Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 18, 2016 10:21:35 GMT -8
I'll be taking Night Action either as a PM from either of you, or as a command put up in this chat  . If you put it up in the chat, please make it so I will notice it for sure. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 18, 2016 11:27:10 GMT -8
Just read the close of day and WoW!
What a cluster, dogpile it was. The boat was out for blood and nevertim got bit.
Ok, I say we use one of our tracks tonight. That way unless we die tonight at least we could have some information.
If we can agree who do we want to look at?
I think we need to stay away from flux/time, no question. And Blawl is only a maybe.
Kingkitty/hyper?
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Post by karkador on Feb 18, 2016 17:33:38 GMT -8
Welp, that was ...not the craziest Day 1 I've been in, but a predictably chaotic final hours. It looked like we were going to coast to a lynch of Hyper/Kingkitty, but then suddenly some other pairs became really viable votes. I think we should all really look at how that process evolved to try to see who was scummy - although, honestly, the Town flip makes me doubt all ability I have of discerning scum from town  . Unfortunately, I kind of stepped in it a bit by pushing for a CzarTim vote a few times without actually voting on him, so that's bound to get someone pointing fingers at us. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Feb 18, 2016 17:35:23 GMT -8
Just read the close of day and WoW! What a cluster, dogpile it was. The boat was out for blood and nevertim got bit. Ok, I say we use one of our tracks tonight. That way unless we die tonight at least we could have some information. If we can agree who do we want to look at? I think we need to stay away from flux/time, no question. And Blawl is only a maybe. Kingkitty/hyper? Welcome to GAFia |
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Post by karkador on Feb 18, 2016 19:14:27 GMT -8
For the spectators creeping on the thread: I wanted to justify my paranoia a bit with the "tap tap" request.
I dunno if you've noticed, Zipped, but for whatever reason, this thread shows like over 400 views. I know our moderators are huge fans, but come on now...why so many views?
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Post by Sorian on Feb 18, 2016 19:22:41 GMT -8
We have scientists studying this thread. We're going to have a full mental analysis ready for you on your death.
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Post by karkador on Feb 18, 2016 19:30:10 GMT -8
Please make my clones with a better scum-sense
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 19, 2016 8:36:07 GMT -8
For the spectators creeping on the thread: I wanted to justify my paranoia a bit with the "tap tap" request. I dunno if you've noticed, Zipped, but for whatever reason, this thread shows like over 400 views. I know our moderators are huge fans, but come on now...why so many views? Wow! That's crazy. Some of it might be me logging in from my phone. everytime I open the safari app it makes me log back in, but that probably adds 30-40 views at most. I've been thinking about our ability. I think Hyper/Kingkitty is a good possibility, I was going to include launch/Gorlak, but I am thinking they are just a coordinated team (like us), they vote as a block, and seem to be on the same page. This strikes me more as town than Mafia (mafia has more people in the chat, so less likely to think that each "team" should vote as a block. My reasoning behind this assumption is that a common mafia tactic is to vote all over the place to avoid suspicion). What are your thoughts on *Splinter/Cabot and Coppanova/Flame_AC. Everyone has been giving Splinter/cabot a town read, but I have been getting a distinct read that their couple chat is disjointed. Honestly That makes me think that they are scum. They seem to be playing very cautious but still a distinct two games, not one game over two people. Coppa/Flame has been about what I expected, but something seems off to me and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe I'm reading too much into their playstyle. |
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Post by karkador on Feb 19, 2016 11:22:00 GMT -8
Yeah, the mafia habits are tricky to assess in this game. Since so many players have one other voice in the game they can confide in, the characteristic of the discussions and the voting is really something else.
Although I expect that not every couple is perfectly in sync...that might explain what's up with Flux and Time. That's probably less of an issue for the mafia, though. So I think that maybe looking for players who are coordinating with each other in subtle ways- whether it's staying out of each other's way, or launching just the most minimal criticism at each other (which they already rehearsed a response for)....
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Post by karkador on Feb 19, 2016 11:24:02 GMT -8
Other than that, I think it's interesting that you brought up Ty4on and Sophia when I mentioned "players who know what the rolenames are like", because I was specifically thinking about them, too.
They might be a decent target to track, although I'd hate to track a potential Town role and not really be able to talk about it so we don't out them.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 19, 2016 13:11:28 GMT -8
Other than that, I think it's interesting that you brought up Ty4on and Sophia when I mentioned "players who know what the rolenames are like", because I was specifically thinking about them, too. They might be a decent target to track, although I'd hate to track a potential Town role and not really be able to talk about it so we don't out them. That's just it, They could be a really savvy scum player OR they are a town PR. I do agree they could be a decent target to track. Am I wrong in assuming that our role is best when we find a player who visits someone who dies that morning? |
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Post by karkador on Feb 19, 2016 13:28:25 GMT -8
You mean, that we did our job if we tracked someone going to visit the player who ended up dead the following morning?
You're right, It looks damning; but their defense will probably be that they have some other kind of role that they used on the deceased. Then the group will spend the whole day arguing about that, and without any other info, we might end up lynching another PR (or at the very least, outing one).
Let me tell you; as someone who got caught like that by a Watcher, when I was the Serial Killer- it's easy to come up with a story about why you were at the scene of the crime, but the pressure is crazy the longer you have to hold it up.
I think we would be very lucky to find the 1/27th person who made the kill...but I m also going back to the Blarg or Flux options.
