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Post by Burbeting on Feb 26, 2016 7:26:45 GMT -8
You would track whoever you were switched with.
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 26, 2016 7:28:29 GMT -8
Also zipped, the spectator thread is completely spoiler free (Except that few people have asked directly me for the list of scum, which I have then given to them via PM). So they were just as much on edge, as you were.
And I might give blarg/kawl read access here, maybe.
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 8:12:05 GMT -8
Ohh, so they're not laughing at us!
I mean, not as much...
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Post by yn on Feb 26, 2016 8:47:55 GMT -8
Ohh, so they're not laughing at us! I mean, not as much... Well... |
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 9:00:53 GMT -8
So the clarification about the Switcher's effect is interesting. Consider this more speculation-for-fun than an actual proposal for a plan:
Suppose Mafia has a Switcher, and Mafia intends to leave us alive - because they reasoned that they could build a case against us in Day 3.
Perhaps they think there's a Cop of some kind, and the Cop is interested in checking us out tonight, juuust to verify the other side of the Blarg fight.
So their plan would be Switch us with one of their own; Cop investigates us, but gets a result as if it was one of them, and makes us look like bad guys.
Which is why I asked - if we Tracked ourselves in that scenario, we'd actually track a Mafia.
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 9:06:35 GMT -8
#unnecessarygambit2016 has only just begun
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 9:11:15 GMT -8
You know what would have been amazing about this last day, and coming out with the "two trackers" claim? If we were never actually Trackers. Everything about our claim could have easily been a bluff.
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 9:11:32 GMT -8
*doublepost
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 26, 2016 10:09:26 GMT -8
You know what would have been amazing about this last day, and coming out with the "two trackers" claim? If we were never actually Trackers. Everything about our claim could have easily been a bluff. HOLY SHIT! you are right! we could have bluffed the whole thing... I am not sure exactly how our last gambit plays out. We started the ball rolling against blarg, but then tried to save them. Then they flip scum. How do we fit there? |
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Post by karkador on Feb 26, 2016 13:24:18 GMT -8
HOLY SHIT! you are right! we could have bluffed the whole thing... I am not sure exactly how our last gambit plays out. We started the ball rolling against blarg, but then tried to save them. Then they flip scum. How do we fit there? I think it will be difficult for anyone to plainly say, "they tried to help a Mafia player at the end, they're scum!" - but they're going to try. I'm certain of it. I'm not scared of it, because we have several days of conversation that shows we were gunning for the Blarg vote, even trying to push a TURBO. Whether Splinter & Cabot are mafia, well; it's either Yes, or No. We were able to drive almost half of the playerbase to vote on either Blarg or Splinter. Somewhere in that vote, there's scum. Questions we need to ask (feel free to add to this): 1) Why did Splinter and Cabot hesitate to hammer the vote on Blarg? Now with a confirmed Mafia flip, this looks all-the-more suspicious. 2) Why did Gorlak decide to hammer the vote? 3) Why did Blarg hesitate to join our plan to drive the vote on Splinter? Was it an act, or did he and Kawl coordinate with others in Mafia chat? 4) Why did we manage to drive so many votes onto Splinter in so little time? Did Mafia jump on that bandwagon to try to save Blarg? 5) Of the players who voted on Splinter, which ones jumped ship from Blarg, vs. not having a vote to start? |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 26, 2016 13:46:07 GMT -8
I know this is the loveboat, and not a disney film... but did you see the end of Day 2 over at the princess ball? Some good scum hunting over there...
Its the fake neutral claim to powerful scum reveal. We saw Miller claim to "not a lie about my power" scum reveal. It makes me think about other scum and where they likely are.
I'm still pretty sure ultraboo is scum (or just busy and skipping pages). I can't see scum agreeing to sacrifice one for another on day 2 so Timeflux is likely NOT scum.
*splinter & cabot. Could be a more powerful role than scum tracker, but could also just be someone they threw together to try and create a case around lynching Time/flux.
