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Post by palmer on Oct 25, 2015 11:13:01 GMT -8
Yeah I was surprised nobody focused on that.
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Post by palmer on Oct 25, 2015 11:13:32 GMT -8
I have to claim something that explains me targeting though. Assuming i end up claiming.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 25, 2015 12:48:12 GMT -8
This is a hard one. I still doubt Pop is playing with us and he did take note of you. Best case he won't out you and we can kill him Night 2. GC bandwagon will start soon. Worst case he accuses you. Can we shift it to pop has to go before looking into your case? It's more probable they want to see your flip and determine if Pop is worth keeping around. Even if you have a decent claim, things look bad for you.
Don't even mention Otacon, this will get you lynched on the spot. I'll look into some characters. Problem is we already sorted out the dolls being out of place :/ This leaves the door open for out of context neutrals. And neutrals will get lynched.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 25, 2015 13:16:57 GMT -8
:( Nothing fits the dolls.
Best thing I can think of is Olga Gurlukovich searching for her child. She's no member of foxhound/deadcell and was forced to take part in the events because her daughter was kidnapped. If 3 persons keep the doll, you get free / if you find Sunny, you win... it's not satisfying. She is shady but not on the real bad side. neutral and lynched, i guess.
Maybe invent something around Fatman? Dolls are obviously bombs and you're a vigilante?
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Post by palmer on Oct 25, 2015 13:51:49 GMT -8
Vig is a consideration, yes, but we dont know for sure if the other killer is a vig for not. Best case is we make the day without him or splinter outing me. If we do, we have to consider killing pop. Hopefully neither of you catch more aggro either. I wouldnt poke splinters doll comment if we can avoid it.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 25, 2015 14:00:30 GMT -8
Vig is a consideration, yes, but we dont know for sure if the other killer is a vig for not. Best case is we make the day without him or splinter outing me. If we do, we have to consider killing pop. Hopefully neither of you catch more aggro either. I wouldnt poke splinters doll comment if we can avoid it. If there is a vig, he has to come forward at least. I won't touch the dolls, but I do want to mention L_Ps none vote, nobody noticed and it could give me some small credit. Otherwise I'm working on it. |
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Post by palmer on Oct 25, 2015 14:05:16 GMT -8
I could win favor ahead of time if i slyly tell splinter to dispose of it, that way i can point it out later as evidence. That means i wasted a night though. I really want to deliver one more and then blow them night 3. With a mislynch today and another double kill and another mislynch then possible quad kill, the game would be over.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 25, 2015 14:18:03 GMT -8
But telling him now to dispose is obviously a back door in case you get outed. People won't believe you. Let's try to sit it out.
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Post by palmer on Oct 25, 2015 14:32:09 GMT -8
Yeah i dont intend to act on anything. Ill be away for a few hours here. Hopefully nothing drastic changes.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 25, 2015 15:39:26 GMT -8
Neutral Survivor could work but is always a risk as people hate neutrals. Everyone alive gets a doll you win.
Delayed roleblock? Kind of an odd role to have.
My brother says dolls are like decoys in MGSV. A bit of a stretch. Having a decoy makes you immune to one night action against you. One shot obviously. But why would you pick Splinter and not keep it?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 0:12:21 GMT -8
If GC doesn't come out with his real role, he is done. Otherwise it looks like Sorian still gets a fair amount of votes. Right now I think we are safe for the day.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 1:17:17 GMT -8
Maybe GC is part of our team? He denies being Foxhound? Doubt The Boss is his real role, she was the leader of Cobra making her probably Foxhound aligned. Trying to out another PR?
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 4:42:28 GMT -8
I think we can ignore him for now. Too risky to target him if hes telling the truth. He may be the sk though.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 6:00:15 GMT -8
L_P can you deliver some more input? You had 2 posts this whole day, people will look at you despite the fact you are known for a low post frequency.
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 6:35:58 GMT -8
Actually, im dumb. We killed roy. Matt attack is the mystery and he wasnt a power role. Theres a chance gc is telling the truth and roy was dead twice though. He could also just be the killer though.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 26, 2015 6:40:39 GMT -8
Yeah I'll try to post before the day ends.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 6:45:03 GMT -8
I really want to apply some pressure on you in game LP, but I will wait till Day 3. Otherwise we have a chance of irrational bandwaggoning today. You didn't vote and had 2 posts till now and only one or two people care.
