waiting to see what goes down on Day 3 and if we need to take down Mazre. One thing I'm interested in is that you are mentioning Mazre's replies to you but what about what's happening now in the Rico's chat? Bro should be there now so what is his reaction? Do you think he is a town invited to brainwash or a scum to be given some credibility? Other than that what else are they talking about in that chat?
Do we think that scum will go for Sorian or Setre? They could also not risk losing a night kill and go after someone who is most likely not protected and watched tonight.
Mazre also didn't seem to mention the gossip chats during Day 2, what is that about? Unless I missed it...
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Post by Ty4on on Nov 28, 2015 5:23:00 GMT -8
Mazre also didn't seem to mention the gossip chats during Day 2, what is that about? Unless I missed it... Mazre did breadcrumb about the chat. Post 891: Evening all, gonna try catch up on the thread as I deal with the aftermath of an ill-advised lunch at Jerry's Tacos.
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Post by ultrajay on Nov 28, 2015 5:47:10 GMT -8
Oh yeah. Fuck I thought that was a real place. I know how I feel after I go eat at BURP here in Australia.
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