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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 16:18:13 GMT -8
Eh, I don't know if I've "solved" it. Way too early to tell, but it does fit a few things. Flux telling us D1 to "not save them if there's a doctor" could possibly make them a second roleblocker, like NeverTim (and they were certainly on the potential hitlist last night).
What really confuses me is if both of the twin roles are supposed to be on the same team. I'm like moments away from just saying "fuck it, let's find out" and totally throwing Blarg/Kawl under the bus, but it's going to kill us, too, if we're wrong.
I'm trying to carefully fish something out of Blarg that will tell me he's scum or not. The moment he or Kawl use the info they have for something anti-Town......
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 17:46:18 GMT -8
You know, if Blarg and Kawl really are scum, we're probably not making it out of N2
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 18:19:36 GMT -8
You know, if Blarg and Kawl really are scum, we're probably not making it out of N2 It's a calculated risk (assuming they are scum), if we throw them under the bus we could die today(the gambit fails and we die today). This will make Blawl die the next day If we don't throw them under the bus and we could die tonight, but they have to think we have a similar role to them. If we die, Blawl dies Usually a 1:1 townie for scum swing is a great thing. But If we are both the same alignment, I have a feeling only one other team knows (or even thinks) about the dual roles
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 19:11:26 GMT -8
I'm just trying to get in their heads and figure out what they're thinking.
On D1, they finished the day with their votes on two different people.
Despite that, they go on to check us at night. To be fair, we kept out vote on them, so maybe they prioritize people accusing them over people they accuse.
Neither of the people they voted on offered much push -back on them. In fact, they barely got any votes.
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 19:18:15 GMT -8
So they check us, and presumably get a result they don't quite expect: We targeted them.
But they probably aren't aware that we're Trackers, and thus don't know that WE know they targeted us. We could be anything at this point, even a killer, but they definitely know we have a role.
If they're scum, then they can bide their time and wait til night to kill us. Their reason to be cautious would be, well...in case we're a cop or something, withholding info.
If they're town, they also have reason to be cautious to not out another Town PR. But they also have to be thinking extra cautious, in case we're scum.
So I'm wondering - how can we get a reaction from them so we get a better idea?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 19:26:19 GMT -8
So they check us, and presumably get a result they don't quite expect: We targeted them. But they probably aren't aware that we're Trackers, and know that they targeted us. We could be anything at this point, even a killer. So what do they do during this day phase, and tonight? I can't tell if they're being cautious with the name The only thing we can claim is swapper and roleblocker.. Pretty much anything else can make sense, we just have to be careful. I think this fluxwavez and time discussion is another trap. A great distraction to keep the conversation fm going but ultimately nothing.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 19:29:43 GMT -8
Ok I've got to ask, as we know who blawl looked at, why ask three times for them to confirm?
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 19:32:17 GMT -8
I want to play dumb about knowing. I want to see what their reaction is
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 20:01:26 GMT -8
ZIPPED I WANNA DO THIS RIGHT NOW HOLD ME BACK
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:01:39 GMT -8
Fair enough. And with me agreeing that they made the right decision, it means we think it could mean us, but aren't sure. Which should keep them guessing on who what and how many people visited them.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:01:53 GMT -8
ZIPPED I WANNA DO THIS RIGHT NOW HOLD ME BACK Give me 2 minutes to read the thread
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 20:02:17 GMT -8
lol
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:04:55 GMT -8
Ok there has to be a funny dog looking at mirror gif to post.
It really the best way to post it...
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:10:51 GMT -8
It's all yours.
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 20:11:30 GMT -8
Shoudl we do it now? I mean, I'm ready to just lay it all out on the discussion. If they're scum, today is the only day we have.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:11:39 GMT -8
It's day 2 uneccessary gambit time
Dealwithit.gif
Best time to play Mafia!
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 20:11:56 GMT -8
Thats what I like to hear
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:14:10 GMT -8
Pokemon joke incoming...
Does this make us butch and Cassidy? I'm thinking gifs and images are the best way to get through to blarg.
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 20:18:07 GMT -8
Very nice, haha
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 20:34:03 GMT -8
Cheers! Smoke'em if you got them!
It's Miller time!
Best time to play Mafia!
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 22, 2016 4:00:06 GMT -8
I still find it hard to believe a Miller claim. It's the one piece that doesn't make sense in such a "small" game. There are far more fun ways to investigate than by alignment in these types of games.
It makes a little more sense without a "role" cop claim, but only just.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 22, 2016 8:20:25 GMT -8
Calling it right now.
Ultrajay and Boo Boo'n are scum
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Post by karkador on Feb 22, 2016 8:57:24 GMT -8
That's what I was thinking, too.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 22, 2016 11:14:10 GMT -8
It's too convenient with their parroting and the diversion from Kawl/Blarg.
IF Blawl is scum of course...
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Post by karkador on Feb 22, 2016 11:55:53 GMT -8
The voting pattern is kind of there, too. Blarg puts a vote on UltraBoo, Boo puts a vote on Blarg, then he moves it to the dogpile with Ultra. It looks like "see? I voted for them once, we're not team members" voting coordination.
Kawl and Blarg split their votes to covers more bases, and UltraBoo threw the weight of both of their votes on Tim to make sure they don't get voted out.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 22, 2016 14:33:47 GMT -8
What do you think on Cabot? I keep going back and forth on scum or town.
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Post by karkador on Feb 22, 2016 16:04:44 GMT -8
Yeah I have no idea what to think of him
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 23, 2016 3:51:38 GMT -8
The metagaming is getting bad... i can understand blarg's frustration. That "OMG it doesn't fit the crab scale" is ridiculous...
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Post by karkador on Feb 23, 2016 5:02:48 GMT -8
I'm slightly disconcerted by how little push-back there is on the Blarg lynch.
Did mafia give up on defending him, or are we wrong?
Mods, we get partial credit for getting the correct answer here, right?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 23, 2016 7:27:54 GMT -8
It does leave me a bit disconcerted. That's why I kind of want today to get a move on as well. Most everyone has weighed in, why do we insist on dragging it out until the last possible moment every single time? It's apparent that no one is going to post more reads or anything
Except us, when the vote count gets to 14 or there are 15 minutes left, we could say something about UltraBoo... just to mess with them.
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