Another thought, maybe they have some sort of "rug sweeper" ability, that removes a player completely from the game at death (some of the games in season 4 & 4.5 had them) its not Madness or terrible, but it does punish those who are not paying attention. If the vote had flipped on timeflux or *splinter, we could have been shuffled under a rug (death with no role reveal), and then we magically only have one tracker again...
So.
TL DR; we should probably look at Ultraboo, use it or lose it
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 26, 2016 14:02:36 GMT -8
I think it will be difficult for anyone to plainly say, "they tried to help a Mafia player at the end, they're scum!" - but they're going to try. I'm certain of it. I'm not scared of it, because we have several days of conversation that shows we were gunning for the Blarg vote, even trying to push a TURBO. Whether Splinter & Cabot are mafia, well; it's either Yes, or No. We were able to drive almost half of the playerbase to vote on either Blarg or Splinter. Somewhere in that vote, there's scum. Questions we need to ask (feel free to add to this): 1) Why did Splinter and Cabot hesitate to hammer the vote on Blarg? Now with a confirmed Mafia flip, this looks all-the-more suspicious. 2) Why did Gorlak decide to hammer the vote? 3) Why did Blarg hesitate to join our plan to drive the vote on Splinter? Was it an act, or did he and Kawl coordinate with others in Mafia chat? 4) Why did we manage to drive so many votes onto Splinter in so little time? Did Mafia jump on that bandwagon to try to save Blarg? 5) Of the players who voted on Splinter, which ones jumped ship from Blarg, vs. not having a vote to start? OK lets go down the list 1) Splinter plays really traditionally, and doesn't like it when people mess with the amount of time he has to play ( I think its part of where Chucklefucks came from in DGRonpa, we started messing with tied votes and turboing). No clue on Cabot. In my opinion if there is less than 24 hours left, and we reach majority it just means that we have a consensus. 2) Gorlak and Launch are both teammates and they drove the final nail in the coffin. I think they discussed it in their team chat and flipped accordingly. They were the last two votes for any player that day phase. The way they posted and finised it, I would almost use this as confirmation of town chat (as opposed to a larger group mafia chat), they clearly talked to each other and voted when they came back from Outer Gafia. 3) I think that is part of it, and Blarg is also in EU, so when we were hammering the vote to switch it was 1-2am his time. He might have actually needed the rest to sleep and work up a plan of attack. Definately part of it was coordination (did not want scum to seem too eager and rock the boat). 4)I have no idea. It all started with the *Splinter self vote and *splinter leaving the argument instead of having it. All because he didn't want to turbo (which was the correct call). It was like the last hour dogpile But with 24 hours left to play... 5) Kawl (obviously). everyone that voted for *splinter and Cabot were previous voters. The unaffliated added their votes to Blarg. That's why I am thinking the flip floppers were potentially scum. People like Ultraboo. Karu's team could also be scum (only person to have a vote and not be on one of the main two targets). |
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 27, 2016 9:03:30 GMT -8
You have 24 hours to submit your night action.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 27, 2016 10:31:38 GMT -8
What do you think?
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Post by karkador on Feb 27, 2016 11:24:57 GMT -8
Another thought, maybe they have some sort of "rug sweeper" ability, that removes a player completely from the game at death (some of the games in season 4 & 4.5 had them) its not Madness or terrible, but it does punish those who are not paying attention. If the vote had flipped on timeflux or *splinter, we could have been shuffled under a rug (death with no role reveal), and then we magically only have one tracker again... Looking again at NeverTim's role flip, the ability to block ANY target once + the flavor of "one true pair" does kinda suggest that there might be something strong like that. |
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Post by karkador on Feb 27, 2016 12:00:48 GMT -8
Alright, I think Boo is a good bet. They did a similar thing as Blarg & Kawl, which is to split their votes on two pairs by the end of D2. Similarly, Coppa&Flame split on D1, then converged on Splinter on d2.
I'm a little unsure if Splinter / cabot are truly scum, but we're gonna have to push and find out in d3, if we survive.
