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Post by Splinter on Jan 12, 2016 9:32:58 GMT -8
On a related note, vote spreadsheet and vote updates wil be improved in time for next day end.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 12, 2016 9:35:06 GMT -8
ty4on, go make a Python script to count the votes on OG Remember to use the Tab key (Jokes)
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 12, 2016 9:50:22 GMT -8
nin, yesterday you stated scrafty and LoC's engagement was fake and now you are just saying it's scrafty? You have nothing to add? For someone who says they feel bad for missing out on so much, you sure are adding nothing. Vote: nin1000 Well after thinking about it I am inclined to believe that it was not fake, since I did not know that he was a town. So I still feel that way yes.
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 12, 2016 9:53:30 GMT -8
I'd like to hear nin's thoughts on kawl, ridli, and squid. I don't know what to make out of kawl since he reacted more than he did his own thinking. Ridli is all over the place, could be worrying on the long run. And squid, I don't really have a graph on him. Will put down better thoughts on those players later on.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 12, 2016 9:56:26 GMT -8
I do want to say that even though I am not scum, I don't think those who are voting menare. I have been kinda(read:VERY) non-commital and passive this game, something I'm trying to remedy.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 9:57:51 GMT -8
I do want to say that even though I am not scum, I don't think those who are voting menare. I have been kinda(read:VERY) non-commital and passive this game, something I'm trying to remedy. Understatement of the year. The only reason I don't want the house crashing down on you is because I think there are better targets.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:00:18 GMT -8
Holy shit i think I'm just flat out done. If i speculate, I'm scum, if i hunt for scum, I'm scum, and if i defend myself, I'm scum. I tried to help town by hinting at a power role to draw fire. Thought for sure Sorian would catch on but he's tunneling in too hard and has lost sight completely and now a bunch of other scummy/lazy players have latched on.
I'm just ordinary. My spirit animal is the Mouse. When i flip, remember who attacked me for speculating and ask yourself why they want to keep game mechanics concealed.
I've done everything I can to help town otherwise. To my fellow mouseketeers, I'm sorry if claiming hurts you. Good luck!
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 12, 2016 10:06:07 GMT -8
Very well.
VOTE: ridli
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 10:10:17 GMT -8
Holy shit i think I'm just flat out done. If i speculate, I'm scum, if i hunt for scum, I'm scum, and if i defend myself, I'm scum. I tried to help town by hinting at a power role to draw fire. Thought for sure Sorian would catch on but he's tunneling in too hard and has lost sight completely and now a bunch of other scummy/lazy players have latched on. I'm just ordinary. My spirit animal is the Mouse. When i flip, remember who attacked me for speculating and ask yourself why they want to keep game mechanics concealed. I've done everything I can to help town otherwise. To my fellow mouseketeers, I'm sorry if claiming hurts you. Good luck!So because you are done with this game, you decide to claim your spirit animal while that could hurt people with the same animal as you that DO actually still want to play. That a really fucked up thing to do.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:13:02 GMT -8
lol, I was trying to think of a proper response to that post.
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I'm sorry Ridli, I don't want to be over sarcastic but I don't believe you. Your presumed defenses have missed the point. You keep trying to over correct based on feedback. That could be a scum or town mistake though. Here's where it falls a part for me. Please, enlighten me where you tried to make yourself out to be a PR because I don't see it. In fact, I get the feeling people thought the opposite, you wanted to "sacrifice" yourself with me in the double lynch yesterday. "Lynch me and Sorian please" Why was that? It was a foolish plan and it's obvious no one would do it but what was the purpose of that post? That's not hinting at a PR, that's not drawing a NK, you're lying.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 12, 2016 10:15:21 GMT -8
ty4on, go make a Python script to count the votes on OG Remember to use the Tab key (Jokes) I'd love to have the knowledge to do this. I spend ages figuring out how to phrase GAF posts for an unrelated project. Note to self, never try using C for that again. I'm studying Python this semester, but I doubt there'll be anything web related. One thing I find a bit odd, but it could be confirmation bias. Sorian, I disagree a lot with you, but I don't see a lot of justification of your viewpoints in return. A lot of your views (Scrafty as town especially) I have a hard time of finding reasonings for.
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Post by cabot on Jan 12, 2016 10:15:22 GMT -8
People have the same spirit animal? When was this a theory?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:15:31 GMT -8
Saying nothing happened doesn't get across the key pieces of information I had to deliver: There are multiple scum factions. Our spirit animals are in groupings, not pairs and not individuals. Don't talk about your spirit animal and treat it like you would treat an important PR. Wouldn't key information, by definition, have been in the OP? And I know the answer is going to be that you were frustrated with PRs having info so let me quote this too. You seem to be more experienced than you let on. What is this post? You didn't need my mafia 101 lesson, you know the game. There was some acting going on.
