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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:07:43 GMT -8
There are zero inconsistencies. Both are posts that paint you as being scum. You're fucking full of it. You calling me out here makes zero sense. Both posts paint me as being scum for two completely opposite reasons. You're throwing whatever you can at the wall hoping that it sticks. Worried about something?  VOTE: BombayAre you voing for Bombay because you are annoyed of him or because you think that he is scum ? |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:14:01 GMT -8
Both posts paint me as being scum for two completely opposite reasons. You're throwing whatever you can at the wall hoping that it sticks. Worried about something? VOTE: BombayAre you voing for Bombay because you are annoyed of him or because you think that he is scum ? I think he is trying to do anything he can to paint me as scum (due to the separate but exclusive lines of reasoning that both lead to the same conclusion). It reads like a townie that is tunneling or a scum that is trying to fearmonger. I'm not sure which it is yet so I decided to park my vote here for now. The day is young. |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 8, 2016 21:16:32 GMT -8
I'd give him a few day phases to come to any conclusions. I'd much rather lynch in the pool of Scrafty, LoC, and CornB
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Post by Bombay on Jan 8, 2016 21:20:14 GMT -8
Sorian is fucking scum. Splinter modkilled him because he broke the rules (because Sorian's ego loves that shit). They realized how unbalanced the game would be, so after deliberation they let him back in. And we need to kill him. VOTE: SorianThis post insinuates that I was modkilled and then Splinter felt bad or was otherwise convinced that it would be a bad idea to kill a scum!sorian because it would unbalance the game. Definitely can't see that being a town role at all. This post insinuates that my death and resurrection were some sort of power and that you can't see it being a town role at all. So was I modkilled or did I use a PR? Those are two very different scenarios Darryl and you are trying to use whichever one is more convenient to say that I am scum. You are either tunneling or trying to distract but your argument is ridiculous. If you think I'm scum then that's fine but only if you actually have real logic to go with it. You started this by saying that Splinter mod killed me and then later felt remorse and decided to revive me. That is obviously not the case because he didn't show my role to you all. The events that happened were planned, that is undeniable. Don't try to pretend that Splinter did something and then felt like he had to backpedal later. I don't care if you were modkilled and I don't care if you used a PR. I care that you're scum. Me commenting on something CornBurrito said doesn't magically fucking negate the previous post I made. I don't need to believe in one reality, when I can believe in two and you're scum in both. What I don't like is the way you've acted ever since you've entered this game. Your motivations here are ridiculous. You're not acting like a town player. This isn't America. I don't need to assume you're innocent and then prove you guilty. I can see that you're scum, are acting in a way that is hurting town, and find ways to prove my hunch. You're either scum or are really enjoying this ego headrush from the attention. I can't tell with you tbh, but instead of assuming the worst of you, I'm going to assume the best and that you're scum. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:21:40 GMT -8
I'd give him a few day phases to come to any conclusions. I'd much rather lynch in the pool of Scrafty, LoC, and CornB Humor me and tell me again why someone from those three. Also thoughts on CzarTim, Karu, and Lone_Prodigy and the fact that Tim hasn't checked in at all and Karu and L_P have both thrown out a throwaway post and then bailed out? Coppa would also be on that list but I think we are still giving him day 1 immunity, is that right Splinter? There might be another inactive in here too, 31 people and someone is bound to be trying to hide. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:25:51 GMT -8
I'd give him a few day phases to come to any conclusions. I'd much rather lynch in the pool of Scrafty, LoC, and CornB why go for scrafty ? Because she is a girl ? |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:27:21 GMT -8
This post insinuates that I was modkilled and then Splinter felt bad or was otherwise convinced that it would be a bad idea to kill a scum!sorian because it would unbalance the game. This post insinuates that my death and resurrection were some sort of power and that you can't see it being a town role at all. So was I modkilled or did I use a PR? Those are two very different scenarios Darryl and you are trying to use whichever one is more convenient to say that I am scum. You are either tunneling or trying to distract but your argument is ridiculous. If you think I'm scum then that's fine but only if you actually have real logic to go with it. You started this by saying that Splinter mod killed me and then later felt remorse and decided to revive me. That is obviously not the case because he didn't show my role to you all. The events that happened were planned, that is undeniable. Don't try to pretend that Splinter did something and then felt like he had to backpedal later. I don't care if you were modkilled and I don't care if you used a PR. I care that you're scum. Me commenting on something CornBurrito said doesn't magically fucking negate the previous post I made. I don't need to believe in one reality, when I can believe in two