Karu/Dusk Soldier and Kyanrute/Retroid also seem shady.
I think, if Boo&Jay are scum, they might be the ones they send out on the kill tonight. Them, or Coppa Flame (though, less of a scum indication from them)
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 27, 2016 17:15:57 GMT -8
I like where your head is on your reads.
Ultraboo it is.
[highlight]binoculars: ultrajay & boo boo'n [/highlight]
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 27, 2016 17:16:17 GMT -8
And highlight tags don't work on GAFia..
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Post by karkador on Feb 27, 2016 20:30:37 GMT -8
Small aside: I met your Danganronpa companion Makai at a local GAF meetup tonight. Seemed like a nice guy. I always thought he had more of an attitude, based on what I remember from the games.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Feb 27, 2016 21:52:25 GMT -8
Local GAF Meetups? Sounds awesome! I don't think we have them in Memphis, TN.
I imagine most of us GAFia types are easy to get along with.
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 28, 2016 0:08:31 GMT -8
Command received.
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 28, 2016 9:02:51 GMT -8
NIGHT 2 TRACKING RESULTS
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 28, 2016 9:05:38 GMT -8
ANNOUNCEMENT!
Suddenly, your private chat was filled with the loudest of noises, and you were not able to even hear, what the other was even saying. It was impossible to communicate privately no, as sad as that was...
You cannot use your lover chat during the next day and night phase, this chat will be locked until then. Please do not communicate privately at all about the game, if you do, it will be seen as rulebreaking.
ANNOUNCEMENT!
EXTRA NOTE: As you can submit a night action, the one who is listed first in your pair shall be the one who will submit the night action to me next night. In this case, it's Karkador.
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 6, 2016 9:00:04 GMT -8
Your Lover's Chat has been opened once again  . |
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 6, 2016 9:01:59 GMT -8
NIGHT 3 TRACKING RESULTS
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Post by karkador on Mar 6, 2016 9:09:41 GMT -8
Zipped! We're finally back. That was an agonizing decision to make.
However, I have an idea for today, should we survive (lol). If you're ready for one last gambit.
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Post by karkador on Mar 6, 2016 9:58:03 GMT -8
Let's keep the result quiet for now.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 6, 2016 10:09:39 GMT -8
Ok, we can keep it quiet, but why Ty4on? I'm assuming you looked at them due to him not due to hobo. Hobo hasn't done much...
I had tried to breadcrumb a no use, but I understand using it. If we die we learn nothing,
I also really don't understand how they haven't tried to kill us at night. I mean we practically asked for it saying we were "confirmed".
Honestly, I would think that we have a lot of people who have never played scum before. They had been relying on blarg and kawl to help out day 1 and 2, and now they are a little lost.
Launch and Gorlak getting Nk'ed makes sense. No danger during day and very helpful.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 6, 2016 10:09:56 GMT -8
Oh and gambit time? Yes!
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Post by karkador on Mar 6, 2016 10:48:53 GMT -8
I was juggling multiple options last night for whom to track:
1) I considered not using the power. It could be that we throw mafia off by not doing the expected. But if they were so worried about us, they'd probably just kill us.
2) I considered Launch and Gorlak. Was very close to picking them, because of their demeanor the entire game, and the vote history (hammering blarg, getting in first on flux). It made me wonder if they were playing "confidently stupid". Glad I didn't pick them.
3) I considered tracking Boo&Jay again. I was wondering if they simply didn't do whatever they can do last night. So many other things about them seem scummy, throughout the entire game thusfar. But it was risky if we jus got the same thing again. I thought I'd get yelled at, lol.
4) Finally, ty4on. His partners have been inactive, yes, but there are other behaviors. He seemed to be breadcrumb a targeting ability. He seemed to be 'helpful', including the stuff from Sophia. But a lot of it was just pointing people towards nothing. He also seemed defensive about Blarg's tracker claim, saying stuff live "just let them do their tracker thing and get us results".
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