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Post by ridli on Jan 11, 2016 15:39:47 GMT -8
Someone make me a volcano ridley avatar and ill use it.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 15:42:08 GMT -8
in part because of shit like this. That's how I play. I like to speculate. I think there IS meaning in the deaths that did and did not occur. Sure, there's no concrete answers there. But there's no concrete answers anywhere right now. you're leading us down a rabbit-hole of useless, time-wasting discussion. discussion of volcano deaths right now is a million layers of hypotheticals that abstract away from any meaningful insight, if f(x, y, z, w, a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j........) there are far too many variables and potential permutations to generate any reasonable discussion about the subject.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 15:43:00 GMT -8
That's dusk now actually, why I would prefer if people had real avatars. It does feel like the exact same argument though. Yeah, im still catching up but some fast points. Im basically treating like this like a new D1 of a 20ish player game. My reasoning for voting Sorian was much more solid than the other shitposts. Seeing that bullshit i probably would switched my vote yesterday cause i feel like some of them were scummy and just latching on. I dont currently intend to chase sorian again. Im amused that im now catching flak for guessing at some of the hidden game here when yesterday people were calling me a moron. Sorry people assumed I was a NEWBIE newbie and not just a gafia newbie. Dont cut me any breaks. That is all im going to say in my defense for that stuff. Better to spend my time hunting today rather than waste time on defense. Ill post some scum reads once im fully caught up. I feel like there should be an evil cackle in this post. So you presented yourself as someone new who had read a lot of our prior games but that wasn't the case? Why not be upfront with your experience if you were town. It can't be that easy but you being the only person who was incessant on using our double lynch yesterday is just another strike against you IMO.
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Post by ridli on Jan 11, 2016 15:43:10 GMT -8
Squidy seems awfully negative overall but i agree with the premise that investigating the deaths is an exercise in futility today. Unless we have fucking pathologists or something but that wont help anyone until tomorrow.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 11, 2016 15:45:47 GMT -8
Ok, people do need to start using avatars. I know we all have names but being so hard to distinguish is really unhelpful
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Post by ridli on Jan 11, 2016 15:45:56 GMT -8
Yeah, im still catching up but some fast points. Im basically treating like this like a new D1 of a 20ish player game. My reasoning for voting Sorian was much more solid than the other shitposts. Seeing that bullshit i probably would switched my vote yesterday cause i feel like some of them were scummy and just latching on. I dont currently intend to chase sorian again. Im amused that im now catching flak for guessing at some of the hidden game here when yesterday people were calling me a moron. Sorry people assumed I was a NEWBIE newbie and not just a gafia newbie. Dont cut me any breaks. That is all im going to say in my defense for that stuff. Better to spend my time hunting today rather than waste time on defense. Ill post some scum reads once im fully caught up. I feel like there should be an evil cackle in this post. So you presented yourself as someone new who had read a lot of our prior games but that wasn't the case? Why not be upfront with your experience if you were town. It can't be that easy but you being the only person who was incessant on using our double lynch yesterday is just another strike against you IMO. I think youre getting confirmation bias based on annoyance(possibly warranted) with me from yesterday. I didnt post about my experience cause nobody asked. Why waste my limited time on that?
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Post by ridli on Jan 11, 2016 15:46:59 GMT -8
Ok, people do need to start using avatars. I know we all have names but being so hard to distinguish is really unhelpful Ill fix it soon as i can. Sorry everyone!
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 15:47:11 GMT -8
Ok, people do need to start using avatars. I know we all have names but being so hard to distinguish is really unhelpful Says the guy who had no avatar in MGS and kept confusing me
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 11, 2016 15:47:25 GMT -8
Anyways, the more cabot posts the less I like him, the more Dusksoldier posts the more I'm sure I'll like him so please post more dusksoldier. Ridli is just like this guy, you know? cornb. Not entirely feeling like killing sorian today, there's still too much up in the air. The one thing I find troubling is that his role or role claim comes with an in-built defense against why he wouldn't be targeted by scum but this hasn't changed since last day. VOTE: Cornb This entire paragraph "The more Dusksoldier posts the more I'm sure I'll like him so please post more dusksoldier" While that could be interpreted as a joke, immediately following this, we've got the classic "Ridli is just like this guy, you know?" which begs for more explanation. And you just say "cornb" by itself I need some answers, dawg Also, why the Hex shit yesterday?
