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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:28:32 GMT -8
Its revealed on my flip too? I didnt see a difference, and depending what other Mice know, it might help in the short term. Everyone wants an easy lynch anyway. Im just investing way too much time and emotion on this for absolutely no gain. It's extremely frustrating to be punished for contributing while inactives slip through. Oh, are you a sure flip now? There's a bit of a difference. It's an unneeded claim. Xam's was worse, by far but this isn't even about a policy lynch so this is fuel to the fire more than anything else.
Its fairly obvious in my read list.
Not seeing it, point out how it's "obvious"
People must share spirit animals or what is the point? I actually think we can break this game with a mass claim, but ive hated winning that way in past games.
Scum wants to know our animals, mass claim everyone!
ok.gif You're not really this dumb are you? I have like 20 minutes of lunch left. Look at my read on scrafty and you. |
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:30:10 GMT -8
Also consider my sudden reverse on you today. I've been angling to get NK'd but town seems insistent on getting it done sooner.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:30:37 GMT -8
Better me than a real cop.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:30:45 GMT -8
I've noticed that we are near opposite in our views, one of your posts from last night made this clear and I was going to comment but I got distracted by a different post and it wasn't an important point in all honesty. Scrafty is mostly gut, I'll be real. I have to trust some people and Scrafty, cabot, and Kawl have all seemed to be very in depth in scum huting, right or wrong, they actually seem to be trying to solve a mystery, Darryl as well in all honesty but more so day 1 than day 2 for some reason (I've considered he may have gotten recruited, it's possible but not something I want to tail today). For now, that's enough for me to trust them. I have plenty of people I do not trust so anything I can do for now to limit the field helps. Any specific posts by Scrafty that stuck out? All of these in one form or the other: Cleavage, I cleavage there are around 6, cleavage 7. Eyes up, luv. I have no real issues with Kalor getting knocked off this evening, but we should certainly keep in mind the individuals who are defending him today, as it may reveal additional information if he flips. It's as good a lead as any at this early phase in the proceedings, in any natter. Cor, you lot sure do natter on whenever I turn my back. I am against giving Sorian the ol' helter-skelter tonight, just because I feel like there's a good deal more we can learn from him and his role before offing him permanently. On the other hand, I do believe that Castamere is acting rather suspicious at the moment, even providing an excuse for why he won't be dead tonight. He's not necessarily one of those horrid rabble-rousers we've got to put in the ground but it's something we should watch out for nevertheless, luvs. There is a pretty big coincidence regarding my role pm. That is all I will say about it for now for obvious reasons, but it did made me think that the role pm's weren't fully RNG'd, at least for mine. Also, thanks for making the day 9 thing clear before it became a topic of discussion. I was giving this idear further thought, and I think it almost certainly holds water. Mine also seems like it's too fitting to be a coincidence, and while that may mean nothing at all it should still be something we keep in mind. I still believe that Castamere is aware of more than he's letting on but it doesn't look as though he's arsed to talk much so I'll switch targets to another suspicious individual that I would be comfortable giving the drop today. VOTE: XamthekingWhat others have said about your peculiar behaviour is spot-on, but I'd like to raise another line of inquiry as well, luv. Why do you list crimsonfist, Squidy and Castamere among your top town? Do you have justification for those or are you simply throwing out names to get in their good graces? Nin still hasn't shown up yet. What an absolute bother. If I were to designate the lot I believe to be most unscrupulous, I would probably say nin, ridli, and Terra. Nin I've already explained partially but when going over his dialogue from yesterday, he struck me as someone willing to coast by without taking a side (a stance characterized by his lack of vote). Ridli is someone who strikes me as being more knowledgeable than he lets on. Whether he's a Talented Mr. Ridli or simply riffraff is yet to be seen, but I do wish to see how he acts under pressure. Terra's last-minute vote swap and general contentedness to follow along with the most popular opinion (e.g. voting for Sorian out of nowhere with inadequate explanation before switching to myself and then zipped in turn) puts a rather disturbing feeling in my tummy, and I'm not sure what could resolve it but more information. Are they all particularly good conclusions? Not at all, evidenced by the LoC flip but this reads like someone trying to make sense of the situation, not someone who is faking it or knows the answer. That's my read at least, it's an opinion and like I said, it's more gut than anything else. I just looked at her post history again, she has parroted a lot, usually after she has run out of leads but this doesn't seem like scum Scrafty to me. |
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:31:22 GMT -8
I've certainly seen town get frustrated before and blow up like this, but I'm not sure if I believe rid here. He's claiming to be knowledgeable about mafia then he should know claiming and even hinting at a pr when you have none is not helpful.
