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Post by crimsonfist on Apr 4, 2016 16:23:58 GMT -8
Crimson, I'm not sure I really know you. I kind of know Terrabyte. We'll need to come to some sort of agreement here. I will vote Ally, but I want to interact with you two a bit more before doing so. Crimson's not a bad guy, and to be honest there is no reason to not vote Ally at this stage of the game, it just more beneficial to all of us at this point in time. Very trusting. From my point of view, over 50% of players in this game are not town, and since I'm against two of you, there's a decent chance that at least one of you doesn't have our best interests at heart. So why should I trust that neither of you will betray me? Especially when you both have the cover of being paired. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Apr 4, 2016 16:27:57 GMT -8
Right now I intend to do the same thing. Easy then, I don't really care what team either of you are on. It's 9 points to get to escape and a group ally right now let's us all walk calmly and quietly up to 5 points, much better than 3 and I don't need to debate if I'm letting a serial killer or worse back out into the world yet. Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game. Then what? We all pick ally and we're in the same scenario next round, with no more voting data to go off than we have right now. |
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 16:29:43 GMT -8
That last bit should read "Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game like Scrafty." I don't need to escape to win. I'm perfectly content with sitting at 3 points if it means stonewalling some scumbag who's willing to throw someone else under the bus to escape. 3 people have to escape, you're doing your team a disservice if you think sitting there getting +0s each round will help anyone. |
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 16:32:12 GMT -8
Easy then, I don't really care what team either of you are on. It's 9 points to get to escape and a group ally right now let's us all walk calmly and quietly up to 5 points, much better than 3 and I don't need to debate if I'm letting a serial killer or worse back out into the world yet. Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game. Then what? We all pick ally and we're in the same scenario next round, with no more voting data to go off than we have right now. Then we do it again and get to 7 points. I say that because you know what? There is no way in hell all 8 of you are going to vote ally twice in a row. I'm presenting the logical step right now, I'll trust Karu and Retro to oblige because they are both logical thinkers (which is lucky that we all got lumped together for the first go). If, or should I say when, a betrayal happens, then we take it from there. |
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 16:34:12 GMT -8
Crimson's not a bad guy, and to be honest there is no reason to not vote Ally at this stage of the game, it just more beneficial to all of us at this point in time. Very trusting. From my point of view, over 50% of players in this game are not town, and since I'm against two of you, there's a decent chance that at least one of you doesn't have our best interests at heart. So why should I trust that neither of you will betray me? Especially when you both have the cover of being paired. You can trust or not, but I'm going to do what I say I'm going to do. I think that's the best move for day 1. I don't want to come off as suspicious and not have anyone trust me right off the bat. That's about as bad if not worse as losing 2 points, because you'll probably be stuck wherever you are for the rest of the game. Granted, you could slow the scum down, but there are 3 scum and 2 neutrals. They can stonewall town just as easily if town isn't even playing for itself. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 16:38:18 GMT -8
I don't need to escape to win. I'm perfectly content with sitting at 3 points if it means stonewalling some scumbag who's willing to throw someone else under the bus to escape. 3 people have to escape, you're doing your team a disservice if you think sitting there getting +0s each round will help anyone. I'm of more use to my team at 3 points than you are to yours at 1. Having 1 point is the worst position you can be in, as it forces you to either put blind faith in people to not kill you or betray to save your own hide, which only creates more suspicion. I know what I'm doing. |
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Apr 4, 2016 16:49:55 GMT -8
Crimson's not a bad guy, and to be honest there is no reason to not vote Ally at this stage of the game, it just more beneficial to all of us at this point in time. Very trusting. From my point of view, over 50% of players in this game are not town, and since I'm against two of you, there's a decent chance that at least one of you doesn't have our best interests at heart. So why should I trust that neither of you will betray me? Especially when you both have the cover of being paired. I'm trusting because you're looking at the numbers wrong. It's not 5 out 9 are not town, it's 6 out of 9 aren't scum. It is more likely that all three of us can potentially win together then it is for us to lose. Now it's not that much of a difference, but it's enough for me to give the benefit of the doubt on day one. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 19:50:51 GMT -8
We're a quiet bunch now, aren't we? Rather hard to form an opinion on folks who aren't adding much to the discussion.
Anyway, just keep this in mind: if you choose to betray as a single party, it will likely create a feedback loop of betrayal since no one will be willing to trust you afterwards.
However, if you choose to betray as part of a pair, it's very easy to simply pin it on the other individual to forever call their integrity into question. In other words, it pays to be more suspicious of your partner than your opposition.