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Post by Splinter on Jan 11, 2016 15:50:25 GMT -8
Ok, people do need to start using avatars. I know we all have names but being so hard to distinguish is really unhelpful Says the guy who had no avatar in MGS and kept confusing me
Not entirely unintentional, precisely why I'm requesting people don't do it here
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 15:52:49 GMT -8
I feel like there should be an evil cackle in this post. So you presented yourself as someone new who had read a lot of our prior games but that wasn't the case? Why not be upfront with your experience if you were town. It can't be that easy but you being the only person who was incessant on using our double lynch yesterday is just another strike against you IMO. I think youre getting confirmation bias based on annoyance(possibly warranted) with me from yesterday. I didnt post about my experience cause nobody asked. Why waste my limited time on that? Ignoring the fact that time isn't limited considering we are on a message board and there is plenty of retail. I'll just outright say there was some dishonesty here and I can't see any reason for it because you did indeed speak of experience without being prompted: So, with the risk of sounding really really dumb, who is ridli actually? Never seen him on neogaf... I feel like Roy is acting intentionally scummy...like he wants the attention on himself. Not ruling out a jester type role since this is a bastard game after all. Ah well, will explain my vote more later tonight. VOTE: Roytheone hi! I've been lurking the Mafia games on GAF. It's taught me a lot of things player's shouldn't do.Someone reading this post would think that all you've learned is from reading us play and mixed in with some of the things you had said after day start, I think you were hamming up the newbie angle a bit much. While I was doing a re-read of the thread this morning, I saw a few posts from you that I don't think I had attributed to you the first time through and you started seeming a lot more experienced than you let on. I just find it telling that you went from innocent "what do you guys think? Double lynch would probably be good today right?" to "I bet we have multiple scum teams, this seems like that type of game." You weren't exactly passive either, you seemed to be the only one interested in double lynching and even with continual push back, you kept brining up the idea. I said that was a point in your favor yesterday but I said that while thinking you were an inexperienced player. I've had to re-evaluate a bit and something stinks.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 15:52:55 GMT -8
why not hex shit yesterday?
Please post more dusksoldier wasn't a joke I honestly want him to post more so that I have more to work with. I got the feeling that he might be trying to skate by without posting much of anything, I mean he might post a lot and I'll decide that he's scum, but that might not happen. As for ridli I was merely trying to express that I have a null read on him at the moment. cornb follows from my dislike yesterday.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 11, 2016 15:53:06 GMT -8
Nin still hasn't shown up yet. What an absolute bother.
If I were to designate the lot I believe to be most unscrupulous, I would probably say nin, ridli, and Terra. Nin I've already explained partially but when going over his dialogue from yesterday, he struck me as someone willing to coast by without taking a side (a stance characterized by his lack of vote).
Ridli is someone who strikes me as being more knowledgeable than he lets on. Whether he's a Talented Mr. Ridli or simply riffraff is yet to be seen, but I do wish to see how he acts under pressure.
Terra's last-minute vote swap and general contentedness to follow along with the most popular opinion (e.g. voting for Sorian out of nowhere with inadequate explanation before switching to myself and then zipped in turn) puts a rather disturbing feeling in my tummy, and I'm not sure what could resolve it but more information.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 15:54:47 GMT -8
Wait terra's in this game? :/
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 15:55:34 GMT -8
Nin still hasn't shown up yet. What an absolute bother. If I were to designate the lot I believe to be most unscrupulous, I would probably say nin, ridli, and Terra. Nin I've already explained partially but when going over his dialogue from yesterday, he struck me as someone willing to coast by without taking a side (a stance characterized by his lack of vote). Ridli is someone who strikes me as being more knowledgeable than he lets on. Whether he's a Talented Mr. Ridli or simply riffraff is yet to be seen, but I do wish to see how he acts under pressure. Terra's last-minute vote swap and general contentedness to follow along with the most popular opinion (e.g. voting for Sorian out of nowhere with inadequate explanation before switching to myself and then zipped in turn) puts a rather disturbing feeling in my tummy, and I'm not sure what could resolve it but more information. To keep the record straight, I don't think Terra ever voted for you, he went straight from me to Zipped. He also asked me permission to sheep my vote which I still find extremely weird but he was not secretive in the fact that he wanted to bandwagon, take that how you will.
