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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:52:14 GMT -8
Sorry if the godfather thing wasn't clear.
It's a big assumption (and I should probably stop with that when it's Blarg...), but I figured a scum team with a godfather knows that there is likely an alignment cop and therefore a miller claim is possible.
I guess they probably just got that as a fake claim or decided to be gutsy.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 8:42:50 GMT -8
Kark did mention looking into UltraJay and BooBoo if Blawl flipped scum.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 8:46:51 GMT -8
I have a (gut) town read on El Topo. He genuinely seemed interested in figuring out what was going on.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 15:50:26 GMT -8
I think a Cabinter lynch might happen organically tomorrow unless something big happens.
I am still heavily tunneled into thinking they are scum, but even as I'm trying my best to stay unbiased while reading everyones reaction to the Cabinter lynch I see so many posts where their flip would really help tell the story. I mean take these two:
Boo Boo'n:
kingkitty:
This was as Cabinter was getting some traction.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 26, 2016 16:57:08 GMT -8
Haven't been able to solidify the El Topo read. His back and forth could be scum really wanting that Cabinter vote. For what it's worth this would be a weird response as scum to the possible Cabinter vote: neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196569878&postcount=2624Weird because scum should be stressed and not thinking of silly jokes to post in the game thread. I came across Karu's early response to Blawl's claim (369*, 375 and 378) and the way he was almost oblivious to it seemed too weird for scum. Weirdly one of my strongest town reads. Karu has been really inactive otherwise and I've had a hard time reading him in earlier games. neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195253475&postcount=369Flame attacked Blawl with a vote just as he claimed miller*. It was the first vote on him so risky for scum and no bandwagon, but he didn't look super town to me while doing it. Still, the act is townie in retrospect so I should read it as such for now. neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195251618&postcount=353As a second point, this townie but off feeling I have for Flame and Coppa makes me think they could be a powerful role like doctor, roleblocker or cop. Camjo's response to the Cabinter vote looks really townie to me. His responses to me look open (free, not constrained or filtered) which is the exact opposite I would expect from scum when this is such a crucial moment regardless of Cabinter's alignment and his main message (lynch Blawl) ended up being good for town. This comment especially I had a really hard time imagining a scum coming up with: neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196570985&postcount=2636On the other hand none of the posts I've remember try to be persuasive in any way so he could be using that as a way of saying townie things without steering town much. Still very much a town read for me. |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 26, 2016 18:00:34 GMT -8
Looking at post #1873 again I think I've solidified my town read on Coppa and Flame. It looks bad at first, but I think any scum would be hesitant to start questioning Kark immediately after his claim knowing how bad it would look after the flip.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 26, 2016 18:29:51 GMT -8
Kyanrute and Magnum stand out to me at the moment. Not for anything in specific, but because I can't remember anything they've said. I'll try to give them a thorough read tomorrow.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 28, 2016 5:15:21 GMT -8
I have work and will not be active at the start. I might post some stuff if I have time and if I'm not too tired I'll try to catch up near midnight.
I am starting to see a link between Splinter-Cabot and Kyanrute-Retroid, but don't know how open I will be at the start.
