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Post by Ty4on on Mar 19, 2016 6:10:49 GMT -8
Burb. Say for our neutral's role: N1 disruption is successful N2 disruption is successful N3 disruption is successful Do they then exit the game at the start of D4 (when all three chat bombs have been initiated) or start of D5 (when all three chat bombs have finished)?
"You will win, if you are able to successfully Disrupt three pairs during the game!"
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 6:58:35 GMT -8
Sorry man, been pretty run down the last few days. Gonna have a catch up now.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 7:04:42 GMT -8
So with Kark voting us with the claim they found scum on night 5, does that mean he is the scum?
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 7:07:45 GMT -8
Can't help but feel my low activity has made us a target...
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 7:27:04 GMT -8
The problem we have now is that as Kark is seen as so confirmed town anything we say is going to be shot down or seen as reaching.
I've got an odd feeling about Camjo for post 4000. He points out that we never had a vote on a mafia come the end of the day (fair enough) but also singles out the fact that we never voted on the same person. In probably missing something but is that such a scum tell? He's not wrong to say it but I dunno, feels like he is presenting it as evidence against us when it don't really mean much.
Then I start thinking that if Camjo and Kark are both scum (and it was four pairs as Kark suggested all along) then town is fucked anyway.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 7:50:05 GMT -8
If Kark is mafia the delay in sharing could have been as they were formulating a plan to take advantage of LyLo?
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 14:18:11 GMT -8
I'm going to assume that Burb didn't lie in the rules and this isn't some strange split alignment role and your actually scum.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 19, 2016 15:01:29 GMT -8
I'm going to assume that Burb didn't lie in the rules and this isn't some strange split alignment role and your actually scum. No, I'm just trying to make sense of things. I don't have any reason to believe Sophia or you are scum, but it's also really hard to make Kark scum. FWIW Burb points out in the intro post that pairs act as one person and it helps to look at this game as a 15 player game. --------- Kark is weirding me out right now, but I never really had a scum read on him. What are your thoughts on him and Zipped?
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 19, 2016 15:07:08 GMT -8
Same as you've, I've felt they were town ever since that claim real early on. Truth be told I was sorta more willing to entertain we were split alignment (regardless of what the rules said) than Karkhead was scum. Hence I asked who was targeted. Had it been you I may have started considering that (sorry!).
So that only really paints it two ways.
1) Kark is scum and had played a real long con by setting up Blarg day 2.
2) Of the scum left alive they have a way to make players appear scum somehow.
Honestly of the two I'm more inclined to believe that Kark may be scum, especially as he's now claiming to be a cop of sorts?
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 19, 2016 16:03:33 GMT -8
Same as you've, I've felt they were town ever since that claim real early on. Truth be told I was sorta more willing to entertain we were split alignment (regardless of what the rules said) than Karkhead was scum. Hence I asked who was targeted. Had it been you I may have started considering that (sorry!). So that only really paints it two ways. 1) Kark is scum and had played a real long con by setting up Blarg day 2. 2) Of the scum left alive they have a way to make players appear scum somehow. Honestly of the two I'm more inclined to believe that Kark may be scum, especially as he's now claiming to be a cop of sorts? No problem  My issue is how hard it is to make Kark scum. Reading back at when Kark first mentioned the chat bomb batsnacks popped in and asked anyone else had been bombed. We know from his role that he had no idea if it was successful and after his comments at the end of the day where he pretty much outed that he wasn't town it looks like he was confident that he hit chats. Then the next day he failed to chat block and it looks like it's because Flame and Coppa were hit. That's sadly hard to confirm and bat had always been suspicious of the two. It looks like that's what happened though. Roles that forge night reports do exist, but they seem out of place in a game rated 5. To recap Burb classified it as a 5-6 and Crab classified it as a 5:
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 19, 2016 16:24:34 GMT -8
If we have two scum pairs remaining...  And 3 + 4 = 7 What does that make Camjo-Z and TL21xx? Or Kyan/Retroid and Kark/ZippedScratch that I messed up my math again -_- If Camjo-Z and TL21xx are town then both Kark/Zipped and Kyan/Retroid have to be scum unless they're lazy. With 2 scum pairs and 3 townies on us that means we can be turbo'd.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 20, 2016 6:57:20 GMT -8
Fuck it, I think it's possible Kark/Zipped and Kyan/Retroid are indeed scum and are trying to shift the lynch over to Camjo should mine fail.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 20, 2016 11:21:27 GMT -8
Fuck sake lousy mobile internet. Couldn't get in for the end of the day.
Also God Damm Kark and his gambits.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 20, 2016 13:16:42 GMT -8
Kyan and Retroid has to be the last scum pair. My best town read right now is Topo and Panda followed by Kark and Zipped. Ultra Jay is kinda in nothing, but leaning town.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 21, 2016 6:06:58 GMT -8
I forgot to mention it, but just before day end (when I didn't have time to participate) I realized that it didn't make any sense for scum to instantly vote for me like Camjo, they knew very well that we're not on their team. The issue is everyone still alive were doubting Kark's read :/
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 21, 2016 9:26:29 GMT -8
We just gotta hope that there aren't two more scum pairs as the game is basically over otherwise. That's assuming scum succeed in killin today of course.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 21, 2016 9:57:24 GMT -8
I don't think Burb is evil enough to drag a loss this much out if we had two scum pairs remaining 
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 21, 2016 10:00:34 GMT -8
Let's hope!
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 21, 2016 11:49:25 GMT -8
No idea why they are asking about chat numbers, but as its in the OP may as well answer them, we've nothing to hide after all.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 21, 2016 11:54:12 GMT -8
I'm guessing he forgot they were in the OP and thought he could catch scum.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 22, 2016 15:08:29 GMT -8
What your thoughts on this no lynch idea?
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 22, 2016 15:47:51 GMT -8
eh
Seriously. It just feels like dragging out the inevitable. Is UltraJay scum? Well he sure was lucky not to move and I still don't see how the chat bomb makes sense. Is Kark/Zipped scum? There are so many assumptions needed for this I don't want to think about it. Let alone the fact that they bussed two team mates and don't look scummy. The last gambit would have been incredibly stupid for scum for instance.
Kyanrute and Retroid don't have anything and have never looked townie to me. They completely flew under my radar D1 and D2.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 23, 2016 8:58:43 GMT -8
What you mean by struggling to see how the chatbomb makes sense?
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 23, 2016 9:34:20 GMT -8
It's very hard to find a plausible way scum could be chat bombed or fake claim a bomb.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 23, 2016 9:46:38 GMT -8
I kinda wanna fake claim scum.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 23, 2016 9:54:58 GMT -8
I'm gonna be lynched D1 in Batman for this?  If you quote Pop you can see his hidden message.
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Burbeting
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Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 23, 2016 10:30:32 GMT -8
Congrats for you two! Now it's time to retire this boat.
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