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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 13:23:47 GMT -8
Musical ThemePrisoner’s Dilemma Mafia - No Carrot for the Virtuous9 Players Open Setup Minigame (not mafia-based) Welcome to the game of Prisoner’s Dilemma. You have been locked inside a mysterious warehouse deep underground with eight other unsuspecting people. Why are you here, exactly? You cannot remember. But one thing's for sure… you have to escape this horrible facility, before dying of starvation.
Luckily, or unluckily, there is a one way out. Each and every one of the players has a bracelet on them.
Everyone starts with three points. You can obtain or lose points based on your performance in a very peculiar game…
If you reach 9 points, you can escape… If you fall down to 0, you die…
Just remember, not everyone might not be ready to cooperate with you.RULESBasic Premise:Prisoner’s Dilemma - Mafia is based on the Ambidex-game introduced in the video-game “Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward”. This game only uses the game mechanics, and does not spoil the source material at all, so you don’t need to know the game at all, nor need to fear being spoiled. The game is a point-based game. All players will begin with 3 points. These points can be either added or subtracted by playing a game. If player obtains 9 points, he will get an “Escapee” status. If player hits 0 points, they will die, and will be removed from the game permanently. Prisoner’s Dilemma Game - Basic Rules:The points will be added and subtracted by playing the Prisoner’s Dilemma game. The game is done in rounds. In each round, there are three “Matches” played out. Each match has two people against one person. The match itself is very simple. Both sides of a single match will have a choice of choosing one of the two options, “ALLY” or “BETRAY”  If you are on the side with just one player, you will make decision alone. However, if you are on the side with two players, you both have to make a decision. If either of you decides to “BETRAY”, the two of you will default into Betraying. However, it will be not revealed which one of you pressed betray, or if both of you did. Once the round is played, the results will be shown. If both sides choose to ALLY, they both will obtain two points. However, if one side betrays, while other allies, they betraying side will obtain 3 points, and the allying side loses two. If both sides betray, neither side wins or loses points. In short: Once the results are given, the players will be shuffled again into new setup for the next round of Prisoner’s Dilemma Game. Talk & Decision PhaseEach round of the game is divided into a Talk and Decision phase. During the talk phase, all players are free to discuss with one another about anything they want, including tactics. (Such as should they ally or betray during the next round of the game.) This phase is closest to the normal “Day phase”, except that there will be no voting, and the phase will be very short. The second phase is the Decision Phase. During this phase, the players will send the Game Mod a PM, letting him know if they decide to ALLY or BETRAY during this round of the Prisoner’s Dilemma. If no decision is sent, that player will be defaulted into Allying. There will be no discussion in the game thread during this phase, and so is closest to the normal “Night phases”. After decision phase is over, the results of the round of the Prisoners Dilemma are shown, together with what each side of each match picked, and the current point-counts of the game. How the game will end:As noted before, you can escape the game by reaching 9 points. However, this won’t be as simple as it sounds. If you reach 9 points, you will obtain “Escapee” status. However, you will still stay in the game, and continue playing in the rounds. The game will only end after three or more players obtain 9 points. Please note that you cannot obtain more than 9 points. Also, once you have an Escapee status, if your Prisoner’s Dilemma round ends with BETRAY-BETRAY result, you will lose one point, and your Escapee status with it. The players during the game are divided into different groups, Town, Mafia and Neutral. All of these groups have different win conditions. Town wins, if no members of mafia is included in the list of escapees, when the game ends. Mafia wins, if even one member of mafia is included in the list of escapees when the game ends. Neutrals just want to get to the list of escapees, while keeping the other neutral out of the escapees. ROLESThis is an open setup, so all of the roles are a known quantity. 4 members of Town - They are just that - normal town. They know only their own role, and not anyone else's. Their objective is to get only members of town or neutrals into the list of escapees. If they succeed, they all win. (They will also win even if there are neutrals in the list of escapees.) 3 Members of Mafia - They know each other's identities, and have a private chat to discuss on until the first decision phase begins, aftwe which the scum thread is locked permanently. Their win condition is to get at least one member into the list of 3 escapees. If even one is in, they will win, while town loses. Other than that, they don’t have any special powers. 2 Neutral Players - They don’t care which side wins, town or scum. They know each other’s identity. The win condition of the neutrals is the same: to make it to the list of 3 escapees, while making sure that the other neutral doesn’t make it in. The one neutral who makes it in wins, while the one who doesn’t, loses. If they both make it in, they both lose, same with if neither makes it. Them getting, or not getting into the list of escapees, won’t interfere with the town or scum win conditions.
