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Post by Retro on Nov 11, 2015 7:26:16 GMT -8
You order a couple slices of Pizza from Big Rico, weave past the hooded figures, and take a seat at a large table in the back. (Note: Posts in this thread will not increase you post count, and cannot be searched or found be anyone who does not already have access to this thread.)
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:10:50 GMT -8
Welcome Sorian, I'm a gossip ...again.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 10:14:26 GMT -8
Mazre, I'm going to be frank with you.
This development worries me and I think you might be scum.
What is your role name please?
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:16:35 GMT -8
The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives In Everyone's Homes
I like the skepticism.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 10:18:03 GMT -8
And this is your only power? You can just invite people here for a night chat?
I'm actually skeptical for a very real reason which I'll tell you about here once you answer the last question above.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:21:07 GMT -8
That's correct I'm able to invite up to 3 players to chat during the night. If they're killed they can't be replaced, except if they're killed the same night they're invited.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 10:23:58 GMT -8
Do you invite them during the day phase or during the night phase?
Per chance do you use a command that looks something like this:
INVITE: <playername>?
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:25:26 GMT -8
Yes during the day phase and yes that's the command. You're a gossip as well aren't you? Or you've been invited to more than one gossip chat?
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 10:30:17 GMT -8
Yes during the day phase and yes that's the command. You're a gossip as well aren't you? Or you've been invited to more than one gossip chat? You understand my skepticism then. I know I'm town-aligned and seeing two gossip chats has me a bit worried now. I'll just copy and paste what I posted over in my Jerry's Tacos thread:
"Welcome to Jerry's Tacos everybody!
It would be easy for me to claim that I was Jerry but that would be silly because as we all know Jerry transgressed against nature with his enchiladas so he is not here tonight or any other night.
I am actually Dana Cardinal, Night Vale Public Radio Intern (aligned with Night Vale, of course). During each day phase I am allowed to invite one player to Jerry's Tacos (and you will return each night) and we are all allowed to discuss in here but during the night phase only. As with these types of roles, there is one huge risk. If I choose incorrectly, I may invite scum into this chat which destroys the advantage that I can hopefully give."
So, either this is the biggest boon ever that we just got someone access to dual town gossip threads or we have some complicated meta to work through.
I forgot to ask, do you have a role title? Kind of like how mine is Night Vale Public Radio Intern?
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:37:00 GMT -8
Perfectly understood. For what it's worth I chose you due to a town positive read and I've been stuck in gossip chats/mission chats with inactive people before so I figured this was the best way to avoid that problem at least.
As to your question no I do not have a role title, just 'The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives In Everyone's Homes'
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 10:44:48 GMT -8
Fair enough, I'm still waiting for the person I invited to start posting over in my gossip chat. I'm going to keep who it is a secret for now just to protect them on the off chance they are an important role but I invited them not so much because of my town vs. scum read of them but because I think they tried to bread crumb that they were a very specific character and I'm hoping that character is our investigator.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 11:14:23 GMT -8
Alright, I am going to pass along some information based on the goings on in my taco shop. I invited Ty4on over this evening. If I have anything else important to relay from my gossip chat, I will probably do so. As a note, me suspecting Ty4on in public was a lie, I only did it because he was going through unnoticed by many and I was worried that would paint a target on his back, obviously I don't want the people in my gossip chat to die so I suspected him publicly to possibly let scum think I might be pushing him to death in the coming days.
As a note, I town read both you and Ty4on but I will also be honest in saying that I trust him slightly more at the moment only because I find it odd that there are two gossip chats with the owner's being aligned with town.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 12:15:54 GMT -8
Something I just thought of by the way. No reason to waste this opportunity for an early 3-way so if there is anything you would like me to covey to Ty4on, feel free to let me know. I will also be making this offer to him.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 14:28:20 GMT -8
Good to know. I haven't really felt a need to obfuscate my reads yet. I don't have any additional info to pass on at this time. If it's okay, I'll make a reference to the taco shop sometime in the next day phase and if you could request Ty4on to quote it and respond with a mention of Big Rico's I would appreciate it.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 14:35:28 GMT -8
I can do that, be subtle with it of course, but I'll let him know that I approve of that exchange so that he can prove his connection to me.