Rid who do you find suspicious besides tb?
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 10:31:44 GMT -8
Yeah, I haven't seen anything to suggest that knowing one spirit animal could hurt others that share it yet. If that turns out correct, might be worth looking back at Roy. Well, Sorian proposed that theory. That doesn't make it fact, but I currently see 0 potential benefit in claiming your animal, so why take the risk in the chance it could indeed hurt people with the same animal? |
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:32:38 GMT -8
Wait, just remember he posted reads earlier. Who is #2 scum I should ask, rid?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:34:17 GMT -8
Oh, are you a sure flip now? There's a bit of a difference. It's an unneeded claim. Xam's was worse, by far but this isn't even about a policy lynch so this is fuel to the fire more than anything else.
Not seeing it, point out how it's "obvious"
Scum wants to know our animals, mass claim everyone!
ok.gif You're not really this dumb are you? I have like 20 minutes of lunch left. Look at my read on scrafty and you. lol, what? Because you used the words "cop" and "investigate" Ok, sure, those are breadcrumbs placed after you sold yourself as 100% expendable so I don't know why you would expect anyone to take much from it. Even worse (and this is a personal one to me), generally, telling someone else to go find your breadcrumbs instead of just showing them when prompted is just asking for someone to help you out of a situation. |
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:34:38 GMT -8
I've certainly seen town get frustrated before and blow up like this, but I'm not sure if I believe rid here. He's claiming to be knowledgeable about mafia then he should know claiming and even hinting at a pr when you have none is not helpful. Rid who do you find suspicious besides tb? Did you miss my entire read list? I'd currently put Sorian back in the pile of scum. More and more i think he's neutral with an agenda, and that agenda includes controlling information. I think most of what he said yesterday is true, but he's leaving out crucial info as well, and blaming it on his role. |
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:34:57 GMT -8
Oh, are you a sure flip now? There's a bit of a difference. It's an unneeded claim. Xam's was worse, by far but this isn't even about a policy lynch so this is fuel to the fire more than anything else.
Not seeing it, point out how it's "obvious"
Scum wants to know our animals, mass claim everyone!
ok.gif You're not really this dumb are you? I have like 20 minutes of lunch left. Look at my read on scrafty and you. Let's not name call. I know you're frustrated but this is just a game. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 12, 2016 10:38:21 GMT -8
Ridli, luv, let me put it this way:
Claiming ordinary on the same day that Xam has been accosted for doing just that is incredibly stupid. But I don't think you're stupid, luv. Quite the opposite, in fact. I think you're bluffing and chuffing and all that nonsense to appear as though you're as mousey as you claim to be.
So don't take it personally when people are suspicious, luv. They're just calling your bluff.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:39:09 GMT -8
You're not really this dumb are you? I have like 20 minutes of lunch left. Look at my read on scrafty and you. lol, what? Because you used the words "cop" and "investigate" Ok, sure, those are breadcrumbs placed after you sold yourself as 100% expendable so I don't know why you would expect anyone to take much from it. Even worse (and this is a personal one to me), generally, telling someone else to go find your breadcrumbs instead of just showing them when prompted is just asking for someone to help you out of a situation. No, what it makes me think is that you didn't bother to read my list cause you don't really care who is scum or town. Good luck fighting with the inactives though! RIP Reepicheep! |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:44:50 GMT -8
lol, what? Because you used the words "cop" and "investigate" Ok, sure, those are breadcrumbs placed after you sold yourself as 100% expendable so I don't know why you would expect anyone to take much from it. Even worse (and this is a personal one to me), generally, telling someone else to go find your breadcrumbs instead of just showing them when prompted is just asking for someone to help you out of a situation. No, what it makes me think is that you didn't bother to read my list cause you don't really care who is scum or town. Good luck fighting with the inactives though! RIP Reepicheep! I don't read reads list to pick out possible bread crumbs. People can use the words investigate and the phrase "cop out" without me thinking they are an important PR. I read your reads list for information and thoughts. A lot of your list was standard information that everyone was saying. The only real unique things were Mazre's entry which he responded to and he is right, you tried to present (purposely or not) a factually incorrect argument and Squidy where most people find him scummy but you find him town. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 12, 2016 10:46:13 GMT -8
Ridli, just to clarify, the original point of my suspicion is this post: gafia.boards.net/post/16817 This isn't going after you for speculation, it's going after you for saying that stuff which we didn't know was "obvious." The speculation was something in addition that caught my eye when I was looking back later. You haven't clarified or tried to defend this point, despite me quoting it and throwing a vote on it on day 1, so you should have at least noticed me highlighting it at that point, and if it was a legitimate oversight, I'd have thought that you would have done so at that point. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 12, 2016 10:47:02 GMT -8
*was "common sense"
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 12, 2016 10:47:04 GMT -8
You said earlier that you weren't new to forum Mafia, yet this doesn't add up with your actions.