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 10:15:38 GMT -8
Not helpful at all if you really are town, rid
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:16:08 GMT -8
People have the same spirit animal? When was this a theory? That is information from me. Up to you if you want to believe me or not but yes, there is overlap in spirit animals.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:16:21 GMT -8
Holy shit i think I'm just flat out done. If i speculate, I'm scum, if i hunt for scum, I'm scum, and if i defend myself, I'm scum. I tried to help town by hinting at a power role to draw fire. Thought for sure Sorian would catch on but he's tunneling in too hard and has lost sight completely and now a bunch of other scummy/lazy players have latched on. I'm just ordinary. My spirit animal is the Mouse. When i flip, remember who attacked me for speculating and ask yourself why they want to keep game mechanics concealed. I've done everything I can to help town otherwise. To my fellow mouseketeers, I'm sorry if claiming hurts you. Good luck!So because you are done with this game, you decide to claim your spirit animal while that could hurt people with the same animal as you that DO actually still want to play. That a really fucked up thing to do. Its revealed on my flip too? I didnt see a difference, and depending what other Mice know, it might help in the short term. Everyone wants an easy lynch anyway. Im just investing way too much time and emotion on this for absolutely no gain. It's extremely frustrating to be punished for contributing while inactives slip through.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:18:42 GMT -8
lol, I was trying to think of a proper response to that post.
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I'm sorry Ridli, I don't want to be over sarcastic but I don't believe you. Your presumed defenses have missed the point. You keep trying to over correct based on feedback. That could be a scum or town mistake though. Here's where it falls a part for me. Please, enlighten me where you tried to make yourself out to be a PR because I don't see it. In fact, I get the feeling people thought the opposite, you wanted to "sacrifice" yourself with me in the double lynch yesterday. "Lynch me and Sorian please" Why was that? It was a foolish plan and it's obvious no one would do it but what was the purpose of that post? That's not hinting at a PR, that's not drawing a NK, you're lying.
Its fairly obvious in my read list.
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Post by Kawl on Jan 12, 2016 10:19:31 GMT -8
So because you are done with this game, you decide to claim your spirit animal while that could hurt people with the same animal as you that DO actually still want to play. That a really fucked up thing to do. Its revealed on my flip too? I didnt see a difference, and depending what other Mice know, it might help in the short term. Everyone wants an easy lynch anyway. Im just investing way too much time and emotion on this for absolutely no gain. It's extremely frustrating to be punished for contributing while inactives slip through. It's still pretty early in the day dude. By no means were you a sure lynch, and now if you don't get lunched and scum are looking for particular animals you've just given them extra info for no reason. Besides being in the spotlight is all in the fun of mafia, no pressure is boring.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:20:23 GMT -8
People have the same spirit animal? When was this a theory? People must share spirit animals or what is the point? I actually think we can break this game with a mass claim, but ive hated winning that way in past games.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:20:25 GMT -8
ty4on, go make a Python script to count the votes on OG Remember to use the Tab key (Jokes) I'd love to have the knowledge to do this. I spend ages figuring out how to phrase GAF posts for an unrelated project. Note to self, never try using C for that again. I'm studying Python this semester, but I doubt there'll be anything web related. One thing I find a bit odd, but it could be confirmation bias. Sorian, I disagree a lot with you, but I don't see a lot of justification of your viewpoints in return. A lot of your views (Scrafty as town especially) I have a hard time of finding reasonings for. I've noticed that we are near opposite in our views, one of your posts from last night made this clear and I was going to comment but I got distracted by a different post and it wasn't an important point in all honesty. Scrafty is mostly gut, I'll be real. I have to trust some people and Scrafty, cabot, and Kawl have all seemed to be very in depth in scum huting, right or wrong, they actually seem to be trying to solve a mystery, Darryl as well in all honesty but more so day 1 than day 2 for some reason (I've considered he may have gotten recruited, it's possible but not something I want to tail today). For now, that's enough for me to trust them. I have plenty of people I do not trust so anything I can do for now to limit the field helps.