and you're scum in both. What I don't like is the way you've acted ever since you've entered this game. Your motivations here are ridiculous. You're not acting like a town player. This isn't America. I don't need to assume you're innocent and then prove you guilty. I can see that you're scum, are acting in a way that is hurting town, and find ways to prove my hunch. You're either scum or are really enjoying this ego headrush from the attention. I can't tell with you tbh, but instead of assuming the worst of you, I'm going to assume the best and that you're scum. I'm so sorry Darryl, next time I have to die and come back to life in the middle of the game I'll act more like a town player when I do it. Please, explain to me exactly how I'm not acting like a town player? I've literally given you everything that I'm able to. I'm also trying to make the best of this spectacle that I was forcibly thrown into by trying to tell you all to scum hunt, not focus on this day 1 side show mechanic. So how have I acted since I entered the game? You say a lot of words in this post but none of it actually says anything concrete. According to you, I'm scum and I have an ego, no explanation, just that it is. |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 8, 2016 21:28:37 GMT -8
Coppa would also be on that list but I think we are still giving him day 1 immunity, is that right Splinter? Ok I guess I should make that official Coppa said when he signed up that he is unavailable until Sunday. Since the game started earlier than that I have granted him immunity for day 1. With 31 targets, I'm sure you can find someone else to sacrifice |
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Post by Bombay on Jan 8, 2016 21:30:32 GMT -8
Does anyone buy the idea that Sorian was in the fucking dead thread, gained knowledge, and was let back into the game? I've never claimed that I was in the dead thread by the way. Other people brought that up. I'm just not allowed to talk about what actually happened so I'm letting your imaginations run wild. I would prefer that you all scum hunt instead of worrying about what I was doing while I was dead so that I can participate more. This post right here. Let our imaginations run wild! That's so helpful and town-like. We can dream and speculate away, finding scum in our fucking tea leaves. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:32:18 GMT -8
Bombay. Why the obsession with sorian ?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 8, 2016 21:32:32 GMT -8
I feel like LoC has been disingenuous in a weird way While Scrafty's vote on him feels poorly motivated.
As for CornB it's hard to point out exactly what it is about him that is rubbing me the wrong way, I'll try to go over his posts before the end of the day phase, there's a general sense that he's not town though that is conveyed through what he's choosing to interact with in this thread.
To be honest there are too many players. I don't have any thoughts on anyone who hasn't posted or has like 1 or 2 weak posts, It's very easy for mafia to be hiding in low activity in the early days when we have so many players but I'm still going to have a hard time keeping them in mind when I'm sifting through a hundred posts of regular mafia from active players and another 500 posts of blarg being blarg. It's very easy for stuff to get missed or pushed out. I honestly don't expect anyone's reads to be exceptional in the early phases but I hope we get lucky early on so that we can carry the game into the later stages.
I also know you read CornB as somewhat scummy earlier if I remember correctly. I think you generally have pretty good reads if you're town and if we're coming to the same conclusions I think it would be an added benefit to test that theory out. Not that I would have a strong read from CornB flipping town, but if he flipped Scum that'd be good for town IMO.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:34:52 GMT -8
I've never claimed that I was in the dead thread by the way. Other people brought that up. I'm just not allowed to talk about what actually happened so I'm letting your imaginations run wild. I would prefer that you all scum hunt instead of worrying about what I was doing while I was dead so that I can participate more. This post right here. Let our imaginations run wild! That's so helpful and town-like. We can dream and speculate away, finding scum in our fucking tea leaves. Are you cherrypicking whatever you can find? This post is after you voted for me. I can understand if you find this scummy but you should have examples from before your vote right? Or was this a case of putting the wagon before the horse? I don't know what to tell you otherwise though. I got my role PM, the game started, I was planned to die and I did, while dead I gained some new information that I did not have before the game started, I came back to life shortly after. I have a posting restriction and I can't say any more than that. I didn't go to the dead thread, I think I can say that much. I was just kind of letting it ride when it first got brought up because, honestly, I'm still kind of tiptoeing over what I can and can't say. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:35:43 GMT -8
I think you generally have pretty good reads nin, if you're town and if we're coming to the same conclusions I think it would be an added benefit to test that theory out. Not that I would have a strong read from CornB flipping town, but if he flipped Scum that'd be good for town IMO. Thanks Squid, i like you too and a hope we will be playing a good game. |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 8, 2016 21:37:35 GMT -8
nice try buddy.
Also, my spirit animal? Kind of ignorant and prejudiced, not gonna lie.
