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Post by Kalor on Jan 9, 2016 11:24:25 GMT -8
None of them really stick out to me in particular but I need to reread from the start as everything has blurred together at some point. I remember suspecting Roy yesterday but I don't remember why. Scrafty doesn't strike me as suspicious but I understand the reasoning that other people have. I understand Roy, but do you have anything concrete with Scrafty? Roy posted this tip, but in the desktop version you can click the search button to get options to search for individual users' posts. It's been more a gut feeling for why I don't suspect Scrafty. The fact that she was okay with being lynched so that we can get more information doesn't read like something that the mafia would post. Especially this early in the day where the most votes someone has is 2/3. Sure I've seen mafia try to pull the "I'm okay with lynched" thing before but it's normally not this early. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 9, 2016 11:48:02 GMT -8
There is a pretty big coincidence regarding my role pm. That is all I will say about it for now for obvious reasons, but it did made me think that the role pm's weren't fully RNG'd, at least for mine. Also, thanks for making the day 9 thing clear before it became a topic of discussion. I was giving this idear further thought, and I think it almost certainly holds water. Mine also seems like it's too fitting to be a coincidence, and while that may mean nothing at all it should still be something we keep in mind. I still believe that Castamere is aware of more than he's letting on but it doesn't look as though he's arsed to talk much so I'll switch targets to another suspicious individual that I would be comfortable giving the drop today. VOTE: XamthekingWhat others have said about your peculiar behaviour is spot-on, but I'd like to raise another line of inquiry as well, luv. Why do you list crimsonfist, Squidy and Castamere among your top town? Do you have justification for those or are you simply throwing out names to get in their good graces? |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 11:50:48 GMT -8
I'll talk more about the secert things I know tomorrow. Probably...
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 9, 2016 11:51:42 GMT -8
#fightclub
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 11:57:17 GMT -8
There is a pretty big coincidence regarding my role pm. That is all I will say about it for now for obvious reasons, but it did made me think that the role pm's weren't fully RNG'd, at least for mine. Also, thanks for making the day 9 thing clear before it became a topic of discussion. I was giving this idear further thought, and I think it almost certainly holds water. Mine also seems like it's too fitting to be a coincidence, and while that may mean nothing at all it should still be something we keep in mind. I still believe that Castamere is aware of more than he's letting on but it doesn't look as though he's arsed to talk much so I'll switch targets to another suspicious individual that I would be comfortable giving the drop today. VOTE: XamthekingWhat others have said about your peculiar behaviour is spot-on, but I'd like to raise another line of inquiry as well, luv. Why do you list crimsonfist, Squidy and Castamere among your top town? Do you have justification for those or are you simply throwing out names to get in their good graces? Crimson is on my town list because of the talk about role pms earlier, Squidy is on there for 2 reasons, 1 being scum would never risk outright breaking the rules like that, and 2 being hes probably salty because he's vanilla again. Castamere mostly came from Sorian's feelings toward him and his confidence. |
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 11:58:26 GMT -8
I couldn't give 2 shits about getting into someone's "good graces"
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Post by squidyj on Jan 9, 2016 12:00:45 GMT -8
I definitely feel worse about Swampie now than I did before and I grow increasingly convinced that a CornB lynch is the best way to end the day phase.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 12:01:36 GMT -8
I'm kind of curious as to why I'm not on anyone's readlists, aside from Xams. I even threw out a vote on someone who otherwise hasn't really gotten much heat and nobody's questioned it or asked for me to clarify my reasoning. I almost wonder if scum don't want to draw attention to that vote.
