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Post by Burbeting on Sept 12, 2016 15:47:19 GMT -8
This is the Team Gabe Newell chat!
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Post by Retro on Sept 13, 2016 9:23:42 GMT -8
Retro here with a reminder:
1. Posts in this thread will not increase your post count. If you notice otherwise, contact me immediately, but I've double and triple checked the setting, so you should be fine. 2. Posts in this thread can only be searched by people who already have access to this thread. 3. You are as safe and secure as I can make you.
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Sept 18, 2016 10:26:27 GMT -8
The Chat was open during N1. It will open up again in N2.
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Sept 21, 2016 11:36:08 GMT -8
This chat is open during N2.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 21, 2016 18:33:22 GMT -8
To fellow caught Pokemon,
Hi, obvious questions first.
* Do you think our trainer is town?
* What do you think is my alignment.
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Post by Burbeting on Sept 23, 2016 9:11:05 GMT -8
An new Pokémon has joined Team Newell!
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Post by Burbeting on Sept 23, 2016 11:04:41 GMT -8
With Gabe Newell dead, this chat is open during days as well.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 23, 2016 11:12:54 GMT -8
I'm cursed to forever be a mason now, huh.
shit
hey CM, how are you today?
quick question before I get to the real important ones.
if you had to pick a favorite flavor of ice cream would it be vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry?
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 23, 2016 11:23:37 GMT -8
To fellow caught Pokemon, Hi, obvious questions first. * Do you think our trainer is town? * What do you think is my alignment. 1. I was going to say probably Town due to our additional win condition being 'have a larger pokemon team than other Town Factions' but seeing as our Mystery Trainer flipped ( ;____; rip ty ) it's not really much of a question anymore. I do wonder why he picked us though. :x 2. Unsure currently. I found your actions of Day 1 to be odd and rather aggressive, more so than you normally do. Day 2 felt better but I had questions regarding your final vote, although I plan to address those ( and those like your vote ) in the main thread as opposed to here. Reverse question: why do you ask? okay, my turn. Do you think we should come forward now that our Trainer is dead? Who do you think killed Ty? Scum is clearly possible but we now have 2 kills as opposed to just the 1 on Night 1 so either Scum got another kill ( ??? ) or there is a neutral killing power out there. I'm curious on your thoughts about this.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 23, 2016 22:38:17 GMT -8
Bonus Question:
What do you think the alignments are of Gaga and the Sophia/Topo Mystery Trainer?
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 23, 2016 22:49:21 GMT -8
ha, I just realized I went from Xbox Live to a Steam chat
heh
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 5:02:29 GMT -8
OMG.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 8:16:59 GMT -8
I'm cursed to forever be a mason now, huh. shit hey CM, how are you today? quick question before I get to the real important ones. if you had to pick a favorite flavor of ice cream would it be vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry? Chocolate.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 8:40:47 GMT -8
To fellow caught Pokemon, Hi, obvious questions first. * Do you think our trainer is town? * What do you think is my alignment. 1. I was going to say probably Town due to our additional win condition being 'have a larger pokemon team than other Town Factions' but seeing as our Mystery Trainer flipped ( ;____; rip ty ) it's not really much of a question anymore. I do wonder why he picked us though. :x 2. Unsure currently. I found your actions of Day 1 to be odd and rather aggressive, more so than you normally do. Day 2 felt better but I had questions regarding your final vote, although I plan to address those ( and those like your vote ) in the main thread as opposed to here. Reverse question: why do you ask? okay, my turn. Do you think we should come forward now that our Trainer is dead? Who do you think killed Ty? Scum is clearly possible but we now have 2 kills as opposed to just the 1 on Night 1 so either Scum got another kill (  ) or there is a neutral killing power out there. I'm curious on your thoughts about this. Do we want a repeat of PiR? We might just be targeted by scum at night though. Well I managed make myself look scummy 2 days in a row so I doubt anyone's going to believe me much. Might be a scum PR, 1 shot kill.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 24, 2016 9:53:28 GMT -8
I'm cursed to forever be a mason now, huh. shit hey CM, how are you today? quick question before I get to the real important ones. if you had to pick a favorite flavor of ice cream would it be vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry? Chocolate. You Team Rocket-loving son of a bitch Kyan picked the same thing. and he was Scum i'm on to you1. I was going to say probably Town due to our additional win condition being 'have a larger pokemon team than other Town Factions' but seeing as our Mystery Trainer flipped ( ;____; rip ty ) it's not really much of a question anymore. I do wonder why he picked us though. :x 2. Unsure currently. I found your actions of Day 1 to be odd and rather aggressive, more so than you normally do. Day 2 felt better but I had questions regarding your final vote, although I plan to address those ( and those like your vote ) in the main thread as opposed to here. Reverse question: why do you ask? okay, my turn. Do you think we should come forward now that our Trainer is dead? Who do you think killed Ty? Scum is clearly possible but we now have 2 kills as opposed to just the 1 on Night 1 so either Scum got another kill ( ??? ) or there is a neutral killing power out there. I'm curious on your thoughts about this. Do we want a repeat of PiR? We might just be targeted by scum at night though. Well I managed make myself look scummy 2 days in a row so I doubt anyone's going to believe me much. Might be a scum PR, 1 shot kill. What do you mean by the italicized? Explain plz And 'coming forward' would be both of us coming forward with this info. So unless they want to believe we are both lying I don't see why we would be labelled as suspicious for doing so. Looking over your shoulder for something? So you believe that Scum killed both Topo and Ty, then? you missed one more question btw
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 19:05:47 GMT -8
I read the XBox One chat. If I wanted to gain favor from you, why did I answer chocolate? I have enough problems in the main thread trying not to get lynched so I didn't say that to antagonize you either. I just like chocolate ice cream.