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 13:47:14 GMT -8
The rules have been revised a little on the description of the scum.
1. ScraftyDevil 2. LaunchpadMcQ 3. Sorian 4. CrimsonFist 5. Retro 6. Kalor 7. Terrabyte 8. RobotNinjaHornets 9. nin1000
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 14:10:08 GMT -8
All Role PM's are out, which means the game will start soon. Not assuming there is need to check everyone in, since sign ups didn't start too long ago.
Stay tuned soon. You can post?
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 14:11:46 GMT -8
Posting just so I get updates for when this thread updates.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 14:14:17 GMT -8
Let's do this. I'm making it outta here alive, dammit.
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Post by Kalor on Apr 4, 2016 14:23:29 GMT -8
This will be fun. We could always decide not to escape, whats the worst that can happen.
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Post by RobotNinjaHornets on Apr 4, 2016 14:26:28 GMT -8
Bookmarked and good to go
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 14:28:27 GMT -8
TALK PHASE 1“Hello… I am Zero III, your host for this… hehehe… experiment.” “We shall now begin… with the first cycle of this game.” “Oh, right! I need to think some nicknames for you folks!” -- The first matchups for the game are:Launchpad & Terrabyte versus CrimsonFist nin1000 & RobotNinjaHornets versus ScraftyDevil Kalor & Sorian versus Retro At this time, all players have 3 points. 9 Points are required for Escaper status.During the talk phase, players can converse normally, until the time ends. The first Talk Phase will last for 22 hours and 30 minutes. 
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 14:30:00 GMT -8
Kalor, Retro, I'll be voting ally for round one.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 14:32:24 GMT -8
Give me one good reason to trust you bastards. How do I know you won't just hit Betray so snag some extra points offa me?
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Post by RobotNinjaHornets on Apr 4, 2016 14:35:04 GMT -8
nin1000 & RobotNinjaHornets versus ScraftyDevil ... Uh No hard feelings for WWE?
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 14:47:03 GMT -8
So wait, do we have to coordinate votes with our partner? It's been awhile since I played the game
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 14:48:04 GMT -8
So wait, do we have to coordinate votes with our partner? It's been awhile since I played the game You and your partner will decide independently. However, if either of you chooses to betray, you both will end up betraying, and it will be not told, which one of the two decided to betray.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 14:51:33 GMT -8
So wait, do we have to coordinate votes with our partner? It's been awhile since I played the game You and your partner will decide independently. However, if either of you chooses to betray, you both will end up betraying, and it will be not told, which one of the two decided to betray. Oh I see.that's what that meant. Thanks.
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Post by Kalor on Apr 4, 2016 15:19:05 GMT -8
Kalor, Retro, I'll be voting ally for round one. Right now I intend to do the same thing.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 15:27:28 GMT -8
Crimson, I'm not sure I really know you. I kind of know Terrabyte. We'll need to come to some sort of agreement here.
I will vote Ally, but I want to interact with you two a bit more before doing so.
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Post by Retro on Apr 4, 2016 15:28:14 GMT -8
Kalor, Retro, I'll be voting ally for round one. Right now I intend to do the same thing. Likewise.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Apr 4, 2016 15:50:25 GMT -8
Crimson, I'm not sure I really know you. I kind of know Terrabyte. We'll need to come to some sort of agreement here. I will vote Ally, but I want to interact with you two a bit more before doing so. Crimson's not a bad guy, and to be honest there is no reason to not vote Ally at this stage of the game, it just more beneficial to all of us at this point in time.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 15:51:05 GMT -8
That's incredibly naive of you guys, announcing your move like that. Especially the ones who are part of a team; either you're trying to obfuscate your own betrayal or your partner is going to take advantage of your trust.
Just don't come crying to me when you're down 2 points going into the second round.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Apr 4, 2016 15:56:24 GMT -8
That's incredibly naive of you guys, announcing your move like that. Especially the ones who are part of a team; either you're trying to obfuscate your own betrayal or your partner is going to take advantage of your trust. Just don't come crying to me when you're down 2 points going into the second round. Come on Scrafty, have some faith in humanity!