I don't have much, but I found a couple of posts for defence if we get attacked. I dunno how well received it will be, but the early D2 interactions with Sophia and Blarg really don't look like scum-scum to me.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 28, 2016 10:06:58 GMT -8
Lol me
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 28, 2016 16:44:35 GMT -8
Oops, for some reason I thought this started Monday evening. Haven't read anything yet today just saw who died. Wonder if it was targeted or a sleep walking accident. Will have to catch up tomorrow as I gotta be getting to bed now
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 28, 2016 16:57:20 GMT -8
I don't really have a list of scum reads, but Magnum-batsnacks, Retroid-Kyanrute and to a certain extent Topo-Panda were hard to read as town. I didn't find anything particularly townie with Gorlak and Launch, but also didn't make much of an attempt at reading them. I'll try to see if anyone sees the same as me with batsnacks, but my initial objection with him is how he assumed Cabot and Splinter were town in his post. He initially stated that they were from the night chat, so this was before the flip. BTW Burb, tell me if I'm stepping over the line with batsnacks' initial quote of his own chat. What I am adding here is that he personally stated having written it at night which he never directly states after the edit. This one kind of assumes it though: Okay, copy pasting from my notes that were never shared with my partner in that case. What difference does it make? |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 28, 2016 16:59:30 GMT -8
Oops, for some reason I thought this started Monday evening. Haven't read anything yet today just saw who died. Wonder if it was targeted or a sleep walking accident. Will have to catch up tomorrow as I gotta be getting to bed now Don't worry about it. I need some sleep as well  Sleep walking accident, interesting. I haven't thought about it and nobody mentioned it in the game thread from what I've read. |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 28, 2016 17:02:18 GMT -8
I don't really have a list of scum reads, but Magnum-batsnacks, Retroid-Kyanrute and to a certain extent Topo-Panda were hard to read as town. I didn't find anything particularly townie with Gorlak and Launch, but also didn't make much of an attempt at reading them. Adding to that I basically made no read of Time-Flux. |
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 29, 2016 0:39:48 GMT -8
I think it's better to ignore the batsnacks post-thing debacle. It's not really indicative of anything.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 29, 2016 6:45:07 GMT -8
I think it's better to ignore the batsnacks post-thing debacle. It's not really indicative of anything. But I wanna metagame  On an unrelated note I didn't know Ouro liked bears |
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 1, 2016 4:59:05 GMT -8
Oops, for some reason I thought this started Monday evening. Haven't read anything yet today just saw who died. Wonder if it was targeted or a sleep walking accident. Will have to catch up tomorrow as I gotta be getting to bed now Don't worry about it. I need some sleep as well Sleep walking accident, interesting. I haven't thought about it and nobody mentioned it in the game thread from what I've read. I feel like the topic was brushed aside quickly by Flux as well. Their was some questioning as to why Cabot and splinter were targeted and people looking for clues that way, but if they sleepwalked to another boat I can't see that they would have been purposely targeted. Unless the kill can follow them. I swear their was a sleepwalker in the first game crab ran and that some group, serial killer or scum, was frustrated/confused that they were unable to kill him afer multiple attempts, but it was because he sleep walked away. Now I didn't play in that game so I may have incorrect info but if the sleepwalkers work the same in each game then it would be unlikely that Cabot was intentionally target and so looking for links there is pointless. |
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 1, 2016 7:51:22 GMT -8
I think you're thinking of a hider. They select someone to hide at and won't die if scum kills them directly, but will die if they hide at a scum or someone who is killed that night. Hiders choose their target though while sleepwalkers just visit someone at random.
Sleepwalker are usually killed when they themselves are targeted. Like in Danganronpa we had a sleepwalker who walked into the first kill target, but survived because it had no effect on him.
Sleepwalkers are basically power roles that work like any other except they don't get any info. It they walk into a veteran they will like any other role targeting a veteran, but they won't die if they target scum or the night kill target.
Hmm, the fact that we had a sleepwalker makes a veteran role less likely to me. It'd really suck to die like that. I think they chose them because they were active town and unlikely to get protection. A switch is also possible, but I'm not sold on that.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 1, 2016 7:53:00 GMT -8
And you're thinking of Palmer. I think he was getting doctor support, but scum was confident he was an important power role. That seems unlikely in this game because they had a tracker and we know that tracker tracked Kark N1.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 1, 2016 10:02:39 GMT -8
Okay then, cheers for clearing that up.
Looking at how the day has played out since their death I can kinda see why scum may have kill them if they were good at predicting what would happen. Right now. convosation has slowed down in a pretty big way which I feel is partly due to Cabot and Splinter being so active, but also by killing someone who was under suspicion yesterday it almost feels like all the leads we had have now been closed up, putting us back to the kind of flailing about that Day 1 gives and gives us a good chance at a mislynch.
But is that more beneficial than leaving a player alive that town were suspicious of and could get rid of on their own anyway?