LoC: There's a decent chance you'll be dead tomorrow if you're not scum or night kill immune. Even if you are bulletproof, you can't discount a strongman or other such role.
and Xam: Whilst I'm not going to completely discount the role PM discussion, there's a fair chance that scum do indeed have access to our win condition. Especially since it was something which was highlighted in the review thread, everyone should know town's win condition.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 12:02:14 GMT -8
I definitely feel worse about Swampie now than I did before and I grow increasingly convinced that a CornB lynch is the best way to end the day phase. So you're feeling worse about Swampie and therefore want to lynch CornB Seems legit |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 9, 2016 12:02:49 GMT -8
We get a double lynch some day. I think that in spite of our lack of information it is better used earlier rather than later as we risk the numbers becoming sketchier and it front-loads us with voting information.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 12:04:15 GMT -8
I'm kind of curious as to why I'm not on anyone's readlists, aside from Xams. I even threw out a vote on someone who otherwise hasn't really gotten much heat and nobody's questioned it or asked for me to clarify my reasoning. I almost wonder if scum don't want to draw attention to that vote. LoC: There's a decent chance you'll be dead tomorrow if you're not scum or night kill immune. Even if you are bulletproof, you can't discount a strongman or other such role. and Xam: Whilst I'm not going to completely discount the role PM discussion, there's a fair chance that scum do indeed have access to our win condition. Especially since it was something which was highlighted in the review thread, everyone should know town's win condition. I feel we went in-depth enough on what little information we could extrapolate for me to trust you had a similar role pm to mine. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 12:04:18 GMT -8
LoC: There's a decent chance you'll be dead tomorrow if you're not scum or night kill immune. Even if you are bulletproof, you can't discount a strongman or other such role. Nope. Implications.They wouldn't dare touch The King of Snakes. |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 9, 2016 12:05:06 GMT -8
I definitely feel worse about Swampie now than I did before and I grow increasingly convinced that a CornB lynch is the best way to end the day phase. So you're feeling worse about Swampie and therefore want to lynch CornB Seems legit Their interactions could be faked or just be from different scum factions, I could be wrong about one of them. Either way they both come across as scum. |
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 12:06:36 GMT -8
LoC: There's a decent chance you'll be dead tomorrow if you're not scum or night kill immune. Even if you are bulletproof, you can't discount a strongman or other such role. Nope. Implications.They wouldn't dare touch The King of Snakes. There might things scum can do other than kill ?nyth?ng c?m? t? m?nd"?" |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 9, 2016 12:08:14 GMT -8
Btw Fox Mulder is my spirit animal.
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Post by cornb on Jan 9, 2016 12:10:05 GMT -8
Did I miss some talk about me while I was at work?
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 12:10:49 GMT -8
Did I miss some talk about me while I was at work? Just a squid |
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 9, 2016 12:13:44 GMT -8
Yeah okay. -Day 1 Blarg vote is such a safe scummy thing. Especially when he hasn't done anything against us yet. -Hasn't posted since Day start, Handwaves activity for the rest of the day. -More faux bullshit. Vote:Czartim this is non-sense. blarg is the most anti-town player in gafia, he could have the most powerful role and still be better off dead. we either lynch him or I put him on ignore. Or lynch me whatever it takes not to read another one of his posts, idgaf " -Hasn't posted since Day start, Handwaves activity for the rest of the day. " are you suggesting I'd lie about rl reasons for a game of mafia? fuck off if so. I woke up to 20 pages of day 1 bs, I commented on as much as I could, and I've always stated Im busy on weekends. always Sea water is saltwater, you know |
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Post by cornb on Jan 9, 2016 12:22:43 GMT -8
Blarg was actually very perceptive in Election. A total fucking nuisance for scum to deal with in the final days. I'm not pro-policy lynch on Blarg.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 12:34:50 GMT -8