I plan to post a better reads list in both gossip chats sometime this weekend, for the most part what I said in the thread was truth but I did put in a few red herrings (like Ty4on for example) to apply pressure or to get on some good sides. I'm trying to survive longer than my usual so I can fill my gossip chat.
I'd also recommend that we discuss who we want to invite tomorrow? I'm thinking it's best if we don't overlap because with me as a link for now, we are basically running one big gossip chat.
I also did some more research into the AC game, I didn't realize there were 3 gossip chats and they were all run by town players, that actually makes me feel better about all of this but Retro might still be trying to play with Gafia meta and one of us might still be scum (meaning you from my perspective).
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 14:46:34 GMT -8
And message relayed. I've also asked for his input on who he thinks would be good invite candidates for tomorrow.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 15:32:23 GMT -8
Hey Mazre, silly question from Ty4on and I, what's your win condition?
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 15:47:06 GMT -8
You win when only Town-aligned players remain.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 20, 2015 15:51:39 GMT -8
Yeah, checks out, well that makes me feel a little better about things.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 6:45:43 GMT -8
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186173405&postcount=689Link to my last reads in the main thread, as I said I'm happy with these for now based on day 1. As for who to invite I'm leaning towards someone from the following list: Absolutbro, squidyj, coppa, flush, fireblend, with ultrajay and tl21xx as maybes; tl21xx heavily dependent on the events of day 2 Since I'm sure neither of us is set on exactly who we want to invite at this point I would recommend splitting this list, along with any other nominees you would like to add, and giving each of us a pool of 3-4 candidates to pull from for our invite, this way we have some latitutde to choose but don't end up inviting the same person
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Post by Sorian on Nov 22, 2015 9:27:55 GMT -8
I'm sorry for not being around as much as I should have been. I'll admit that my skepticism from the beginning got the better of me and I've been more active over in the other gossip chat, that being said we've decided that this is likely two town-aligned chats so first order of business is that I have Coppa over there, not Ty4on. Ty4on was my choice for most of the day phase but I switched it out for Coppa near the end because I had a much more town read on him and didn't want to make a risky play on the first day. I figured I could just give you my reasoning for inviting Ty4on for now and just pass along information all the same when needed. I had all weekend to decide how much trust I had for all of this. I do still town read Ty4on and I threw him on my suspicions list for the reasons I said before, to dissuade his night kill since I might pick him up later. Everything you have attributed to Ty4on, you can just switch over to Coppa, I was too lazy to actually lie about the content about posts, just who was saying them. Coppa is also fine with the Jerry Tacos, Big Rico response. So that being said, this post is still my main reads list. Ty4on is the only real lie. As I say there, I'm pretty sure Seath is town, not scum but I just think he might hurt more than help. I'm pretty close to 100% on Coppa being town so I'm not really worried about that and then my top town list past that would include UltraJay, AbsolutBro, Fireblend, and gryvan. I'm still very cautious of squidy. I think he is paying more attention to the game than he is letting on so I'm not confident in a town read there yet. I'll take UltraJay, Ty4on, Fireblend, and gryvan as my four if you want to pick up others from the list. As for Coppa's reads: he thinks Mike might be acting weird because he is a PR, he is unsure of Absolut but is leaning town last he mentioned him, he is worried about Ferret being new scum, and that's about it so far. He said he was going to do another pass through the thread and post another reads list of sorts before the night phase ends so I'll pass that along once it gets posted. Chat has been slow going since I've been busy-ish this weekend and we did spend a few posts figuring out if there is a likely way that you are scum instead of town but we are both doubting it.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 23, 2015 7:41:41 GMT -8
Passing along last minute reads from Coppa, nothing earth shattering:
He's not getting the best reads from Fire but he looks to be playing the same as he did in MGS and he was town there.