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 15:59:38 GMT -8
That's incredibly naive of you guys, announcing your move like that. Especially the ones who are part of a team; either you're trying to obfuscate your own betrayal or your partner is going to take advantage of your trust. Just don't come crying to me when you're down 2 points going into the second round. Come on Scrafty, have some faith in humanity! My faith will be placed in those with the good graces to shut up and play their cards close to their ample chest. As far as I'm concerned at the moment, the ones who are most suspicious are those who are trying to plant the idea that they're immaculate cooperators in everyone's heads.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 15:59:51 GMT -8
That's incredibly naive of you guys, announcing your move like that. Especially the ones who are part of a team; either you're trying to obfuscate your own betrayal or your partner is going to take advantage of your trust. Just don't come crying to me when you're down 2 points going into the second round. Actually, this is the naive way to think, that you acting untrustworthy will lead you to victory. All these hypotheticals raises people's suspicions of you and leads them to want to betray you before you can betray them. Once people think you're scummy, they won't trust you enough to vote Ally, so you'll never get points. Granted, if you're on a team, it wouldn't be the end of the world, but not knowing what the conditions will be going into phase 2, it's really short-sighted to tell people to be more suspicious. For right now, no one has done anything. Clean slate. I don't think anyone is going to win if they prove they are disloyal on Day 1.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 16:06:08 GMT -8
Better safe than sorry. I'd rather turn up with 0 points gained tomorrow with the knowledge of who I can and can't trust in mind rather than put blind faith into not one but two people. We need to remember that there are five people here who are only in it for themselves, so perhaps the time to join hands and sing kumbaya will come when some folks have been eliminated and we know what ratios we're working with here.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 16:09:54 GMT -8
Better safe than sorry. I'd rather turn up with 0 points gained tomorrow with the knowledge of who I can and can't trust in mind rather than put blind faith into not one but two people. We need to remember that there are five people here who are only in it for themselves, so perhaps the time to join hands and sing kumbaya will come when some folks have been eliminated and we know what ratios we're working with here. So what you're saying is, you're definitely going to betray. OK.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -8
Better safe than sorry. I'd rather turn up with 0 points gained tomorrow with the knowledge of who I can and can't trust in mind rather than put blind faith into not one but two people. We need to remember that there are five people here who are only in it for themselves, so perhaps the time to join hands and sing kumbaya will come when some folks have been eliminated and we know what ratios we're working with here. So what you're saying is, you're definitely going to betray. OK. Speak for yourself. I'll make up my mind based on whether nin and RNH prove themselves to be worthy of my trust before voting time comes.
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Post by Launchpad on Apr 4, 2016 16:13:09 GMT -8
So what you're saying is, you're definitely going to betray. OK. Speak for yourself. I'll make up my mind based on whether nin and RNH prove themselves to be worthy of my trust before voting time comes. How will they prove that? By allying with you while you betray them? lol
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 16:16:30 GMT -8
Speak for yourself. I'll make up my mind based on whether nin and RNH prove themselves to be worthy of my trust before voting time comes. How will they prove that? By allying with you while you betray them? lol I'll base it on the assertions they make today. So far RNH has shown to be understandably hesitant, but before nin speaks up I can't make up my mind. I'm not giving them a free pass just because they say they're going to cooperate though; if one of them chooses betray then they can just blame each other for it and we know nothing more than we did before.
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 16:20:09 GMT -8
Kalor, Retro, I'll be voting ally for round one. Right now I intend to do the same thing. Easy then, I don't really care what team either of you are on. It's 9 points to get to escape and a group ally right now let's us all walk calmly and quietly up to 5 points, much better than 3 and I don't need to debate if I'm letting a serial killer or worse back out into the world yet. Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game.
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Post by Sorian on Apr 4, 2016 16:20:45 GMT -8
That last bit should read
"Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game like Scrafty."
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Apr 4, 2016 16:22:19 GMT -8
That last bit should read "Or you can be distrustful of everyone, abrasive, and sit at 3 for the whole game like Scrafty." I don't need to escape to win. I'm perfectly content with sitting at 3 points if it means stonewalling some scumbag who's willing to throw someone else under the bus to escape.
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