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:38:19 GMT -8
This post right here. Let our imaginations run wild! That's so helpful and town-like. We can dream and speculate away, finding scum in our fucking tea leaves. Are you cherrypicking whatever you can find? This post is after you voted for me. I can understand if you find this scummy but you should have examples from before your vote right? Or was this a case of putting the wagon before the horse? I don't know what to tell you otherwise though. I got my role PM, the game started, I was planned to die and I did, while dead I gained some new information that I did not have before the game started, I came back to life shortly after. I have a posting restriction and I can't say any more than that. I didn't go to the dead thread, I think I can say that much. I was just kind of letting it ride when it first got brought up because, honestly, I'm still kind of tiptoeing over what I can and can't say. I think thats enough Sorian. you said what you wanted to say and Bombay will keep on trying to put you into a bad light. Dont give him any more attention and the discussion will end. It will save the rest of us a lot of time. :* |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:38:20 GMT -8
I think you generally have pretty good reads nin, if you're town and if we're coming to the same conclusions I think it would be an added benefit to test that theory out. Not that I would have a strong read from CornB flipping town, but if he flipped Scum that'd be good for town IMO. Thanks Squid, i like you too and a hope we will be playing a good game. Let's not edit people's posts in the quotes that a little sketchy Nin. Squidy, I see what you are saying and I've noted it. Your demeanor seems, uh, passive this go around which I find a little unsettling but I can't really disagree with any of that logic at this time. Not really feeling it from Scrafty but I could see the case where she is focusing more on being a presence than playing. Her characters do that sometimes though so it can be hard for me to divide the two. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 8, 2016 21:38:45 GMT -8
I go get dinner and start packing up my hut and I see that you all have gone crazy!
Seriously, we need to sacrifice someone to the blood God of the volcano (may it ever be merciful in its destruction).
I agree with Sorian, a random poster who seems to have just checked in (even I satisfy that requirement), that's who we should go after.
I'm not voting for any major poster today (no Sorian, Bombay/daryll for example). I don't really want to vote for the following because they are entertaining nin1000, blarg and scraftydevil
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:39:12 GMT -8
nice try buddy. Also, my spirit animal? Kind of ignorant and prejudiced, not gonna lie.  Worth a shot |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 21:41:05 GMT -8
Thanks Squid, i like you too and a hope we will be playing a good game. Let's not edit people's posts in the quotes that a little sketchy Nin. Squidy, I see what you are saying and I've noted it. Your demeanor seems, uh, passive this go around which I find a little unsettling but I can't really disagree with any of that logic at this time. Not really feeling it from Scrafty but I could see the case where she is focusing more on being a presence than playing. Her characters do that sometimes though so it can be hard for me to divide the two. Dont go all momma on me Sorian , it was obviously a joke towards squid. you have no beef in it In all seriousness, i never do that kind of thing if it gets serious so hold your snickers. love you too buddy but there are other people around you aswell. You might hurt their feelings |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 8, 2016 21:41:40 GMT -8
'Course, luv. Sorian certainly knows more about the mechanics of this island than any of us lot, and has been hinting at as much. Even if it's a load of pigswill, knowledge of what he's holding back could give us more insight into whether or not he's worth keeping around in the long run. He claims something extraordinary will happen if he dies again, which sounds midway between a threat and a promise to me. I'd like to get a followup on that if possible, without a full claim o'course. In the case of Castamere, his statement simply sounds supiciously like an excuse to me, luv. Almost as if he's trying to plant the idea in his head that it won't be unusual if he continues to live regardless of how much time passes. It's grasping at strawrs of course, but such ghastly tactics are necessary if we want to squeeze any information out of this rather clueless first day. Vote: ScraftyDevilYou answered my question by restating what you said earlier with a couple more words thrown in to make it look better. 'I think Sorian has a lot of info that could help us so we shouldn't lynch him because that info could help us'. Again, what information are you hoping he gives out? Or are you Scum who is trying to blend in but aren't sure what to directly ask for? And why the fear around what happens when Sorian dies again? He obviously hinted that something might happen but unless you're Scum who is thinking about risking a kill on him ( and triggering this 'something' ) there isn't much of a reason to worry about that. I wouldn't call this day clueless either, we've already got a good amount of discussion going and a few people have already jumped out from the crowd. LoC is one of these people as he tried to breadcrumb his Snake role with not much success and instead opted for a full blown 'I'm the Snake God' shtick, something you picked up on and voted for here: Oh, good heavens, not this bloody song and dance again. Sorian, luv, you've essentially softclaimed a miscellaneous PR at this point and have thus painted a target on your back that I imagine both the riffraff and some rambuctious islanders are going to shoot for. Are you confident enough that