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Post by natiko on Feb 6, 2017 18:13:59 GMT -8
I think there's a few people that have hinted about having bad ones. Might be worth going through and picking one of them. Maybe someone will have one we can manipulate into happening prior to them ever claiming. That way it would just look like an accident.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 6, 2017 18:18:49 GMT -8
Yeah, but absolutbro would have to either solo it or somehow hint at it in the game thread, since he can't hint at it in here. And doing either of those would be pretty suspicious.
Well, actually, it'd be neat if absolutbro found out someone's FA before they revealed it, and "accidentally" triggered it. If it's too obscure, though, that'd still be pretty suspicious.
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Post by natiko on Feb 6, 2017 18:29:32 GMT -8
The alternative is to choose someone that explicitly said they are against claiming FAs in hopes that they have one that somehow hints at their role.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 6, 2017 19:10:50 GMT -8
I will do my best to covertly get it out in the game thread. I have no limits there but I don't want to push too hard
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 6, 2017 19:13:19 GMT -8
I'm kind of curious why Faddy hasn't said anything about the missed Limerick. He's not dead, so either he and Crimson are using a different form for limericks or he is lying.
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Post by natiko on Feb 6, 2017 19:43:14 GMT -8
My guess was he's trying to lay low about it and not draw Crimson's attention to it. Could be lying through his teeth but I'm not sure what he would gain by that.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 7:05:03 GMT -8
The list of supposed Forbidden Actions for other players we know of thus far:
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 7:10:37 GMT -8
Shit, I'm scared about claiming my forbidden action right now, even though the day is almost over. I feel like it could create a tidal wave going against me, because of how fickle town usually is when the end of the day approaches. And if I vote for myself near the end, that could attract some investigative roles to check me out. What a pain.
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Post by natiko on Feb 7, 2017 7:36:48 GMT -8
I think there's enough other targets you should be safe from a lynch. Investigation though idk
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 7:39:22 GMT -8
I tried to slightly dissimulate it in my previous post, and I think it's early enough (as opposed to right at the end) that mine might be glossed over when it comes to accumulating a bunch of votes. And if I have to vote on myself, people might wonder why and go back to see that I had already claimed and the suspicion will be alleviated (somewhat). That's my hope, anyways.
And now we have Karkador claiming he doesn't have one. That doesn't sound right at all. He's clearly a special snowflake if that's true, and that could be trouble.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 7:45:14 GMT -8
Since this will be seen after the game end, and for the record, I actually do not care one bit about Faddy's missing syllables. It just gives me something to post about and argue with people on. 
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Post by natiko on Feb 7, 2017 8:01:00 GMT -8
I think Kark took away any risk of yours being scrutinized too hard. Also may have a target for our check now.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 8:12:04 GMT -8
If someone didn't have an FA, I wonder if you'd be killed by telling us as much in here, absolutbro.
Also, I'm not actually sure about Faddy's FA now. Well, I wasn't before, but I didn't necessarily think StanleyPalmtree's was a lie. Now Faddy's really is the only FA out there that has no mechanical effect on the game. That's an outlier, and I feel like we would have already known if there were similar types in D1.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 8:12:34 GMT -8
We should NK *Splinter instead of Ty I think. My recent "spat" with him is pretty good cover I think, and Ty seems more content to keep Blarg alive where *Splinter wants to kill him. I think having blarg in the game is good for us, given his limited ability to communicate. I think I might FA-cop him though to make sure he's not bullshitting us though.