If Blarg/Kawl or Flux/Time don't die tonight, Town is definitely going to expect them to have a result to share - and whatever result we get from investigating them is going to really give us a better idea of what they might be up to.
...I just don't know which pair to pick, lol.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 19, 2016 19:40:20 GMT -8
I'm more for blarg/kawl then for flux/time. But mainly because of the tracker claim.
Two trackers is ridiculous, so they are bound to have a different ability, just why lie about it?
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 20, 2016 8:47:41 GMT -8
Reminder that you have 24 hours left to senf your night action . |
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Post by karkador on Feb 20, 2016 16:35:45 GMT -8
I think I'm gonna have to agree that Blarg/Kawl is the most sensible target, as far as potential for information.
It could be a trap of some kind, but I guess well have to wait and see.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 20, 2016 18:27:58 GMT -8
I think I'm gonna have to agree that Blarg/Kawl is the most sensible target, as far as potential for information. It could be a trap of some kind, but I guess well have to wait and see. You want to submit or should I? |
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Post by karkador on Feb 20, 2016 22:56:25 GMT -8
Let's do it.
Binoculars: Blargonaut & Kawl_USC
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 21, 2016 2:45:44 GMT -8
Command received.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 8:32:57 GMT -8
Thanks Kark!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 21, 2016 8:44:45 GMT -8
I'll be putting up the results in this thread after the night actions have been locked in (so in about 15 minutes) . |
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 21, 2016 9:18:28 GMT -8
NIGHT 1 TRACKING RESULTS
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 9:55:39 GMT -8
Sigh...I fucking knew this would happen..
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 10:40:39 GMT -8
Blarg confirmed that he looked at us, "and they looked back" (so they're indeed a tracker).
But since nobody died, people may suspect that we tried to kill Blarg, and Blarg was saved. Our doctor is at risk of being outed now.
I'm looking very closely at how Blarg and Kawl are going to play this. It's going to hint at whether they're scum or not.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 11:15:49 GMT -8
Of course we looked back...
We are insomniacs...
That's our only lying play.
How the hell? Spec thread must be laughing their asses off
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 11:36:49 GMT -8
I'be been thinking about this. If blarg/kawl knows we are trackers, then if they are scum they must know if we die they will likely go next. If the town version Of a claimed and accurate PR dies, typically the claimed and accurate one dies next (because why would town have two of the same role). If Blawl is scum, AND they have a roleblocker, I bet they use it on us tonight (if only to kill flux's team). I'm betting that team was bulletproof insomniac, but I'm not saying it in thread. Also possible they got roleblocked, so we need to think about that.
I'm pretty sure barring some colossal BS we live until tomorrow
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 11:57:07 GMT -8
We can also claim sleepwalker. Just thinking but Cabot gave us that one...
I don't trust him, but of the people who jumped on the "no kill is stupid" (which it is, I just wanted to see who would entertain the idea) I get the worst feeling on ultrajay. If him and Boo Boo'n are ultra critical of us today, then we may have an inclination on a potential scum partner... (assuming Blawl is scum, ultra Boo would already know that we visited Blawl if they were scum as well)
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Post by karkador on Feb 21, 2016 12:34:33 GMT -8
I'be been thinking about this. If blarg/kawl knows we are trackers, then if they are scum they must know if we die they will likely go next. If the town version Of a claimed and accurate PR dies, typically the claimed and accurate one dies next (because why would town have two of the same role). If Blawl is scum, AND they have a roleblocker, I bet they use it on us tonight (if only to kill flux's team). I'm betting that team was bulletproof insomniac, but I'm not saying it in thread. Also possible they got roleblocked, so we need to think about that. I'm pretty sure barring some colossal BS we live until tomorrow They don't know yet. Without us claiming Tracker at all (or even saying we know they saw us), we could be any role that targeted them. So I'm definitely inclined to believe their Tracker ability, because they saw us aim at them. I dont' really want to think this is true (because it's ANNOYING), but we might be dealing with a game where there is actually a pair of each role, too. It could explain why we had no kill last night - two doctors and two targetproof raise the chances of a no-kill considerably. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 15:05:40 GMT -8
I'be been thinking about this. If blarg/kawl knows we are trackers, then if they are scum they must know if we die they will likely go next. If the town version Of a claimed and accurate PR dies, typically the claimed and accurate one dies next (because why would town have two of the same role). If Blawl is scum, AND they have a roleblocker, I bet they use it on us tonight (if only to kill flux's team). I'm betting that team was bulletproof insomniac, but I'm not saying it in thread. Also possible they got roleblocked, so we need to think about that. I'm pretty sure barring some colossal BS we live until tomorrow They don't know yet. Without us claiming Tracker at all (or even saying we know they saw us), we could be any role that targeted them. So I'm definitely inclined to believe their Tracker ability, because they saw us aim at them. I dont' really want to think this is true (because it's ANNOYING), but we might be dealing with a game where there is actually a pair of each role, too. It could explain why we had no kill last night - two doctors and two targetproof raise the chances of a no-kill considerably. Did you just solve the game? How does this work with 15 teams? Oh wait! One nuetral pair! |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 15:11:19 GMT -8
It probably doesn't even push us into role madness even. And it's likely only two Mafia pairs...
Ok do we want to breadcrumb the 3-shot ability? If Blawl and us share our roles, then they likely have the same stipulation and it's not Miller.
It would help us figure out this game, and give us confirmation like you said on two untargetables
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 21, 2016 15:25:33 GMT -8
That supposition about two bulletproof a was originally a lot longer and I thought it revealed too much, son toned it down
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