Gryvan and Boo Boo'N both look like newbies who have no teammates to fall back on so they are airing their questions and issues in the main thread, reading that as town.
He has no idea about Scrafty. Says her posts seem empty once you actually filter out the valley girl accent.
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Post by Retro on Nov 23, 2015 9:03:31 GMT -8
Thread will be locked for the day at 10:30 Mountain. (27 minutes from now.)
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Post by Retro on Nov 23, 2015 9:30:56 GMT -8
Thread is now unlocked.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 27, 2015 10:06:47 GMT -8
Welcome Absolutbro. Spoiler but I strongly suspect Sorian may have been referring to me in his end of day posts, I won't speculate on his reasons at the moment and will instead defer to him to make his case as he see's fit.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:07:27 GMT -8
Okay Mazre, I had to survive last night to make sure I could invite more people to my gossip chat so I had to be agreeable but we are doing this right now before someone comes in here and role claims.
I asked you for your win condition yesterday at a time where scum did not know town's win condition and you gave me the wrong answer. Explain yourself.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 27, 2015 10:14:03 GMT -8
I gave you the incorrect win condition on purpose. You did nothing to rebuff me, and furthermore you're claimed gossip members failed to complete the phrase exchange we had agreed to. Either you're lying or we're both victims of our own attempts to verify each other.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:19:09 GMT -8
Yes they did, as requested by me, originally, we were going to go along with the plan but I put the brakes on that real quick when you gave the wrong answer. I wasn't going to offer a rebuttal to your response because if I died last night then gossip chat would be useless. Today, I'm willing to push back more because I'm not worried about being killed by scum. I'm aware we could both be playing a game of chess against each other, that's why I didn't say anymore in the thread today but I need to make a decision tonight on this.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 27, 2015 10:38:46 GMT -8
You and I seem to think entirely too much alike. Unfortunately, due to your proclamation at the end of day 2 you pretty much have to continue on your course on day 3, regardless of how you feel about me. Couple the fact that there's a substantial chance we'll see a double lynch tomorrow there's a high probability I'll be dead as lynch 1 or lynch 2. Which sucks for me in that slow motion train wreck sort of way but ultimately will be a loss of ordinary town result by the time it goes down and probably a push for the town overall.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 27, 2015 10:55:50 GMT -8
Actually no, I've already verified with Retro that for my power (he obviously can't comment on yours but we seem to be mirrors of one another), if I die by lynch then my invite does not go through so if you are town, you would be dying with one person missing from your chat.
I definitely have to stay the course in role claiming for myself and that is fine, no one is going to chomp down on me when I say I'm the gossip, I obviously have people who can verify me and town can take that how they will if it's really needed though I would, of course, prefer that my gossip folks stay hidden so that they can keep chat going unhindered.
Now whether I reveal you or not is the question. I took into account that you might have been trying to trick me but calling you out on it if you are Scum Mazre was all risk and no reward, but I also have to couple that with your claim still not making sense to me. First off, your role name, The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives In Everyone's Homes, careless typo by you or by retro but that is not the character's name so that's an issue for me. Couple that with the role you have. I'm inviting people to a gossip chat because Cecil is busy at the radio station so he needs me to go out and connect with the community. What's your character's reasoning? The faceless old woman has no business inviting people out to a nightly chat? Her character and role seem prefect and destined for a tracker or watcher so yes, I have some lingering issues here.
As for AbsolutBro when he comes in, what you do is your prerogative. I think Mazre is scum and Mazre probably feels the same about me. On the surface, I'd imagine looking at this thread would make you feel there is some scum contact in here so what you do is on you. Anything you say, I will be passing to my gossip chat because I am near 100% town read on both of them.
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