Regarding PiR.
- everyone focusing on both of us and argue if we are some combination of town or scum - neither of us should completely trust the other
Problem about not claiming is if either of us is NK, there's no way to verify that we were caught by Ty4on.
If scum did use a 1-shot last night, it seems that they are worried about the other trainers do when they catch Pokémon.
Also what question did I miss?
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 19:07:02 GMT -8
I don't know what to make of the other trainers alignment yet.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 19:45:32 GMT -8
Does coming forward now help town in anyway? Neither of us can prove the other is town.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 24, 2016 19:45:47 GMT -8
Does coming forward now help town in anyway? Neither of us can prove the other is town.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 24, 2016 22:47:20 GMT -8
I was joking about the ice cream thing. If I ever start using that as an actual scum hunting method please whack me over the head with a very heavy object. Personally I don't even like ice cream, I just like asking silly questions as an ice breaker. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And you seem really intent on keeping anything that could damage you negatively as far away from you as possible...
Why are you so afraid of getting lynched? So far your responses here have revolved around anything to keep you out of a negative spotlight and to keep you out of getting a lot of heat. Why?
You seem to also believe that Scum can somehow also be placed into a chat, despite having no evidence to support that. Where are you getting that from? Do you believe that the Scum Team are Pokemon and can be caught?
Follow up question before I get to yours, why do you sound so intent on not claiming? What does not claiming do to help Town?
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 25, 2016 3:04:02 GMT -8
You said you liked vanilla. I was right to be careful.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 25, 2016 5:00:19 GMT -8
Tell me the advantages of claiming right now rather than waiting a few more days.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 25, 2016 11:20:53 GMT -8
lol. Well, if I had to pick one it would be Vanilla.
Claiming now: -We alert the other Trainers that we are now uncatchable and are already a part of a team. -It tells everyone that we are connected. If something were to happen to one of us it would be strongly recommended to look at the other. If we did not come forward and one of us were to suddenly die then the other would be free to do whatever as suspicion would not fall on them. -We ignore the future "You two were in the same chat for Days and didn't come forward, why?" -We don't really explain anything mechanically if we come forward now since it was all explained in Ty's flip but you are going to have to explain what you see as the benefits of not claiming are.
your turn c:
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 25, 2016 17:13:35 GMT -8
What do you think should be done to TheG?
Similarly, do you believe Sophia/Star is Scum?
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 25, 2016 18:17:07 GMT -8
Why not to claim now...
- I have a theory that trainers can only catch town pokemon, nothing to back it up, just the fact that there are "hidden" conditions to catch one. Maybe that's the extra info that mafia know. Maybe the majority of the mafia team are not pokemons and trainers act as our cops. If we are "confirmed" town, we should lie low until closer to the end game. - We could still get lynched since we can't prove our alignment. - We automatically become NK targets, I suppose if that's true then it's puts more weight into my point above. Initially I thought I could try and stave off a lynch for a few more days before revealing. Yes, if something were to happen to me, you couldn't prove that you were caught.
I agree with you on the point about letting the other trainers know we've been caught. They don't waste their nights trying to catch us.
Since she's been caught, I'm going to say StarSketch is town until new info turns up.
I'm going to do a re-read of the thread so will post later what I think of TheGoddamn.
Also who is your number #1 mafia suspect right now?
What do you think is the mafia team like? Experienced players or quiet players? Do you see someone like *Splinter leading them?
I don't think town has any idea what to do.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 25, 2016 21:09:54 GMT -8
If you still want to claim, don't mention on which night you were caught.
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 25, 2016 21:11:13 GMT -8
If you still want to claim, don't mention on which night you were caught. There's no particular reason for me asking you to do this. Just thought it might come in handy down the line.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 25, 2016 21:59:37 GMT -8
3 pseudo-cops in one game would go beyond Harry Potter Mafia levels of ridiculousness. You were in that game, you remember how I used my Item power to Cop-check Hyper and get him lynched in the last minute. It was an unintended side-effect to be sure, but it was still a powerful ability and it got Scum lynched. Since you are unsure of what to think of the alignment of the other Trainers, then I take it you don't believe there could be a Scum Trainer? That would slim down your pseudo-cop suggestion to 2 instead of 3 since a Scum Trainer wouldn't hit one of their own, but even then having 2 of those would be incredibly overpowered as well. Not to mention we don't know if we have a regular Cop in the game at all, possibly bumping the number back up to 3 Cops. This is assuming that Trainers can only catch people who are Town-aligned, meaning that whatever the Scum Team is ( 4 or 5 people? minus the Scum Trainer? ) would get hit pretty fast with 2-3 Cops making the rounds each Night.