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Post by ridli on Jan 11, 2016 15:56:42 GMT -8
Wait terra's in this game? :/ I think we all have big blind spots right. I suggest writing the list of survivors and see how many make you shocked that theyre in the game.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 15:58:21 GMT -8
Current Player List:01 [m] Blargonaut02 [m] Cabot 03 [m] Coppanuva 04 [m] CornBro 05 [m] CrimsonFist 06 [m] CzarTim 07 [m] Dusk Soldier 08 [m] Hyperactivity09 [m] Kalor10 [m] Karu11 [m] Kawl_USC 12 [m] LaunchpadMcQ13 [m] Lone Prodigy14 [m] Lord of Castamere15 [m] Mazre 16 [m] nin1000 17 [m] ridli 18 [m] Pop-O-Matic19 [m] roytheone 20 [f] Sawneeks21 [f] ScraftyDevil 22 [m] Sorian 23 [m] squidyj 24 [f] Swamped25 [m] Terrabyte20xx 26 [f] Trigger 27 [m] Ty4on 28 [m] ultron87 29 [m] Xamtheking 30 [m] zippedpinhead31 [m] Bombay DAY 10 ENDS IN Just so everyone is on the same page. 20 people left.
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 11, 2016 15:59:29 GMT -8
Wait terra's in this game? :/ Sort of? I still want an answer from him on it. I'm willing to accept Xam's for the time being, but I want Terra to answer the same question I raised of him. Oh and for the sake of me using my vote and getting an answer when he finally shows up (OMG MY FIRST VOTE!) print "Vote: Terrabyte20xx"
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 11, 2016 15:59:30 GMT -8
why not hex shit yesterday? Because it's in direct violation of Rule 27? What caused you to break a rule for nothing more than your enjoyment?
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 11, 2016 16:00:12 GMT -8
Nin still hasn't shown up yet. What an absolute bother. If I were to designate the lot I believe to be most unscrupulous, I would probably say nin, ridli, and Terra. Nin I've already explained partially but when going over his dialogue from yesterday, he struck me as someone willing to coast by without taking a side (a stance characterized by his lack of vote). Ridli is someone who strikes me as being more knowledgeable than he lets on. Whether he's a Talented Mr. Ridli or simply riffraff is yet to be seen, but I do wish to see how he acts under pressure. Terra's last-minute vote swap and general contentedness to follow along with the most popular opinion (e.g. voting for Sorian out of nowhere with inadequate explanation before switching to myself and then zipped in turn) puts a rather disturbing feeling in my tummy, and I'm not sure what could resolve it but more information. To keep the record straight, I don't think Terra ever voted for you, he went straight from me to Zipped. He also asked me permission to sheep my vote which I still find extremely weird but he was not secretive in the fact that he wanted to bandwagon, take that how you will. Indeed, it was Xam who switched from me to Zipped. My apologies, luv. Announcing a suspicious action does not make said action more suspicious, in my humble opinion. He still looks to be a person of interest, albeit one of lower priority than the other two candidates I suggested.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 16:05:04 GMT -8
why not hex shit yesterday? Because it's in direct violation of Rule 27? What caused you to break a rule for nothing more than your enjoyment? Freedom. the glorious freedom of being able to use tags. If you think I care about the rules I so strongly disagree with then you are mistaken. I also jaywalk and tear the tags off my mattresses.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 11, 2016 16:06:10 GMT -8
Because it's in direct violation of Rule 27? What caused you to break a rule for nothing more than your enjoyment? Freedom. the glorious freedom of being able to use tags. If you think I care about the rules I so strongly disagree with then you are mistaken. I also jaywalk and tear the tags off my mattresses. You are following the #1 Rule of Gafia, I admit "Never read the OP"
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Post by cornb on Jan 11, 2016 16:06:16 GMT -8
That's how I play. I like to speculate. I think there IS meaning in the deaths that did and did not occur. Sure, there's no concrete answers there. But there's no concrete answers anywhere right now. you're leading us down a rabbit-hole of useless, time-wasting discussion. discussion of volcano deaths right now is a million layers of hypotheticals that abstract away from any meaningful insight, if f(x, y, z, w, a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j........) there are far too many variables and potential permutations to generate any reasonable discussion about the subject. I'm providing posts for people to analyze if they wish, and something to discuss if they wish. There's going to be millions of hypotheticals no matter what we discuss. How about this. My discussion about the Volcano and Night deaths (rabbit hole of useless discussion) led me to voting for Czartim. Feel free to discuss that. Or you know, bring up something of your own to discuss.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 16:09:04 GMT -8
I've been discussing how I think your behaviour here is scummy, isn't that a discussion?