That or FA-cop Sorian so we know which day he has to roleclaim by (if we believe him). Then we can make sure to kill him before that.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 8:17:35 GMT -8
If someone didn't have an FA, I wonder if you'd be killed by telling us as much in here, absolutbro. Also, I'm not actually sure about Faddy's FA now. Well, I wasn't before, but I didn't necessarily think StanleyPalmtree's was a lie. Now Faddy's really is the only FA out there that has no mechanical effect on the game. That's an outlier, and I feel like we would have already known if there were similar types in D1. I see Faddy's as a less extreme version of Blarg. (Again, assuming both are true.) We know this is a bastard-ish game, but overall I think if we look at the balance we can guess town is handicapped in some way. We have 3 PRs, two of which are limited use. My power is limited both in use (finding out Faddy is telling the truth nets us nothing, for instance) and usefulness (I cannot directly communicate my results to my team). We also have the painful FA of "at least one of us will be dead by N4" or whatever the actual timeline for that is. So to balance out fairly weak powers against town, town has to have some sort of handicap as well. My guess for many of the ordinary town players is that their ability to communicate is hamstrung. Blarg gets and hour. Faddy has every 4th post hampered. Sorian has to claim at some point.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 8:19:26 GMT -8
Also: I have a meeting from 1pm-2pm my time, and leave the office at 3:30. The game day ends at 4pm my time, which will be when I am on the train home and have spotty connection. I will be around until my meeting as best I can, but I still need to grab lunch. I am on mobile the entire time regardless, so my access to certain tools (like the post and vote counters) is somewhat limited.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 8:27:29 GMT -8
So you think that the FA of vanilla townies might generally be about restricting their communication. I see. That'd make sense, though I dunno if I'm buying anything Blarg is putting down right now.
I think it'd be best to investigate the FA of someone who hasn't claimed theirs yet (excluding Blarg), instead of verifying that someone's is legit.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 8:33:30 GMT -8
I am leaning towards Sorian purely for the specifics. If we believe him, and I do, he has to claim before a certain day. I cannot imagine an ordinary town would be forced to claim, so that to me hints at a PR of some sort. If we want whatever information he might give town to be lost, we can make sure to kill him before his forced claim. Sure, he might claim early (especially if he redchecks someone or doctor-saves someone or something else definitive) but Sorian is a good enough player to try to get as much as possible out of his role.
I could wait until the next night phase if we want, check someone like Nin or Flush or Kark, and hope it is something useful. But I think knowing Sorian's deadline (badumtsh) would be the most useful thing right now.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 8:59:47 GMT -8
Heh, getting Terrabyte to kill himself would be magnificent. Potential for 2 kills in a single day phase.
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Post by Bronx-Man on Feb 7, 2017 9:15:34 GMT -8
I'm gonna hold on voting for Terra. When he gets mislynched, I can spend D2 painting the people that voted for him as potential scum.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 9:39:20 GMT -8
Yeah... this is going to come down to last minute nonsense. I can feel it.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 9:49:49 GMT -8
You know, this possible PR of Blarg's was kind of scaring me to vote for him... but I don't see why:
"I also steal/copy the Role of whoever the last person is who voted against me"
That'd just mean we'd gain another scum player, if it was actually true.
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Post by natiko on Feb 7, 2017 10:14:15 GMT -8
This is hard to keep up with on mobile. Trying to thread the needle of not seeming scummy while avoiding you guys mostly. Sorry if I fuck it up with Terra tossing my name out suddenly.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 10:50:15 GMT -8
"And yes, for those who can count my FA isn't post poetry."
Boom goes the dynamite.
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Post by natiko on Feb 7, 2017 10:56:40 GMT -8
Btw AB I'm focusing on you out of us all because it fits my MO and you have the safest out of us all - you can claim to be an investigator and actually can back it up.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 10:57:21 GMT -8
Yeah, I had increasing suspicions on that. I think this places more doubt regarding Blarg's supposed FA, too.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 11:05:14 GMT -8
Btw AB I'm focusing on you out of us all because it fits my MO and you have the safest out of us all - you can claim to be an investigator and actually can back it up. All good. I am historically bad at D1, and while I was trying ot make an effort to improve this game the timing of days put a serious damper on that. Start of next day I will try to get more useful posts . Make it easier to walk back if needed, or bus me if things turn that way. As for Faddy, I think we should walk back the dogpile a bit. Partly because I feel bad it is his first game, and partly because I think there is enough suspicion on him for later. I will say as much as soon as I can find a good reason.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 11:06:20 GMT -8
Okay Terra just suicided it looks like. Good-bye cop at least! This should put a nail in Blarg I think.
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Post by absolutbro on Feb 7, 2017 11:09:11 GMT -8
None of us have votes on Terra, right? In case there is some craziness with his death.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 7, 2017 11:10:41 GMT -8
Actually, I'm not sure what happens after this. I'm not sure Blarg is going to be the primary target anymore. Splinter might begin arguing for me or absolutbro, but I don't think anyone else will latch onto that. I think people will begin voting for Faddy. I just realized it was his first game since it wasn't marked in the OP. Unfortunate, heh, I might have acted differently if I realized that.
Or not.
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