Burbeting
Vice Admin
Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 23, 2016 12:28:41 GMT -8
I asked her in the spec thread. Will wait for response  . |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 23, 2016 12:30:56 GMT -8
Thanks!
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Burbeting
Vice Admin
Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 23, 2016 13:11:39 GMT -8
Sophia says to go for it, as long as you DON'T credit her for it, since she didn't make it.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 23, 2016 13:41:16 GMT -8
Um, can I credit her friend? Like "Sophia's friend made this one"
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Burbeting
Vice Admin
Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 23, 2016 13:46:05 GMT -8
Yeah, I think that one should be ok.
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 23, 2016 14:22:57 GMT -8
Cheers Ty4on. That's real helpful. Been reading through the thread as well to try and get a handle I everything. Hopefully kl be able to make a better go at everything at the start of the next day. Never realised how difficult joining mid day could be.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 23, 2016 15:06:20 GMT -8
I know. Just ask ask ask and don't be afraid of being a bit 'stupid' in the main thread when you come across a new assumption.
New thoughts. This is just a wild idea I'm trying to contradict, but I thought what if Kark was scum. Claiming doesn't make much sense then if Blawl is town, but it is possible Blawl is neutral and scum somehow figured this out. It's not hard to imagine town lynching a neutral and then trusting Kark more, but still quite risky. I'm not mentioning the possibility of Blawl being neutral again until they claim it. If they are scum they could use it as a fake claim.
A bit convoluted, but it looks to me like a slightly more rational claim. Slightly
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 24, 2016 9:43:13 GMT -8
Yeah I'm up to that whole Kark reveal now, only a few more pages to go. For some reason in currently leaning Blarg as being more truthful but yeah still 5 pages to go. Will be caught up by tonight thankfully!
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 11:42:35 GMT -8
If I had to choose between one of them I would probably vote Blarg. I'm abstaining to prevent a turbo and because I'm not very certain.
What Kark has going for him is that it makes little sense for a scum in his position to reveal while Blawl could just be overeager scum caught in the head lights.
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 24, 2016 14:45:48 GMT -8
All caught up!
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 24, 2016 15:19:34 GMT -8
Wow Sophia put in some work. No way I can compare to that.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 15:40:40 GMT -8
Wow Sophia put in some work. No way I can compare to that. Don't worry about that, I'd never expect you to. You can probably see how bad I was in comparison  It's a great resource though. I haven't used it as much as I should, but I could see from the D1 end summary that Karkhead and Blawl didn't post much. |
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 24, 2016 15:42:55 GMT -8
Not sure what to make of Karks suggestion to Blarg
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 15:43:46 GMT -8
I am laughing way too hard right now  Ok, I don't know of any specific reasons, but to me and some others (notably Gorlak and Launch, but we're not the only ones) Splinter and Cabot have been acting quite scummy. |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 15:48:33 GMT -8
The best reasoning I can give is if you skim their D2 posts (to me at the very least) they're very non committal and trying to push the burden to other people. 1. Flux is terrible, but anyone still trying to lynch him is more terrible. 2. Flame is terrible (again). I don't like the way he was posing questions early in this phase, felt like he was actively avoiding taking any stances. On the flip side Coppa has been slightly more town than yesterday. 3. Kark was starting to seem terrible, his questioning of Flux was really pointless in places, however his role claim seems to change things. 4. It seems obvious that we have to lynch Blarg today, Miller-tracker obviously goes before vanilla-tracker. I could also read Kark's "as per strat guide I'm ignoring Blarg" comment as a breadcrumb. HOWEVER I'd still like a full name claim from Kark. I can't see any reason not to and we should have all the info before making a decision. It looks like he is filling out a "How to be town" flow chart instead of actually scum hunting. |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 15:56:46 GMT -8
Cabot has been very fluffy (both have) and when he posts non fluff I don't see a townie trying to figure out what is going on. - Gorlak pointed out the crab scale point, I was answering a question of El Topo's regarding PR count in the game. I have never stated I agree with Gorlak's assumption, it's conjecture. The reasons I'll vote for you: - I read town on Kark up until yesterday (RL) and didn't read town on either you or Kawl. - I didn't believe your reason in targetting Kark. - Miller claim needs to be cleaned up. - I still don't see scum Flux claiming 6 minutes in to something he can't prove. - You flipping scum or otherwise points us to others, just as much as a Kark or Flux flipping scum would. There's no difference in balance there. - There's an active clash of roles here, which points to scum more than not. - I read Kawl not really answering points and then going completely silent the past 1.5 days as scummy than town. - My metagaming reason was why I thought you claimed Miller, it's not the reason I want to lynch you. - I'm not convinced a Miller is an adequate balance for unlimited tracking. I can see it as a balance for a scum tracker. This example is a little unfair as he replies to someone, but what I remember from his posts is usually like this: A lot of justification for his opinions as if they're fact and little speculation. |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 24, 2016 16:00:36 GMT -8
One disclaimer is that I'm REALLY biased. My scum read of them isn't from some deep analysis of them, but has build up from middle of D1 where I gradually got more and more suspicious of them.