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 20:05:45 GMT -8
We're a quiet bunch now, aren't we? Rather hard to form an opinion on folks who aren't adding much to the discussion. Anyway, just keep this in mind: if you choose to betray as a single party, it will likely create a feedback loop of betrayal since no one will be willing to trust you afterwards. However, if you choose to betray as part of a pair, it's very easy to simply pin it on the other individual to forever call their integrity into question. In other words, it pays to be more suspicious of your partner than your opposition. I think the biggest discussion points can't really come until after the first decision phase. As to the rest of this, I agree and that's why it really just behooves everyone to ally right now. If you are in a pair and betray, that still throws suspicion on both you and your partner, there isn't going to be a clear cut way to clear yourself while pointing at your partner. The good will generated from an ally 3-way is worth it's weight in gold. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 20:08:15 GMT -8
We're a quiet bunch now, aren't we? Rather hard to form an opinion on folks who aren't adding much to the discussion. Anyway, just keep this in mind: if you choose to betray as a single party, it will likely create a feedback loop of betrayal since no one will be willing to trust you afterwards. However, if you choose to betray as part of a pair, it's very easy to simply pin it on the other individual to forever call their integrity into question. In other words, it pays to be more suspicious of your partner than your opposition. I think the biggest discussion points can't really come until after the first decision phase. As to the rest of this, I agree and that's why it really just behooves everyone to ally right now. If you are in a pair and betray, that still throws suspicion on both you and your partner, there isn't going to be a clear cut way to clear yourself while pointing at your partner. The good will generated from an ally 3-way is worth it's weight in gold. Accountability is the most valuable resource we can have at this avenue. In a sense it's actually better for an individual to betray rather than one half of a pair because at least they'll have submitted their action knowing full well what the consequences will be rather than being able to hide behind someone else. |
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Post by Retro on Apr 4, 2016 21:52:23 GMT -8
Hmmm... It's going to be a double edged sword, I think. On the one hand, allying is the best option for everyone on this first day. On the other hand, what will we learn from that?
I feel like this is WIFOM, the home game, to be honest.
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Post by Retro on Apr 4, 2016 21:56:59 GMT -8
To be clear, I will still be allying, just thinking out loud.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 5:44:32 GMT -8
BEtter late than never eh? i am here and ready to go  Gl and hf everyone |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 5, 2016 8:12:18 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone.
nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting.
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Post by Sorian on Apr 5, 2016 8:17:34 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. I would talk more but at this stage, I think all that is important is everyone saying what they will do and seeing if they do it or not. That being said, nin hasn't actually said anything except for a hello. |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 8:29:34 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. No one is trusting, since this will be a mind game i dont know what to say at the moment, but lets wait a bit since the game did not officially start yet. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 5, 2016 8:31:57 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. No one is trusting, since this will be a mind game i dont know what to say at the moment, but lets wait a bit since the game did not officially start yet. Uh, the first discussion phase started almost a day ago. It's important that you say something at least so we can compare your later behaviour to your stated intentions. |
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Post by RobotNinjaHornets on Apr 5, 2016 8:33:03 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. I'm at work atm so can't say too much, but should be heading home fairly soon and will be around for the rest of the day |
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Post by Retro on Apr 5, 2016 9:27:24 GMT -8
Scrafty's working hard to keep the conversation going, so that's pretty pro-town.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 5, 2016 9:47:03 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. I'm at work atm so can't say too much, but should be heading home fairly soon and will be around for the rest of the day The day closes in 3 hours tho lol |
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Post by Sorian on Apr 5, 2016 9:50:49 GMT -8
If anyone really wants a read from me, all I have to say is this:
"nin1000 & RobotNinjaHornets
versus
ScraftyDevil"
is just a generally sketchy tripod. Scrfaty gets lumped with that by circumstance because the main issue is coming from the side opposite her but the communication break down is apparent.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 9:57:30 GMT -8
If anyone really wants a read from me, all I have to say is this: "nin1000 & RobotNinjaHornets versus ScraftyDevil" is just a generally sketchy tripod. Scrfaty gets lumped with that by circumstance because the main issue is coming from the side opposite her but the communication break down is apparent. Sorry , i missed that it already started. i am here if you need to talk. Since it is Me and RNH against Scrafty. |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 9:58:05 GMT -8
No one is trusting, since this will be a mind game i dont know what to say at the moment, but lets wait a bit since the game did not officially start yet. Uh, the first discussion phase started almost a day ago. It's important that you say something at least so we can compare your later behaviour to your stated intentions. My intentions are pretty simple. Survive |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 9:58:54 GMT -8
4 hours til judgment and this place is quiet as the crypt. That's not a good look for anyone. nin, RNH, give me some thoughts, opinions, strategies. Anything that convinces me you might be worth trusting. I'm at work atm so can't say too much, but should be heading home fairly soon and will be around for the rest of the day What ?! I think you are going to be too late , i think you should at least try to make a comment now that you are on mobile |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 9:59:30 GMT -8
Scrafty's working hard to keep the conversation going, so that's pretty pro-town. You are not even commenting the right way. I dont know what to make out of it. For now you are a null read |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 10:00:05 GMT -8
To be clear, I will still be allying, just thinking out loud. Can you say with Whom you are allying ? at least give us a hint |
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Post by Sorian on Apr 5, 2016 10:02:03 GMT -8
To be clear, I will still be allying, just thinking out loud. Can you say with Whom you are allying ? at least give us a hint He's saying he will be choosing the "Ally" option in his first decision:
"Kalor & Sorian
versus
Retro"
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 10:06:26 GMT -8
Can you say with Whom you are allying ? at least give us a hint He's saying he will be choosing the "Ally" option in his first decision:
"Kalor & Sorian
versus
Retro"
This will be interesting to say the least. |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 5, 2016 10:07:08 GMT -8
Can you say with Whom you are allying ? at least give us a hint He's saying he will be choosing the "Ally" option in his first decision:
"Kalor & Sorian
versus
Retro"
What about you Sorian.Areyou going to ally aswell ? |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 5, 2016 10:09:15 GMT -8
He's already announced his intention to.
Hm, it kinda feels like you're chattering to feign the illusion of inquisitiveness right now...
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Gl and hf everyone