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Post by franconp on Dec 21, 2016 10:22:27 GMT -8
Why? 1 alpha and 1 mystic.
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Post by franconp on Dec 21, 2016 10:26:26 GMT -8
And 1 vanilla. I forgot to add it before.
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Post by Flush on Dec 21, 2016 10:28:24 GMT -8
Why? 1 alpha and 1 mystic. No, the Vanilla Wolf isn't really in play. It's a "card 4" that can't be interacted with and gets switched in when the Alpha converts someone. That's why there are 16 cards for 12 players. Nobody can start as Vanilla Wolf.
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Post by Flush on Dec 21, 2016 10:29:55 GMT -8
I know that's confusing af and really threw me off the last time I played ONUW here.
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Post by natiko on Dec 21, 2016 10:40:05 GMT -8
Mystic Wolf can't look at the cards in the middle right?
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Post by franconp on Dec 21, 2016 10:40:27 GMT -8
I last played a long time ago (I think it was the first one) and it didn't had all this crazy roles.
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Post by franconp on Dec 21, 2016 10:41:15 GMT -8
Mystic Wolf can't look at the cards in the middle right? it says "player's role" in the description.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 10:42:11 GMT -8
Yea I'm also curious if the doppelgänger was in play and was interacted with via the robber or insomniac, if that person would have seen just the dopple card as it is in real life or if they would see what the dopple would have become after acting.
Lone wolf would mean either card 1 or card 2 would be wolf. And since we had the dopple claim drunk and grab card 2 while both our non dopple drunks claim to grab card 1 the wolf would be out and about. And of course this ignores the fact that one of me or Cabot is lying. I know it's him but y'all don't so gotta factor that in as well.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 10:43:16 GMT -8
Mystic Wolf can't look at the cards in the middle right? mystic wolf looks at one other persons card. If the alpha wolf was not in play the mystic wolf would also get to look at one of the cards in the middle. (If you look and see the other wolf card that shit is so depressing btw)
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 10:43:47 GMT -8
This also ignores the fact that one of melon and sorian is lying and that robber!Crimson has changed his story now.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 10:46:23 GMT -8
Sawneeeeeeks. Pleaaaaase
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Post by natiko on Dec 21, 2016 10:55:49 GMT -8
Mystic Wolf can't look at the cards in the middle right? mystic wolf looks at one other persons card. If the alpha wolf was not in play the mystic wolf would also get to look at one of the cards in the middle. (If you look and see the other wolf card that shit is so depressing btw) I did not know that. It's in Sawneeks best interests to come claim something for the first card then even if it's all a lie.
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 10:56:20 GMT -8
So why are you claiming Drunk then? Give me a few minutes, I'll try to get the role flowchart up to date. Usually Sawneeks always does this but apparently she is MIA... I was just throwing that out there. What I actually think is swampie is a wolf who counter claimed me, you doppled the wolf and backed her claim. cab's play feels either tanner/minion to me. Don't know wtf is going on with sorian.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:04:24 GMT -8
So why are you claiming Drunk then? Give me a few minutes, I'll try to get the role flowchart up to date. Usually Sawneeks always does this but apparently she is MIA... I was just throwing that out there. What I actually think is swampie is a wolf who counter claimed me, you doppled the wolf and backed her claim. cab's play feels either tanner/minion to me. Don't know wtf is going on with sorian. if anything in that situation id assume flush was the minion. No need to tie both wolves together if not needed. I don't see a flush dopple wolf saying the actual person they Doppler. Too eggs in one basket for me.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:05:46 GMT -8
Also I am kind of bummed about forum onuw not having my favorite part of live ONUW which is shouting "if you're a wolf vote SEAN" right as the app says 3,2,1,VOTE!
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Post by Flush on Dec 21, 2016 11:06:04 GMT -8
Why am I out of all people doing this again? Typing this on mobile is painful...
So, as of page 15, this is the claimed situation (exclamation marks mean the person has seen the roleclard):
Royal_Flush - Doppelganger ->!Drunk (Swamped) ->? (Card 2) Sawneeks - Seer:!? (card 1) and! Tanner's Wife (card 3) Melonrabbit - Mason: Sorian Sorian - Tanner -> Tanner's Wife (card 3) -> Drunk (Swamped) CrimsonFist - Robber ->! Vanilla Wolf (CzarTim) -> Robber (CzarTim) Franconp - Witch:! Tanner's Wife (card 3) and Tanner (Sorian) Cabot - Troublemaker: Robber (CzarTim) and Vanilla Wolf (CrimsonFist) Kawl_USC - Troublemaker:? (?) and Drunk (Swamped) CzarTim - Drunk ->? (card 1) Swamped - Drunk ->? (card 1) Natiko - Insomniac StanleyPalmtree - Villager
Missing : Alpha Wolf Mystic Wolf Minion Mason 2
Notes: I don't get the motivation of the lie from either Sorian or Melonrabbit. If CrimsonFist is telling the truth than this means that the Alpha Wolf is in play. Franconp confirms that Sawneeks indeed saw at least card 3.
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:06:15 GMT -8
True, but that means the dopple is in the center.
Or you're the dopple, fucking with ud?
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:09:31 GMT -8
Are you claiming Trouble marker? make it double .
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:10:11 GMT -8
True, but that means the dopple is in the center. Or you're the dopple, fucking with ud? nah he could have doppled minion which is one of the worst case scenarios for town tbh
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:10:33 GMT -8
lol that was a play on team rocket, but that is pretty funny
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:10:44 GMT -8
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:11:34 GMT -8
Also nice write up flush I appreciate the effort that must have taken.
Don't understand the sorian line though.
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:12:12 GMT -8
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:13:36 GMT -8
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:15:50 GMT -8
Neeeeks
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Post by melonrabbit on Dec 21, 2016 11:20:15 GMT -8
Caaaaard onnnnne?
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:20:32 GMT -8
pleeeassee
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Post by Mazre on Dec 21, 2016 11:20:48 GMT -8
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VOTES ARE TO BE SENT TO ME VIA PM at NeoGAF. You may only vote once and your first vote is your final vote. You will have 24 hours to submit your vote. As soon as I have all the votes I can reveal the results.
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Post by CzarTim on Dec 21, 2016 11:23:33 GMT -8
we're trying to seance saw here, maz. shoo
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Post by Kawl on Dec 21, 2016 11:24:44 GMT -8
As hard as I try finding Sawneeks suspicious doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It would require her to either know the exact three cards in the middle were alpha, seer, tanners wife or Fran to be lying and for her to have checked the middle and seen seer and be confident in her fake claim and that would mean witch is the third card in the middle and Fran is the minion. Both of those just take too big of a leap of faith to me.
I believe both of them. Which of no one else touched Sawneeks card unfortunately means I think Cabot is probably town now. You hear that Cabot. Stop lying and saw what's up now, you're town as town comes.
And I promise that this is the truth and the full extent of my night actions.
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