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Post by Mazre on Jan 11, 2016 16:09:23 GMT -8
Count me in the camp that sees little value in attempting to analyze the massacre soup that was last night. Doubly so for attempting to divine Splinter's intentions. The case against ridli is intriguing. Xam and Corn both fit the town playing poorly mold though as others have already stated we don't even know if we have the luxury of policy anymore. I'd probably class nin in the same group as Xam and Corn, I've got nothing solid against him but his play has certainly irritated me to this point. I feel like I need to take a second look at crimson and ultron, this is mostly likely just a consequence of the player count in the game.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 11, 2016 16:10:26 GMT -8
I've been discussing how I think your behaviour here is scummy, isn't that a discussion? If by "discuss" you mean "say less than 10 words about it" you've hit the mark
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 11, 2016 16:19:54 GMT -8
@ corn and sorian
I'm not really sure what to say here. I am absolutely town. I didn't put a lot of effort into the game day one for a variety of reasons both rl and not and to be frank, after last night, I doubt that changes. I'm still here and posting though. I'll be happy for you guys to see my flip to know that I genuinely thought policying blarg was the best option, so that when I do the same thing next game we're in together, everyone will know. I've seen him throw too many games for any positives he brings. It's not personal, I think he's hilarious, I just think it's best to remove him from the picture. I moved my vote at the end when no one wanted to go along. I've never been the player that votes a lot to apply pressure though. I rarely vote more than two - three people a day.
Corn, I'm not sure why people keep bringing woof 2 up as some great feat of mine, but I simply stated the obvious. The fact that the other townies didn't pick up on what happened says more about them than my hot skillz. Why scum didn't kill me, I have no idea. They also didn't kill as lot of other good / active players while some other non-entities died. But I don't understand your logic that I pushed blarg all day as scum just to nk him, like, what? I'd never nk blarg, that's a waste of a nk. And I'm not sure why pushing him during the day has anything to do with it. I was well aware it would be viewed as lazy / easy / scummy, yet I did it anyway because everything I said I believed, whether others agree or not.
Sorian, you pushing me all day yesterday felt lazy tbh. You were using incorrect meta and a lot of your points were factually incorrect. It seemed like you were using me as an easy punching bag when you usually push more people. I still don't think you are scum, but it was very frustrating having to reiterate points multiple times.
So like, unless someone has a specific issue I plan on spending my time today not defending myself. I think that was mistake yesterday, it felt like every other post I made yesterday was defending my 100% correct position on blarg.
I'd like to hear both of your opinions on nin and scrafty, as that's who I think are the best votes today.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 11, 2016 16:20:13 GMT -8
Count me in the camp that sees little value in attempting to analyze the massacre soup that was last night. Doubly so for attempting to divine Splinter's intentions. The case against ridli is intriguing. Xam and Corn both fit the town playing poorly mold though as others have already stated we don't even know if we have the luxury of policy anymore. I'd probably class nin in the same group as Xam and Corn, I've got nothing solid against him but his play has certainly irritated me to this point. I feel like I need to take a second look at crimson and ultron, this is mostly likely just a consequence of the player count in the game. I'm giving corn a pass because he seems to be back on track with Tim. It's a good lead IMO, maybe not better than ridli but it's there. I do agree though that I'm skeptical of how much that can be gleaned specifically from who is sitting in the pile.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 11, 2016 16:21:35 GMT -8
I think if Tim turns out to be anything it's going to be the case that Corn had information he's not sharing with us.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 11, 2016 16:22:29 GMT -8
Wait terra's in this game? :/ Sort of? I still want an answer from him on it. I'm willing to accept Xam's for the time being, but I want Terra to answer the same question I raised of him. Oh and for the sake of me using my vote and getting an answer when he finally shows up (OMG MY FIRST VOTE!) print "Vote: Terrabyte20xx" You forgot the semicolon
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