Either way I should stop obsessing over Cabot and splinter, feel like in getting a bit one track mind on understanding why they would be killed.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 1, 2016 12:15:57 GMT -8
Either way I should stop obsessing over Cabot and splinter, feel like in getting a bit one track mind on understanding why they would be killed. Heh, I should have stopped that from D1 But yeah, speculating about what killed them isn't terribly useful. There seems to be a push for a Flux lynch. Eh. I don't have a big town read on him, but it feels a bit wasted. I'd rather see some pressure on Gorlak and Launch, but I seem to be the only one interested in them. |
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 1, 2016 12:27:50 GMT -8
I'm probably gonna put a vote on flux as I've said before in the thread that that's what I would have preferred and hence never voted Day 2. I'm not set in stone on it but if I keep not voting I feel it draws attention.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 1, 2016 13:07:46 GMT -8
I'm probably gonna put a vote on flux as I've said before in the thread that that's what I would have preferred and hence never voted Day 2. I'm not set in stone on it but if I keep not voting I feel it draws attention. Vote on those you suspect. Scummy behavior is not having a real opinion. I know it is tough to find a big target to vote for. More often then not I stay off of the main target because I'm not confident in the vote. |
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 2, 2016 14:18:54 GMT -8
The names of players is just not sticking this time round, downside to the pairs set up I guess.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 2, 2016 17:26:42 GMT -8
Kingkitty, hyperactivity
Hyperkitty. Kingkitty is the crazy one while Hyper is only half crazy. They look kind of scummy in this game though.
Karkador, Zippedpinhead
Karkhead, zippkark. Kark is definitively leading here, but Zipped is usually the calculated type. Kark has a record of doing risky stuff and it's no surprise to see him leading against people like Flux. Zipped was in an earlier game called the scummiest town, but it's hard to point out what makes him look scummy.
Timeaisis, Fluxwavez
Timeflux, Fluxaisis. Time is the calm, calculated of the two. Flux can be very emotionally driven and in an earlier game spent most of it tunneling in on a neutral.
Launchpad, Gorlak
I dunno, but they have a similar posting style. Detached, but still kinda arrogant. Gorlak is maybe the thinking one while Launch will go with his gut.
UltraJay, BooBoo'n
JayBoo. Both are relatively inactive, but not quite newbies either. They also make posts that are a bit out there occasionally.
Coppanuva, Flame_AC
Flappa? Both are prodding and kind of light on actual opinions.
Tl21xx, Camjo-Z
TL is a master student I think and almost always low in activity. Camjo is new, but different and snarky. The odd thing here is how different the pair is.
MagnumBoy20xx, batsnacks
Magnum occasionally posts. I don't have much experience with him before. Batsnacks posts kind of like Camjo, but maybe with a less serious tone.
Dusk Soldier, Karu
Dusk has weird ideas? Karu is also not very active and to me often seems inactive.
Kyanrute, Retroid
These are similar in that both are slipping under the radar. Retroid reminds me of a newbie in many ways while Kyan seems to be trying to stand out a little and not quite succeeding.
El Topo, Giant Panda
Giant Topo, Topo Panda. Both to me lookHyperkitty
Topo seems to be going against the flow some times while Panda seems to be on the look for info.
I started with the nicknames of various teams, but it ended up as a pseudo read list...
Linking what is alike and not between the two worked for me. There's also the script Retroid posted (I posted a link of it earlier) which you can use in Chrome or Firefox to add the partner's name to each profile.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 3, 2016 5:32:13 GMT -8
Your beyond helpful man, make me feel guilty about my activity haha.
I've voted on Flux, it's pretty much based on the Day 1 shenanigans still. It's the fall back of no one is jumping out at me so I'll go for someone who pulled some stupid shit earlier in the game.
I'm aware It's not a great thing, but I really need to vote today.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 3, 2016 5:44:11 GMT -8
Nah, that's not a bad vote.
I'm moving back and forth on Flux all the time. I'm trying to see how his motives stack up and fail short of making them pro town. His read of my team especially seems unmotivated like he is not motivated to figure out what we really are and if he is so sure we're scum he isn't doing a good job of convincing the rest of town.
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 3, 2016 8:43:38 GMT -8
Like it sucks if he is town but it feels like if we remove him all those questions which have sprung up from the first day or so are dealt with.
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 3, 2016 9:37:05 GMT -8
Like it sucks if he is town but it feels like if we remove him all those questions which have sprung up from the first day or so are dealt with. FWIW the last few posts, especially Time's, look scummy to me. Hard to put a finger on it, but I think it's the change of attitude. |
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Post by Ty4on on Mar 3, 2016 9:57:22 GMT -8
There may be a switch in votes |
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Post by hobohodo on Mar 3, 2016 12:33:53 GMT -8
Well guess we're looking at bats tomorrow. But all he's been doing is posting gifs right?
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