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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 20, 2015 16:51:49 GMT -8
Happy hunting, Philanthropy!
I'll be monitoring this thread, so I'll try to answer questions you may have here, but please PM me as well if necessary.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 20, 2015 17:41:46 GMT -8
We're the bad guys?
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 20, 2015 17:47:31 GMT -8
Yep!
Honestly, there were just more bad guys than good guys in the universe, so it made it a little easier to plan out.
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Post by palmer on Oct 20, 2015 20:55:18 GMT -8
So I'm a weird arsonist. I can give out a doll each night and the player knows they have a doll. They can dispose of the doll as a night action, which prevents them from acting in any other way that night. I can also submit an order to blow up all dolls thus killing the holders.
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Post by palmer on Oct 20, 2015 20:59:15 GMT -8
Ouro, do i know when a doll is disposed of? Can disposal be tracked, watched, blocked, or redirected? Can i be tracked, watched, blocked, or redirected when giving boom command?
Do boom kills get described differently than any other kills?
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Post by palmer on Oct 20, 2015 21:02:12 GMT -8
Can a doctor prevent boom death?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 21, 2015 0:06:20 GMT -8
Hello my sweet comrades! First of all: WTF. I'm Raiden. Ouro you did this on purpose, huh? Should I change my avatar now, or should I run with it? I chose it before the role pms and any action now could be misinterpreted :( Anyways I'm a switcher. What are your role names? Giving out dolls sounds like Screaming Mantis, but the dolls came up in MGS 4, right? And he is a villain. So who is Solid Snake? The other one is Otacon? Ourobolus what are the Drones called in this game? EDIT: BIG PROBLEM: the Post CountPeople will see our post counts rising without any posts popping up -> some will eventually notice and make the right conclusions. --- Edit 2: As long as my post count is none existent, I'll sneak in more edits... Here is the obligatory google sheet waiting to be filled with our information: MGS Sheet*Adminstuff: Is it possible for people not in the thread to search for my posts and see the mafia chat? |
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 3:23:18 GMT -8
Ordinaries are Cardboard Boxes.
Docs can prevent boom death, but only on one person. But it's not like doctors live past D1 anyway, right?
You won't know if someone throws their doll away.
You can be seen when giving out the doll, but not when remotely detonating them.
As for the post count...good point. I'll ping retro and see what can be done.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 3:24:06 GMT -8
Disposal is also an "action," so yes, it could be blocked (though not redirected, since it can only self-target anyway).
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 21, 2015 4:41:26 GMT -8
Let's win this game! 3/16 does not add up, I strongly believe we have a lost brother. The other sidegames were all 4/16? Maybe we do have another faction or the neutrals are bigger, but for now I go with my instincts. So we need look for subtle hints or even claims of sidecharacters, who could be on our side. As to power roles, what do you expect to be there? Doc and Cop of course. A watcher/tracker because I mess with them. Yeah, I'll look into the mid season games, there was one incident with the switcher leading to his direct lynch *afair* L_P, what do you mean by weird arsonist? scum wiki points to a firefighter, we should keep that in mind. Ourobolus, I'm looking forward to your fluff  |
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Post by palmer on Oct 21, 2015 5:01:27 GMT -8
I am Otacon, yes.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 5:06:54 GMT -8
lol I just now noticed Palmer's tag.
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Post by RetroMG on Oct 21, 2015 6:30:17 GMT -8
Posts in this thread will not increase your post count and will not appear in searches. You are safe, Philanthropy.