No, if there is a Scum Trainer here then it's possible that Scum might have Pokemon PRs as well, meaning they can get caught, in order to balance it all out. That would mean the Trainers are still pseudo-cops but only towards themselves and the other 2 Trainers but it would be balanced out by having some of the Scum Team be able to be caught and not be Cop-checked that way. So part of the Team could get caught, the other part would be fine. It ignores the problem HP had without completely negating the Trainer mechanic. Although, thinking about it, I don't think the Scum Trainer recruits players to the Scum Team because Topo flipped Town and Gaga being Scum and getting killed N1 like that is still hard for me to wrap my mind around. So if TheG is the Scum Trainer then that doesn't directly indicate Star as Scum unless Star was lying about being caught??
bluh.
okay, moving on.
You argue that we are 'confirmed town' with your theory yet in your next point say that we can't prove our alignment at all. If that's the case, why do you use that to prove your point in that we should 'lie low' if we can't even confirm it??
I can't argue with the NK target bit. With Topo being NKed it looks like caught players are being targeted and if we came forward we would be put onto the firing line with a giant target on our backs.
I agree with you on Star. She isn't my main concern right now but I will be watching her in the coming Days.
Top Scum TheG for both mechanic reasons of the already-described Scum Trainer and I personally Scum read him outside of that. Darryl was an unknown to me on Day 1 as I was conflicted on his actions but I did not like how TheG acted on Day 2 with his vote, explanations, and overall actions. His 'weak' vote I called him out on during this Day phase was apparently a mistake ( that Star explained ) but I still want his responses to everything that has happened so far.
Mafia Team....I would guess a mix. We have far too many coasting players right now and I wouldn't be surprised if Scum was hiding there since it's a rather large pool and from what I've seen it's a very easy thing for quiet Scum players to do and get away with it. Yet at the same time I doubt all of the Scum Team is there and since my reads have been way off ( again ;______; ) there has to be a few of the more experienced players in the middle-to-high post count that are blending very well and keeping the attention away from the quiet players.
I said it in the main thread but I Town lean on Splinter. He seems more...relaxed this game? I don't know, it's the best way I can put it but he seems rather indifferent at times and that's almost the opposite of how he played last game. It's possible he is Scum and I'm just misreading him yet again but I personally don't see it, at least I haven't noticed anything overtly Scummy. Was there something that stood out to you that he did?
And I agree with that last bit. Having 3 Town flips like that hurt and it completely destroyed some of my reads and from going over the main thread it looks like there are a couple people that share that sentiment. We're all uncertain what to do and I think it's showing. It doesn't help that a couple people were busy this weekend and discussion just slowed to a halt as we wait for TheG and just focused on only one player.
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Post by Sawneeks on Sept 25, 2016 22:00:41 GMT -8
If you still want to claim, don't mention on which night you were caught. There's no particular reason for me asking you to do this. Just thought it might come in handy down the line. uh what if i said i don't believe you on that bit why shouldn't i?
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Post by Christina Mackenzie on Sept 26, 2016 1:04:11 GMT -8
Trainers can hit mafia (guessing majority are humans and not Pokemons) and not recruit them into their team but they wouldn't know the reasons why the capture failed. Either 1) Target could have been a trainer 2) Target could be a Pokemon already caught 3) Target is Team Rocket (human). I think it's plausible that 3 trainers as cops could work in this game. There's enough uncertainty surrounding a failed capture that they wouldn't immediately claim that person is mafia. Yes, maybe there could be 1 Pokemon on Team Rocket who can be recruited into a team like ours. I think a scum trainer makes things too complicated. Why would mafia need to kill and capture Pokemon? Doesn't that reduce town's numbers too quickly? Can the captured Pokemon can win as either Town or Mafia? You seem to think that StarSketch's mystery trainer could be scum because their information is slightly different than ours? I'm thinking it could be 2 town trainers and 1 neutral, so I'm thinking neutral? Without seeing Lady Gaga's PM info it's hard to come to a conclusion, is TheGoddamn the odd one out, Gabe Newell or are all 3 unique? 1) Gabe Newell, can't talk to Pokemon 2) TheGoddamn, can talk to Pokemon, roleblocks 3) Lady Gaga,  Yeah, my "trainers catch town pokemon" is just a theory. I think that's the way the game is balance but you can argue otherwise. I'm hoping that as the days go on, new info will turn up that could confirm it. Or maybe it's something like PiR where everyone was ordinary and prizes give out PRs. This was never mentioned to town, only mafia. Strongest indicator I have is that I'm pretty certain last night mafia decided to use their 1-shot to off El Topo or Ty4on. Top scum is Lone_Prodigy, it's just a gut read but I feel he isn't playing his usual style. I guess Splinter is a town read for me as well but like I'm wary of how good a player he is.
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