I had the sense not to reveal my Animal, at least.
Vote: Ridli
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:47:55 GMT -8
Apologies for name calling Sorian! I'm upset but thats still uncalled for. Sorry to disappoint you town. I just didn't see any way to be useful at that juncture.
No hard feelings. Ill be back for more games.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:49:30 GMT -8
That's 6 votes? Don't be surprised if I unvote if this pile continues. We are already at an information disadvantage with the volcano non-sense, we shouldn't be ending the day early even if we think this is the right decision.
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:50:18 GMT -8
I think I'm okay with keeping my vote here, my only concern is if he really is town we'll have learned nothing. Scum can jump on / avoid the vote all they want, doesn't matter.
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:50:50 GMT -8
That's 6 votes? Don't be surprised if I unvote if this pile continues. We are already at an information disadvantage with the volcano non-sense, we shouldn't be ending the day early even if we think this is the right decision. This too. |
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 12, 2016 10:52:20 GMT -8
Apologies for name calling Sorian! I'm upset but thats still uncalled for. Sorry to disappoint you town. I just didn't see any way to be useful at that juncture. No hard feelings. Ill be back for more games. If you want to be useful, generate a detailed read list |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:55:55 GMT -8
Apologies for name calling Sorian! I'm upset but thats still uncalled for. Sorry to disappoint you town. I just didn't see any way to be useful at that juncture. No hard feelings. Ill be back for more games. If you want to be useful, generate a detailed read list Something something pot and kettle something |
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 11:01:55 GMT -8
Apologies for name calling Sorian! I'm upset but thats still uncalled for. Sorry to disappoint you town. I just didn't see any way to be useful at that juncture. No hard feelings. Ill be back for more games. If you want to be useful, generate a detailed read list Sorry, it took me like 2 hours to do the previous one and barely anything has changed anyway. I need more solid info before i can really figure any connections out. |
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 12, 2016 11:05:18 GMT -8
Ridli's new player stuff being a fabrication makes the apparent rage claim also really ring false to me. Someone who suggests enough experience to say "I actually think we can break this game with a mass claim, but ive hated winning that way in past games" suggests enough experience to know not to claim like that, were one actually town.
But yeah, we can let him stay as the top candidate for awhile and talk through the rest of the day.
Xam remain quite high on my list after that claim for no reason. Can't think why a townie would do that, but it might make sense for Scum to preempt stuff in that manner and use the towns panic to find scum after the massacre to skate by without taking what many would see as a policy lynch.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 11:40:51 GMT -8
Hmm, this is annoying, it's killed the flow for the day.
Ridli's new player stuff being a fabrication makes the apparent rage claim also really ring false to me. Someone who suggests enough experience to say "I actually think we can break this game with a mass claim, but ive hated winning that way in past games" suggests enough experience to know not to claim like that, were one actually town. But yeah, we can let him stay as the top candidate for awhile and talk through the rest of the day. Xam remain quite high on my list after that claim for no reason. Can't think why a townie would do that, but it might make sense for Scum to preempt stuff in that manner and use the towns panic to find scum after the massacre to skate by without taking what many would see as a policy lynch. The last part of your post about Xam, I admit that we can't really consider a policy lynch at this time because all we have is one night of data and there were 9 deaths but that would be a short sighted plan unless tonight was going to be just as deadly. If town ends up swinging even one scum lynch, the policy lynch discussion could come up again assuming much less night death.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 12, 2016 12:00:34 GMT -8
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Post by squidyj on Jan 12, 2016 12:50:50 GMT -8
hmmmmm. hm
my name is not on that list as a vote.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 12, 2016 12:51:42 GMT -8
VOTE: Ty4on
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 12:52:41 GMT -8
hmmmmm. hm my name is not on that list as a vote. Hmm, you're right. You were voting for Corn earlier from the looks of things. Why the switch to Ty4on? |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 12:53:32 GMT -8
Splinter, you have my vote for dusk as dusk voting for me on that list.
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