You must continue your mi-mission.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 6:31:36 GMT -8
Awesome. Thanks, Retro.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 6:32:03 GMT -8
test
yay, it works.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 21, 2015 7:46:56 GMT -8
Posts in this thread will not increase your post count and will not appear in searches. You are safe, Philanthropy. You must continue your mi-mission. Yes! Thank you very much. No more reason to hold back, let's go guys! Are you familiar with MGS? My former question was asked seriously, my avatar is my role. Right now, I think going with it is the best I can do. Does the sheet work for you? You should be able to edit anything. Any suggestions? What are your experiences? I spent 2 days as mafia replacement in the Archer game and was lynched point on (curse you, mission mechanics). I recall something StarWars Palmer related? Please tell me you both will be active and share your thoughts with me here! Since I'm still fairly new I want to rely on you and learn as much as I can. The Dolls will be interesting. We do have to give them to unsuspicious people who will not be lynched soon to max out the kills. They will confuse the town, depending on when the first person comes forward with it. Nice deflection. Earlier I already mixed up your names. -> Palmer: Otacon, what you described as the weird arsonist. Doctor can cancel one doll kill or people can dispose of them. Are you able to hit the detonate button as often as you want? If so we have to balance between giving out a lot of dolls or getting (possibly) double kills every other night. Lone_Prodigy, what is your role? |
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 8:10:32 GMT -8
Palmer will most likely be pretty active, but I think he's kinda busy until Monday. So expect more from him after that.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 21, 2015 8:36:21 GMT -8
I'm Snake, I'm immune to night kills and when investigated will show up as Foxhound.
I don't know a lot about MGS.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 9:01:59 GMT -8
I'm Snake, I'm immune to night kills and when investigated will show up as Foxhound. I don't know a lot about MGS. Nanomachines. You're welcome. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 9:15:44 GMT -8
Oh, and Palmer - while you don't visit or move to perform the detonation, it's still an action and can be blocked.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 21, 2015 12:34:13 GMT -8
The game has started!
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 21, 2015 14:11:04 GMT -8
I'm Snake, I'm immune to night kills and when investigated will show up as Foxhound. I don't know a lot about MGS. Damn, pretty neat. This confirms some form of night kills apart from us. Also does the role pm state Snake or Solid Snake? (maybe this is unimportant, but maybe not... we do have a lot of Snakes in this universe) What do you think about the size of our team? |
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 21, 2015 14:39:29 GMT -8
Solid Snake. Liquid Snake is a suggested fake claim, which I guess makes sense. Bulletproof and will pass any investigation.
3/16 probably means a neutral in play? We're pretty OP: an arsonist, a switcher, and an NK/cop-immune. I think 3 seems fine.
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Post by palmer on Oct 21, 2015 21:31:53 GMT -8
Yeah sorry guys, im in chicago for a wedding until sunday night. My posting will be sporadic until then. Since i may not have time to talk much give me target choices in here. Are any of us likely to be watched n1? Might be worth considering a no kill night. Has decent chance of confusing role blockers and doctors into a mislynch d2. See ouro and retro from gafia game
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Post by palmer on Oct 22, 2015 6:56:58 GMT -8
Raiden dont change avatar cause nobody will suspect you ended up with it. Changing it would be more suspicious. Can you switch yourself?
Id suggest switching one of us with a townie n1.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 22, 2015 8:11:15 GMT -8
We could try a switch+kill on the same target like NX. It could spectacularly backfire though.
I wouldn't be opposed to a no-kill night. Give a doll, detonate the next night for a double-kill.
What if a doll is discarded the same night as it's detonated?
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 22, 2015 8:18:18 GMT -8
Disposal takes precedence over detonation.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 22, 2015 8:26:31 GMT -8
I'm on phone, so it's a pain in the assignment to write. I wouldn't recommend switch+kill, where is the advantage?
PM doesn't forbid self switching. So I definitely would switch myself. Problem are people who could see me or my action. So obvious suspicious target may not be the best choice. But tricking the cop would be great.
I'd kill as many as possible each night. Don't see the long term benefit of a no kill.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 22, 2015 10:18:49 GMT -8
The "disposal before detonation" seriously lowers the chance of getting a kill off. It's also a risk to detonate as opposed to giving out another doll. You're right, better off killing often.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 22, 2015 10:23:59 GMT -8
It still functions as a roleblock in that case, though. If it went first, then you'd effectively be killing them AND roleblocking them. Which, IMO, is pretty OP.
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