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Post by cabot on Jan 12, 2016 10:20:33 GMT -8
People have the same spirit animal? When was this a theory? That is information from me. Up to you if you want to believe me or not but yes, there is overlap in spirit animals. Fair enough, like ridli says though, don't understand how it can damage other mouse players. Unless if a spirit animal player is NKed, it kills the others? that's the only thing that comes to my head right now, which would theoretically be dangerous to others. Seems far too powerful though.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:00 GMT -8
Its revealed on my flip too? I didnt see a difference, and depending what other Mice know, it might help in the short term. Everyone wants an easy lynch anyway. Im just investing way too much time and emotion on this for absolutely no gain. It's extremely frustrating to be punished for contributing while inactives slip through. It's still pretty early in the day dude. By no means were you a sure lynch, and now if you don't get lunched and scum are looking for particular animals you've just given them extra info for no reason. Besides being in the spotlight is all in the fun of mafia, no pressure is boring. Problem is when all accusations are catch 22s. I'm scum for speculating, but if i stop speculating, im back pedaling which is also scummy. So i'm done defending myself. Town is wasting too much time on it. Its time to lynch me or not, and move on to something more productive.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:24 GMT -8
I'd love to have the knowledge to do this. I spend ages figuring out how to phrase GAF posts for an unrelated project. Note to self, never try using C for that again. I'm studying Python this semester, but I doubt there'll be anything web related. One thing I find a bit odd, but it could be confirmation bias. Sorian, I disagree a lot with you, but I don't see a lot of justification of your viewpoints in return. A lot of your views (Scrafty as town especially) I have a hard time of finding reasonings for. I've noticed that we are near opposite in our views, one of your posts from last night made this clear and I was going to comment but I got distracted by a different post and it wasn't an important point in all honesty. Scrafty is mostly gut, I'll be real. I have to trust some people and Scrafty, cabot, and Kawl have all seemed to be very in depth in scum huting, right or wrong, they actually seem to be trying to solve a mystery, Darryl as well in all honesty but more so day 1 than day 2 for some reason (I've considered he may have gotten recruited, it's possible but not something I want to tail today). For now, that's enough for me to trust them. I have plenty of people I do not trust so anything I can do for now to limit the field helps. Any specific posts by Scrafty that stuck out?
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Post by Kawl on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:34 GMT -8
That is information from me. Up to you if you want to believe me or not but yes, there is overlap in spirit animals. Fair enough, like ridli says though, don't understand how it can damage other mouse players. Unless if a spirit animal player is NKed, it kills the others? that's the only thing that comes to my head right now, which would theoretically be dangerous to others. Seems far too powerful though. Something along the lines of evil mouse spirit gets powered up if they input NK against a mouse townie might be in the game and give a benefit without being broken.
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Post by cabot on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:41 GMT -8
ridli why did you claim just after I said why claiming early was bad if you're ordinary.
ugh
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:47 GMT -8
Yeah, I haven't seen anything to suggest that knowing one spirit animal could hurt others that share it yet. If that turns out correct, might be worth looking back at Roy.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:53 GMT -8
So because you are done with this game, you decide to claim your spirit animal while that could hurt people with the same animal as you that DO actually still want to play. That a really fucked up thing to do. Its revealed on my flip too? I didnt see a difference, and depending what other Mice know, it might help in the short term. Everyone wants an easy lynch anyway. Im just investing way too much time and emotion on this for absolutely no gain. It's extremely frustrating to be punished for contributing while inactives slip through. Oh, are you a sure flip now? There's a bit of a difference. It's an unneeded claim. Xam's was worse, by far but this isn't even about a policy lynch so this is fuel to the fire more than anything else.
Its fairly obvious in my read list.
Not seeing it, point out how it's "obvious"
People must share spirit animals or what is the point? I actually think we can break this game with a mass claim, but ive hated winning that way in past games.
Scum wants to know our animals, mass claim everyone!
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 10:24:16 GMT -8
That is information from me. Up to you if you want to believe me or not but yes, there is overlap in spirit animals. Fair enough, like ridli says though, don't understand how it can damage other mouse players. Unless if a spirit animal player is NKed, it kills the others? that's the only thing that comes to my head right now, which would theoretically be dangerous to others. Seems far too powerful though. All hidden lovers with no chat would be brutal.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 12, 2016 10:25:33 GMT -8
That is information from me. Up to you if you want to believe me or not but yes, there is overlap in spirit animals. Fair enough, like ridli says though, don't understand how it can damage other mouse players. Unless if a spirit animal player is NKed, it kills the others? that's the only thing that comes to my head right now, which would theoretically be dangerous to others. Seems far too powerful though. It shouldn't (I don't know all PRs in play of course so /shrug), I just know that scum teams are looking for particular animals. So they would know ridli's animal if he is telling the truth but I don't think you can glean information about other people with the animal.
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Post by Kawl on Jan 12, 2016 10:25:58 GMT -8
It's still pretty early in the day dude. By no means were you a sure lynch, and now if you don't get lunched and scum are looking for particular animals you've just given them extra info for no reason. Besides being in the spotlight is all in the fun of mafia, no pressure is boring. Problem is when all accusations are catch 22s. I'm scum for speculating, but if i stop speculating, im back pedaling which is also scummy. So i'm done defending myself. Town is wasting too much time on it. Its time to lynch me or not, and move on to something more productive. I mean welcome to mafia where everything is a scum tell to someone. If you are gonna defend, defend once and then move on to the scum hunting. If you are town you'll be vindicated if and when you eventually flip and then your reads might be given a bit more credence. Which is basically what you've down, except for the unnecessary claim.
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