whatever benefit your power has will be of use to us in the future, enough that it's worth risking your neck on the very first day? I find this sequence of events to be very puzzling on the whole, and I'm not ready to drop it quite yet. In the meantime, I suppose I'll create a bit more pressure on my favourite slithering suspect. VOTE: LordOfCastamereLast time I had a hunch like this it turned out to be rather spot-on, so I'm not keen on throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But what confuses me is your main target has been Sorian and his 'mystery info' and you really want to know more and figure that out....and then you vote for LoC, who was your 'I'm grasping at straws' suspicious player. You can build a case against LoC and his behavior just by what he has posted since the start but you haven't been doing that at all, just some dismissive hand-waving and 'a hunch'. I would ask what changed between your initial 'weak read' on LoC and now but I'm really thinking you are Scum and you actually don't have a reason for that other than wanting a safe bandwagon against a slightly suspicious player. |
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Post by Bombay on Jan 8, 2016 21:42:10 GMT -8
This post right here. Let our imaginations run wild! That's so helpful and town-like. We can dream and speculate away, finding scum in our fucking tea leaves. Are you cherrypicking whatever you can find? This post is after you voted for me. I can understand if you find this scummy but you should have examples from before your vote right? Or was this a case of putting the wagon before the horse? I don't know what to tell you otherwise though. I got my role PM, the game started, I was planned to die and I did, while dead I gained some new information that I did not have before the game started, I came back to life shortly after. I have a posting restriction and I can't say any more than that. I didn't go to the dead thread, I think I can say that much. I was just kind of letting it ride when it first got brought up because, honestly, I'm still kind of tiptoeing over what I can and can't say. Why would I not just point out the most obvious and concise post that shows exactly how and why I think you're scum? You're consistently acting as a source of disinformation. If I was a towny in your shoes, I probably would have said "nothing happened at all, it was probably a joke". This would have gotten the outcome you CLAIM you want, which is everyone ignoring you and focusing on scum hunting. However, there is a conflict in motive here. You did want to make yourself into a temporary spectacle and make everyone believe you to have special information, which makes me ask "why?". And the answers to that question lead me to believe scum, or that you may have just wanted the attention. There's a possibility it's the former, which is why I'm voting for you. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 8, 2016 21:56:42 GMT -8
Are you cherrypicking whatever you can find? This post is after you voted for me. I can understand if you find this scummy but you should have examples from before your vote right? Or was this a case of putting the wagon before the horse? I don't know what to tell you otherwise though. I got my role PM, the game started, I was planned to die and I did, while dead I gained some new information that I did not have before the game started, I came back to life shortly after. I have a posting restriction and I can't say any more than that. I didn't go to the dead thread, I think I can say that much. I was just kind of letting it ride when it first got brought up because, honestly, I'm still kind of tiptoeing over what I can and can't say. Why would I not just point out the most obvious and concise post that shows exactly how and why I think you're scum? You're consistently acting as a source of disinformation. If I was a towny in your shoes, I probably would have said "nothing happened at all, it was probably a joke". This would have gotten the outcome you CLAIM you want, which is everyone ignoring you and focusing on scum hunting. However, there is a conflict in motive here. You did want to make yourself into a temporary spectacle and make everyone believe you to have special information, which makes me ask "why?". And the answers to that question lead me to believe scum, or that you may have just wanted the attention. There's a possibility it's the former, which is why I'm voting for you. Saying nothing happened doesn't get across the key pieces of information I had to deliver: There are multiple scum factions. Our spirit animals are in groupings, not pairs and not individuals. Don't talk about your spirit animal and treat it like you would treat an important PR. |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 8, 2016 21:59:01 GMT -8
But what confuses me is your main target has been Sorian and his 'mystery info' and you really want to know more and figure that out....and then you vote for LoC, who was your 'I'm grasping at straws' suspicious player. You can build a case against LoC and his behavior just by what he has posted since the start but you haven't been doing that at all, just some dismissive hand-waving and 'a hunch'. I would ask what changed between your initial 'weak read' on LoC and now but I'm really thinking you are Scum and you actually don't have a reason for that other than wanting a safe bandwagon against a slightly suspicious player. In actuality I voiced my suspicions of Castamere before he had a vote placed on him, so I'm quite confused as to how that can be construed as bandwagoning. He claimed a PR that's quite difficult to prove and could theoretically provide an excuse for why he continues to live despite being a claimed islander, so the lingering threads of doubt have him ensnared in a web of intrigue in my eyes. My questioning of Sorian is simply born of the concern that he might end up deceased tomorrow and take any information he has with him. The enemy is almost certainly going to target a claimed PR if they can get away with it, and it's better to know more now rather than later. I'm not asking for a full claim; far from it. I simply desire a broader explanation of the events that transpired between his alleged death and now. |
