Well, what if we're making a mistake? I don't really think we can back out, anyhow (and the evidence does line up), but nothing has really jumped out at me as a defense of Blarg.
If Blawl were scum, what would the most typical Mafia reaction be? Would they try to divert the claim onto me ? Would they just stay quiet? I feel like a Miller claim by scum sort of accepts that they will lose that player, though it seems unlikely.
The problem with this Miller Tracker shit is that it's pretty much scripted to fail us. Putting in a Miller is already a pitfall - a Miller duplicate role is pretty much scripting two Town players killing each other. Likewise a Mafia Tracker is sort of screwed, too.
Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 23, 2016 12:12:29 GMT -8
I think we were set down this path as soon as Blarg claimed Miller/Tracker. the fact that we tracked each other makes it comical. It's the miller claim, as I said in the thread I can't imagine town having more than three investigative roles in a game this size (15). Two trackers, and an alignment cop (which is the only reason we would have a miller). It's just so crazy. That would be four roles right there, plus three scum and a neutral. That's 8 roles out of 15. MAYBE 1-3 more town roles (a sleep walker to mess with the trackers, an insomniac (someone to find trackers and not ping them), and a swapper). that's a full load without any sort of doctor/protection (not unheard of).
I just don't see alignment mattering, so blawl MUST be scum...
I swear the spectator thread must have been howling with laughter at that turn of events.
Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 23, 2016 13:00:05 GMT -8
I like to believe I am fair,
I figured out Absolutebro in Star wars mafia (and got lynched for it), Called *Splinter being scum in DG Mafia, but I also completely misplayed Woof 2.0 (and got replaced from Hogwarts due to finding out information that I should not have had).
I did REALLY well on game mechanics in volcano island (to the point where scum killed me first because I had it figured out). So fair, but not upper echelon like Time (regardless of alignment), Daryll (he can really play Mafia, when townies let him), Blarg (for his antics, the guy can play Mafia) or Ultron.
It sounds like you've had more success than me, so I hope you can detach your judgments from mine.
Hmm. See, I've only really mostly seen Blarg from afar, or I was only in a game with him for one day. It's hard for me to gauge him, although it's clear he's really sharp and involved in the games he's in. So I don't want to underestimate him.
So if you think Blarg is leaning Town now, do we just go along with the "Lynch Timeflux" plan? Like I said, though, I think Blarg's terms for "What happens if Timeflux flips scum or Town" are skewed and unfair to us. If we go along with it, we should propose what we think each flip would mean.
Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 24, 2016 9:45:25 GMT -8
That's just it, Timeflux could even be neutral. I disagree wholeheartedly that our play came out to try and save timeflux, maybe you could say that Cabot/*Splinter were trying to save timeflux, but our play came out solely because of the trackers seeings that the other "trackers" looked at first trackers.
Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 24, 2016 13:38:13 GMT -8
I think any vote reversal from us would just flip the vote on us. I think spec chat is probably laughing all the way to the bank.
Assuming blarg/Kawl flip town: For the record, if we are the only two investigation roles (i.e. no alignment cop), then there is NO FREAKING REASON why blarg should be a miller. Seriously if he had just claimed tracker, I probably would have just recommend we breadcrumb tracker. We doubled down because of the miller claim. If there is an alignment cop, then yeah I can see miller, but so many power roles in such a small game...
If there are no ordinaries I will flip my shit. seriously.
It is an impressive gambit, and WE can not change (even if I think we both kind of want to). We have to hold on to the fact that we are town, and appear as town to any alignment cops, and even if they are town, they still appear as scum to any alignment investigations.
Claiming day 1 miller, If I had been their team I would not have claimed it after the "role cop" came out. It's too many different types of investigation for a 15 person game. it doesn't make sense. Hogwarts revisited ( too many investigation powers).