But what confuses me is your main target has been Sorian and his 'mystery info' and you really want to know more and figure that out....and then you vote for LoC, who was your 'I'm grasping at straws' suspicious player. You can build a case against LoC and his behavior just by what he has posted since the start but you haven't been doing that at all, just some dismissive hand-waving and 'a hunch'. I would ask what changed between your initial 'weak read' on LoC and now but I'm really thinking you are Scum and you actually don't have a reason for that other than wanting a safe bandwagon against a slightly suspicious player. In actuality I voiced my suspicions of Castamere before he had a vote placed on him, so I'm quite confused as to how that can be construed as bandwagoning. He claimed a PR that's quite difficult to prove and could theoretically provide an excuse for why he continues to live despite being a claimed islander, so the lingering threads of doubt have him ensnared in a web of intrigue in my eyes. My questioning of Sorian is simply born of the concern that he might end up deceased tomorrow and take any information he has with him. The enemy is almost certainly going to target a claimed PR if they can get away with it, and it's better to know more now rather than later. I'm not asking for a full claim; far from it. I simply desire a broader explanation of the events that transpired between his alleged death and now. So you're questioning people to get information out of them and then you go and vote for two people who claim, or act, like they have more information than everyone else. It's true that LoC's bulletproof claim is impossible to confirm unless he gets lynched during the day but I have a hard time picturing Scum making themselves loud to bring attention to that fact this early on. Scum could have very easily just slid by undetected but LoC brought the attention to himself, something that doesn't add up if he was Scum. Also you never answered why you were so interested in what would happen if Sorian died again. :) I'll talk more about the secert things I know tomorrow. Probably... LoC why are you doing this. First rule of #FightClub, don't talk about secret mechanics Second rule of #FightClub, always confuse the Pool and the Gym. |
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Post by Kawl on Jan 9, 2016 12:35:00 GMT -8
Re: Crimson
It's not exactly like everyone has posted extensive read lists and there are 31 players so it's to be expected that the more talkative will be mentioned although it seems in addition to the talkative those who seem notably off (swamped/Scrafty) also get brought up.
Gonna browse some posts by person to try to decide on my vote location. Not feeling xam, Blarg, or Sorian though.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 12:35:19 GMT -8
Could LoC be a lost partner? He's clearly breadcrumbing his role to somebody.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 9, 2016 12:35:30 GMT -8
We get a double lynch some day. I think that in spite of our lack of information it is better used earlier rather than later as we risk the numbers becoming sketchier and it front-loads us with voting information. Personally I would want to keep it for a day we have a clear scum, for example someone caught by a PM. Those days are normally not very interesting because it will just end up with that person getting turbo'd. If we still have the double lynch, we could lynch that person + someone else,making that day a bit more useful. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 12:37:29 GMT -8
We get a double lynch some day. I think that in spite of our lack of information it is better used earlier rather than later as we risk the numbers becoming sketchier and it front-loads us with voting information. Personally I would want to keep it for a day we have a clear scum, for example someone caught by a PM. Those days are normally not very interesting because it will just end up with that person getting turbo'd. If we still have the double lynch, we could lynch that person + someone else,making that day a bit more useful. If you have a confirmed scum then they have nothing to lose by intentionally throwing off the double lynch with a last minute vote. Could be a bit risky to use at that point. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 12:37:38 GMT -8
Could LoC be a lost partner? He's clearly breadcrumbing his role to somebody. Clearly, but to who? |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 12:38:19 GMT -8
Personally I would want to keep it for a day we have a clear scum, for example someone caught by a PM. Those days are normally not very interesting because it will just end up with that person getting turbo'd. If we still have the double lynch, we could lynch that person + someone else,making that day a bit more useful. If you have a confirmed scum then they have nothing to lose by intentionally throwing off the double lynch with a last minute vote. Could be a bit risky to use at that point. Actually, that would be a terrible point to use it. If you have a confirmed scum, going for a double lynch gives them a way out for one more day. |
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Post by Kawl on Jan 9, 2016 12:38:23 GMT -8
I'm for using double vote early, but not today. Get more information while we can afford another body. Similarly to the idea of sherriff I think it's something that becomes more dangerous to town the closer to end game we get.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 12:39:19 GMT -8
Could LoC be a lost partner? He's clearly breadcrumbing his role to somebody. Clearly, but to who? Well you've said yourself that it's to scum, with all that talking about how they won't dare kill you. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -8
I'll talk more about the secert things I know tomorrow. Probably... LoC why are you doing this. No spoilers. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -8
Could LoC be a lost partner? He's clearly breadcrumbing his role to somebody. That or he is inviting someone to try and kill him at Night or maybe something happens when he dies? It's the only reason I can see trying to bring this much negative attention to yourself. |
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