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Post by Bombay on Jan 8, 2016 22:07:59 GMT -8
Why would I not just point out the most obvious and concise post that shows exactly how and why I think you're scum? You're consistently acting as a source of disinformation. If I was a towny in your shoes, I probably would have said "nothing happened at all, it was probably a joke". This would have gotten the outcome you CLAIM you want, which is everyone ignoring you and focusing on scum hunting. However, there is a conflict in motive here. You did want to make yourself into a temporary spectacle and make everyone believe you to have special information, which makes me ask "why?". And the answers to that question lead me to believe scum, or that you may have just wanted the attention. There's a possibility it's the former, which is why I'm voting for you. Saying nothing happened doesn't get across the key pieces of information I had to deliver: There are multiple scum factions. Our spirit animals are in groupings, not pairs and not individuals. Don't talk about your spirit animal and treat it like you would treat an important PR. I could have made all of this up and I have a troubling time piecing together a cohesive story about how this information was relayed to you in the manner you claim. This isn't even that useful if it was true! Anyone with a head on his shoulders could have guessed these 3 things, or could have been a scum player tenacious enough to make slightly-believable stuff up and try to put them out as fact to see what would happen. The details are so obscure that it doesn't even matter if we find out you were wrong, because you "can't talk about it". |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 8, 2016 22:12:42 GMT -8
But what confuses me is your main target has been Sorian and his 'mystery info' and you really want to know more and figure that out....and then you vote for LoC, who was your 'I'm grasping at straws' suspicious player. You can build a case against LoC and his behavior just by what he has posted since the start but you haven't been doing that at all, just some dismissive hand-waving and 'a hunch'. I would ask what changed between your initial 'weak read' on LoC and now but I'm really thinking you are Scum and you actually don't have a reason for that other than wanting a safe bandwagon against a slightly suspicious player. In actuality I voiced my suspicions of Castamere before he had a vote placed on him, so I'm quite confused as to how that can be construed as bandwagoning. He claimed a PR that's quite difficult to prove and could theoretically provide an excuse for why he continues to live despite being a claimed islander, so the lingering threads of doubt have him ensnared in a web of intrigue in my eyes. My questioning of Sorian is simply born of the concern that he might end up deceased tomorrow and take any information he has with him. The enemy is almost certainly going to target a claimed PR if they can get away with it, and it's better to know more now rather than later. I'm not asking for a full claim; far from it. I simply desire a broader explanation of the events that transpired between his alleged death and now. Nah, its clear the real reason you want me dead is because you know you can't night kill me. The votes will slowly trickle in as your teammates set up the kill. No. I won't let you. My time is now. Take this!! Vote:Scrafty |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 8, 2016 22:18:49 GMT -8
Final Fanasty? is that a porn parody?
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 8, 2016 22:21:29 GMT -8
Final Fanasty? is that a porn parody? What? |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 8, 2016 22:24:42 GMT -8
Final Fanasty? is that a porn parody? What? Buy Final Fantasy: The Spirts Within today!! For the low low price of $9.99!! |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 8, 2016 22:27:24 GMT -8
In actuality I voiced my suspicions of Castamere before he had a vote placed on him, so I'm quite confused as to how that can be construed as bandwagoning. He claimed a PR that's quite difficult to prove and could theoretically provide an excuse for why he continues to live despite being a claimed islander, so the lingering threads of doubt have him ensnared in a web of intrigue in my eyes. My questioning of Sorian is simply born of the concern that he might end up deceased tomorrow and take any information he has with him. The enemy is almost certainly going to target a claimed PR if they can get away with it, and it's better to know more now rather than later. I'm not asking for a full claim; far from it. I simply desire a broader explanation of the events that transpired between his alleged death and now. Nah, its clear the real reason you want me dead is because you know you can't night kill me. The votes will slowly trickle in as your teammates set up the kill. No. I won't let you. My time is now. Take this!! Vote:ScraftyWhatever you say, luv. I'm certainly not afraid to die; if anything my flip would likely be more useful than any input I can offer at this avenue. My death would aid in establishing some early voting patterns as well, which would be quite nice indeed considering how many of you lot seem to want to rush me to my timely demise. |
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Post by ridli on Jan 8, 2016 22:32:52 GMT -8
So we're supposed to hunt scum, who are after each other as well, thus not giving us any real connections to follow even if we luck into a lynch? Starting to feel like majority of us are just targets and dont actually get to play a game.
Lynch me and Sorian please.
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