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 24, 2016 16:14:57 GMT -8
Cheers man,
I played with cabot in the archer game back in series 3 and I feel like he used to give reads about everyone on a regular basis. Don't think he had done that to often this game, but it is also only Day2. Don't wanna get to meta with everything though.
I can see me putting a vote on them, really anyone but Blargs pair and Karks pair would work for me atm. Feel it's best to keep them around for a minute.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 2:06:44 GMT -8
When you have the time I'd try talking to the lynch targets. I've found the best way to read someone is with a conversation.
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 25, 2016 2:35:59 GMT -8
Okay, well I'll be free from about 15:20 onwards to get involved in convosations. I'm in the UK btw, so that's in 5 hours time.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 3:20:43 GMT -8
I'm in CET time zone so I'm just one hour ahead (12:16 right now). Do you have any impression of Kark? My read is he is very bold, but he seems genuine. His support of Blarg really reads like a townie coming to grips with a confusing situation. Something related to Blarg is that he hasn't made any attempt to step down. In my experience scum that are caught and sure to be lynched usually don't defend very hard. Blarg scum would not be an ordinary scum though |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 3:24:30 GMT -8
This is such a gold mine if Cabinter flips scum. I will laugh like a maniac if that happens.
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 25, 2016 5:45:41 GMT -8
I'm in CET time zone so I'm just one hour ahead (12:16 right now). Do you have any impression of Kark? My read is he is very bold, but he seems genuine. His support of Blarg really reads like a townie coming to grips with a confusing situation. Something related to Blarg is that he hasn't made any attempt to step down. In my experience scum that are caught and sure to be lynched usually don't defend very hard. Blarg scum would not be an ordinary scum though Yeah you've pretty much put into words what I was thinking with Kark. It feels like someone who knows he himself is a tracker and also has the knowledge that Blarg did something last night, but isn't nesecerily sold on Blarg being scum. Hadn't actually picked up on the the fact Blarg was fighting for his life whilst hanging by a thread, but yeah maybe that's why I'm trusting of Blarg as well |
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:13:34 GMT -8
The moment of truth is here.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:21:03 GMT -8
Send team Blawl my regards. Best scum of the season.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:24:47 GMT -8
Blawl's obsession with Flux makes me think he was the NK target.
His miller claim is making me think scum has a godfather, but I'm not sure.
We will be under some pressure tomorrow, sorry...
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 25, 2016 7:25:10 GMT -8
Heh, to think we almost swung at Cabot and splinter. So Kark is now confirmed it would seem.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:25:22 GMT -8
I'm gonna make a real effort to reading Cabot and Splinter once and for all.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 25, 2016 7:25:57 GMT -8
Heh, to think we almost swung at Cabot and splinter. So Kark is now confirmed it would seem. Yup, and super likely NK target. |
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Post by hobohodo on Feb 25, 2016 7:35:07 GMT -8
Guess someone may protect Kark if we have a night role that can do that. If not then I guess we just wait and see. Assuming Kark makes it though I'd be surprised if he ends up under much suspicion next phase. At least we only have cabot/splinter and Flux/Time as pairs who have had som previous spotloght.
Can't start thinking about the idea of a godfather without getting meta and thinking about the Crab scale. Burb also commented on it whilst making direct reference to millers.
I'm also trying to see why a godfather would make them claim Miller?
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