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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:08:12 GMT -8
Mainly because we almost certainly have to kill OA because he looks super good for not saving himself. Will probably lead to people culling up his posts. We'll see though.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:10:40 GMT -8
Well there we go. Okay so this is great news for us since we weren't even the ones talking about forcing a double lynch. It also means tomorrow if one of us has to bus the other it'll go to 2-1 the next day too. We just need one mislynch in the next two days.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 13:11:35 GMT -8
I wouldn't think it'd be that big of a deal, but seems like we won't have to think about that anyways. With our kill, the next one's gonna be a weird Day phase.
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 20, 2017 13:15:35 GMT -8
Remember that you only have 24 hours to submit your night actions.
As tomorrow will be MYLO/LYLO, a number of forbidden actions will be revoked, and players will be informed of this via PM. Flux's would have been if he still had one. Of the fake FA's given in the OP, turboing a player and Having a vote on someone other than the vote leader at EOD would have been revoked, none of the others would have been.
The exact PM if you need it for a fake claim will be:
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:18:24 GMT -8
Thanks for the info Crimson!
Well I think we're in a really good position here. I fully expect Ty and Sorian to turn on each other. Unless you're the one lynched tomorrow I think we're in a great position. Do we want to kill Star or Stanley?
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 13:24:56 GMT -8
I think we should kill Stanley. I have no idea who he'll decide to target after this day, and it could potentially lead to something bad if it was one of us. StarSketch doesn't contribute nearly enough for her to be a threat, and she goes with the flow of the town. That'll continue onto D5.
You still have a roleblock shot left, right? Who are you going to use it on?
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:27:48 GMT -8
I'm not sure it even matters much at this point but I could just use it on Stanley as well to ensure there's nothing silly that happens if he isn't vanilla.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 13:31:07 GMT -8
That sounds right. A bad scenario would be that we find out there's someone with a pretty crucial role that we would have wanted to block instead, but that's (hopefully) unlikely at this point.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:45:59 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure Ty is just vanilla. Sorian could be an option but I'm not all that convinced it will do anything for us. Do we think there's any chance there's a neutral remaining? It really doesn't seem like it.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 13:47:40 GMT -8
Nope, I would be extremely surprised if there's a neutral left.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 13:59:44 GMT -8
Yeah so it comes down to what do we think is more likely - Stan having an ability of any kind or Sorian having one that isn't commuter.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 14:13:59 GMT -8
For my claim if forced I'm thinking Backup Investigator. I need to look up how they've been formatted in past games, but Terra dies D1 then I get a one shot investigation that I used on Sorian (who I actually targeted that night) and I believe in D2 I jumped him from null to town and he has stayed there all game. Don't think I'll share all that unless forced to though.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 14:26:19 GMT -8
That sounds pretty good. The nature of a late game reveal like that makes it inherently risky, but it would hopefully work out.
I don't think StanleyPalmtree is a power role, based on his FA and his posts. I do think Sorian is a commuter, though of which variety, I do not know. We kill Stanley but actually roleblock Sorian just in case it was a grand ploy and he's actually a different kind of Power Role.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 14:37:33 GMT -8
Yeah, but I can't say I'm vanilla with that name claiming FA. Alternatively if we can come up with a different FA claim I could do that too.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -8
A different FA could relate to that condition of FAs changing because we're in MYLO/LYLO. The FAs of those who are alive: I would have gotten a notice if I still had my FA. Ty4on's could be, but I doubt it. That means there's likely no one alive who could corroborate that notice, so maybe it wouldn't help.
Anyways, should I go ahead and kill Stanley?
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 15:52:23 GMT -8
Yeah no reason to not get that in now. We can continue to discuss options for the roleblock and fake claim.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 15:56:17 GMT -8
I could go with the vote leader one that would have been revoked as I have yet to break it. Could say that's part of why I've been so aggressive, but I'm not sure it sounds like a very town FA to have to always bandwagon lol
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 16:07:03 GMT -8
Roger that.
Kill StanlyPalmtree
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 16:07:52 GMT -8
Ah, dammit. Let's try that again:
Kill StanleyPalmtree
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 19:06:30 GMT -8
I'm still inclined to say Stanley as it's the safer play ultimately I think.
Do you know of any games that had backup roles at gafia I could look at the pm flip of? I know Zelda had one but they were neutral.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 20, 2017 19:26:45 GMT -8
Sorry, I don't know about that.
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Post by natiko on Feb 20, 2017 20:23:48 GMT -8
No worries, I'll just base it off the verbiage from the neutral one if it comes to that. There's some chance even if I whiff the claim slightly that by trying to clear Sorian with it we may be able to just ride that to victory even if I get lynched.
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 21, 2017 1:12:15 GMT -8
Confirmed killing Stanley.
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Post by natiko on Feb 21, 2017 6:10:31 GMT -8
Give present: StanleyPalmtree
Just to get one down.
What do you think of saying I got no result when checking Sorian? It's less of a gamble and could be explained by either his power or a roleblock but that once he claimed I was afraid to say anything since I had no way of knowing if I would get him night killed? I think I even responded with a little bit of concern D2 then D3 when he said the rest I instantly believed.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 21, 2017 9:19:55 GMT -8
Wait, what is your investigation ability supposed to do? You mean to claim that you're a Backup Cop? If so, trying it on Sorian will be risky stuff. There's too much coincidence if you end up saying that you investigated him on a night he wasn't away, you're just now claiming your role on potentially the last day of the game, and you were role blocked the night you investigated Sorian. Sorian himself would be the one to attack you for it if you guess wrong.
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Post by natiko on Feb 21, 2017 9:49:50 GMT -8
It's a gamble either way once I claim. If I say I got a result it'll be a coin flip on if we hit the day he could be targeted or not. Alternatively we can say I used it on someone dead but that'll be shredded as too easy of a claim.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 21, 2017 13:59:20 GMT -8
That's right: I realize that I probably should have taken my vote off of OceanicAir yesterday and put it on nin, just so there could be more people for a possible mislynch to happen. That was a mistake.
I don't know if anyone else would have really suspected Stanley, so I'm not sure if killing him was a mistake or not. As I thought, though, keeping Sorian alive was dangerous. As the game progresses, he could be the reason we lose. Maybe we should have taken the risk to kill him the night that I thought about it.
In any case, he's very likely going to be voting for you. StarSketch will follow the lead of where the flow goes. Ty4on still might be suspicious of Sorian. I wanted to keep relaxed and not be forced to turbo once the opportunity came today, but we might not have that luxury. twice now I've seen how that's blown up in scum's faces, though, so I don't know about that.
What I do think, though, is that our out here might be to implicate Sorian. He's not a target for your reads, so I might need to get Ty4on on board and hope StarSketch follows along.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 21, 2017 13:59:51 GMT -8
Also, I can guarantee that the claim you came up with will just reinforce Sorian's desire to lynch you, if you come out with it.
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Post by natiko on Feb 21, 2017 14:17:26 GMT -8
I'm not worried about getting lynched. I'm worried about getting chain lynched. We just have to maneuver so that we don't get back to back lynched.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Feb 21, 2017 14:18:19 GMT -8
So Ty4on did get that FA removal notice, after all. No one else should have gotten it.
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