What do you guys think of "soon" readying a bus? (only starting to get suspicious, before some time later going hard at someone) One of us has to gain trust in the long run. In terms of power mine is the weakest, so I'd be a good target. I don't think we should offer one of ourselves for free, but in case someone gets too shady, it would be good if another one pointed it out earlier.
Of course we have to be careful and not reveal a connection.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 6:49:55 GMT -8
Actually, im dumb. We killed roy. Matt attack is the mystery and he wasnt a power role. Theres a chance gc is telling the truth and roy was dead twice though. He could also just be the killer though. Was thinking about this, if GC is telling the truth, we could have raised the body count to 3, yes. Doesn't matter now. |
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 7:06:30 GMT -8
Do we switch kill pop tonight? The only other thing i can think of is switching me with someone just in case splinter is a killer and comes after me. In that case, im not sure who we should kill.
I can also detonate bomb to throw suspicion on gc for a double or even triple kill night, but as soon as i give out more bombs, people will remember splinters doll talk on d2 and assume poisoner style killing. If pop is alive, that probably gets me lynched. So basically, if i try to blow up splinter today, we also need to kill pop tonight.
Ouro, if gc was a veteran as claimed, would lp die if he targeted him? I assume nk immune protects him.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 26, 2015 7:22:00 GMT -8
L_P is immune to all NK.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 26, 2015 8:59:26 GMT -8
GC is probably an SK. 3 possible kills last night seems a bit much for a small game, but I wouldn't put it past Ouro.
I think we have to switch-kill Pop. He's not going to be a suspect for the rest of the game, and if we kill Splinter and leave him alive it puts a lot of heat on Palmer.
What happens if Gorlak switches me and Pop and I target GC (assuming he's a Veteran)? GC's retaliation kill goes to me but gets switched to Pop? Does GC die?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 9:45:44 GMT -8
Sorian, if you can read this please put a lousy Bing reference in your next post! Or use this smiley: o.O
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 26, 2015 9:50:26 GMT -8
GC is probably an SK. 3 possible kills last night seems a bit much for a small game, but I wouldn't put it past Ouro. I think we have to switch-kill Pop. He's not going to be a suspect for the rest of the game, and if we kill Splinter and leave him alive it puts a lot of heat on Palmer. What happens if Gorlak switches me and Pop and I target GC (assuming he's a Veteran)? GC's retaliation kill goes to me but gets switched to Pop? Does GC die? Switching only messes up targets of actions, not who commits them. |
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 9:50:13 GMT -8
I don't think it would work like that. His retaliation is after the switch. If we could switch pops target, it might work, but if gc is lying, all weve done is reveal gorlak to pop. Not worth it at all. I assume sk or vig. Question is if he will kill another town or get one of us? I shouldnt be a vig target at this point, but might be worth killing for a sk. Dunno yet.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 26, 2015 9:52:46 GMT -8
Okay never mind then.
Who should we switch-kill Pop with? Cabot? Scrafty? Or someone more low-key like Hyper or Kalor?
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 9:54:36 GMT -8
Are we definitely killing pop? If he gets watched, gorlak may get outed. Otherwise it seems safe. Then i can blow up splinter as well if neither of them out me today.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 26, 2015 10:29:58 GMT -8
Probably need to kill Pop. He's wondering whether to reveal his target. Will need a possible role claim for Palmer if he's outed.
Watcher would have to get lucky to see us. Odds are still in our favour.
Maybe a switch-kill isn't necessary but I can see the doctor continuing to protect Pop if he proves useful enough. In that case maybe switching with Scrafty or cabot isn't the best idea since they could get protection as well.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 11:35:01 GMT -8
Sorian, if you can read this please put a lousy Bing reference in your next post! Or use this smiley: o.O ... that leaves Fireblend which is a  to me anyway. I did not know 3 question marks in a row made that weird emoticon, sorry lol. Fireblend is a question mark is what I was trying to say. What do you guys make of it? |
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 26, 2015 11:36:45 GMT -8
Unless he is a time traveler, this is a coincidence.
OMG, I'll let this post stay just for the lulz
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Post by palmer on Oct 26, 2015 11:42:11 GMT -8
Today has been fun. Got most people trusting me again and might manage to buffalo a power role long enough to get rid of him (Hi czartim). Also splinter semi confirmed that he doesnt know who targeted him which means i should be safe there as well.
Should i suggest pop track splinter?
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to me anyway.