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Post by ultron87 on Jun 2, 2016 13:16:44 GMT -8
I don't think the ordinaries townies have character names, right? The example PM in the game thread OP just says "You are an Ordinary Townie." without a name. Terra, is that something you can confirm for us?
Also looking in that PM there are clearly also neutrals since our victory condition is having more than the non-alliance of evil people, but town has only town members. Not that I ever really doubted there would be neutrals.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jun 2, 2016 13:35:04 GMT -8
I can confirm that ordinary townies are called ordinary townies.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 2, 2016 15:32:47 GMT -8
When to use the strongman? I have no experience myself, but reading through the championship game Sorian is in they seemed to assume that scum's one shot bulletproof was used N1 because that's when they usually use it. They don't have as many claims as us, but I can see why. Strongman can die, doctor/protector can die. On the other hand it "feels" right to save it for potential high priority townies and that game had no doctor (and scum knew there was only a bodyguard).
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 2, 2016 15:52:46 GMT -8
So my day kill ability is that i can instantly lynch someone if they are 1 vote away from turbo I believe...which forces them to be lynched on that day. However I cannot vote on that person in order for my day kill to work. Although I do have a question, what happens if someone unvotes during the time I sent a PM to you terra? would that still count or does that not count? Is there any notification (for town) of this or are they just lynched? We could time it with one of our own votes and claim double, but that's super risky because I'm guessing we'd use it on strong townies and should gryv flip it'd make whomever made that fakeclaim into almost confirmed scum. Nice, that's quite powerful. That sounds like something you probably need to just keep in your pocket till late in the game. If you use it early people will get super suspicious. And it has the possibility to win us the game straight up if we make it down to a low player count scenario. If there is no notice we could just ignore it (pretend to figure it out  ) while town scratches their head. It's a powerful ability and I feel like waiting for lylo might be a waste. Its risky tho, especially if one of us are second in votes and town figures out no townie had that ability. |
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Post by gryvan on Jun 2, 2016 18:29:35 GMT -8
So my day kill ability is that i can instantly lynch someone if they are 1 vote away from turbo I believe...which forces them to be lynched on that day. However I cannot vote on that person in order for my day kill to work. Although I do have a question, what happens if someone unvotes during the time I sent a PM to you terra? would that still count or does that not count? Is there any notification (for town) of this or are they just lynched? We could time it with one of our own votes and claim double, but that's super risky because I'm guessing we'd use it on strong townies and should gryv flip it'd make whomever made that fakeclaim into almost confirmed scum. The convincing the double vote will be hard because apparently if i use my day kill, my flavor name "Hammerer" will appear on the vote count but I will still remain anonymous... So the town will see "Hammerer" on the lynched target And I don't think you can convince these towns that its a double vote power...or maybe you can if your a really good liar i dunno :/ Also I cannot target the hammer ability on my lynch target if I'm voting for that lynch target. I have to vote someone else in order for me to hit that lynch target. I guess its a good way to misdirect :x |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 2, 2016 18:37:34 GMT -8
Ah. That definitively sounds like it should raise alarm bells about it being a scum ability. I think it's best to just stay silent about it. That fake claim was just my mind drifting Are you able to choose whom to lynch if two are tied, but one away from a turbo? Edit: Is it kosher for me to edit typos? |
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jun 2, 2016 18:46:03 GMT -8
Please do not edit your posts from now on.
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 2, 2016 21:10:43 GMT -8
If a situation comes up where the second place vote getter is also town, hammering could be decent as it would make that player look very suspicious.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 2:30:02 GMT -8
If a situation comes up where the second place vote getter is also town, hammering could be decent as it would make that player look very suspicious. Yeah, and we probably don't get a lot of opportunities. I just thought about it, but because gryvan can't vote for whomever he hammers it's not that powerful in lylo. Should we be in lylo he could just vote normally instead. Worth using if we still have it I guess should town have a way of countering that vote, but I don't think we should save it. |
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Post by Burbeting on Jun 3, 2016 5:49:14 GMT -8
Ghost bear wishes for luck
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jun 3, 2016 6:42:39 GMT -8
I see I missed this. Ah. That definitively sounds like it should raise alarm bells about it being a scum ability. I think it's best to just stay silent about it. That fake claim was just my mind drifting Are you able to choose whom to lynch if two are tied, but one away from a turbo? Edit: Is it kosher for me to edit typos? The command gryvan has is HAMMER: [player name] So yes, in that scenario he could choose. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 7:22:00 GMT -8
Thanks!
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 13:56:45 GMT -8
How would you guys say you scum hunt?
For me it's mostly tone and the types of posts they make. Posts that I like have an airy feel like the person isn't making anything up and doesn't care how their post is read. I tend to give people that are showing friction the benefit of the doubt and attack people that stay in the shadows and make posts that feel "manufactured".
I'm also super uncertain of myself. I may not make that clear, but it will cause me to ask people all sorts of random questions.
When scum is found I will look at friction between scum and other people and town read if it feels genuine.
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Had I been town in this game I feel like I would probably be a bit suspicious of Matt and ultron as they tend to be quiet and make very rational, but not very "emotional" posts.
Maybe a bit too early, but I want to set up some busses so we don't get caught off guard. I'm scared that I will be super obvious scum and want us to be prepared should we need to bus.
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Post by Matt on Jun 3, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -8
I usually avoid going after highly inactive players, instead focusing on those who keep a constant yet subdued presence. For better or for worse, I tend to find little things in people's posts that grow to bug me, especially when people seem inclined to forgive and forget. Oftentimes I'll bring something up that simply goes without a response; that sets off alarm bells for me. I'm hesitant to believe a lot of claims, usually erring on the side of believing that the simplest solution is most likely the true one. I've also found myself becoming really, really unforgiving of "Blarg being Blarg": this really doesn't apply to anybody else but the moment he gets started, I'm pretty much ready for the lynch.
Like you, I also find myself looking at how the interactions between confirmed scum and other players sound. I've begun to get pretty big on seeing how potential scum players and confirmed scum players try to distance themselves from each other.
And we definitely want to have a plan ready for bussing. It'd be nice to not have to do so, but it's clearly a really powerful tool when used appropriately.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 16:53:41 GMT -8
And we definitely want to have a plan ready for bussing. It'd be nice to not have to do so, but it's clearly a really powerful tool when used appropriately. I'm thinking of mostly throwing shade and maybe a token vote so the bus doesn't come from nowhere. I'm not thinking of leading a lynch on anyone, but being prepared so we don't all end up on the wrong side of the vote. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 17:04:57 GMT -8
I usually avoid going after highly inactive players, instead focusing on those who keep a constant yet subdued presence. For better or for worse, I tend to find little things in people's posts that grow to bug me, especially when people seem inclined to forgive and forget. Oftentimes I'll bring something up that simply goes without a response; that sets off alarm bells for me. I'm hesitant to believe a lot of claims, usually erring on the side of believing that the simplest solution is most likely the true one. I've also found myself becoming really, really unforgiving of "Blarg being Blarg": this really doesn't apply to anybody else but the moment he gets started, I'm pretty much ready for the lynch. Obviously think it through, but doubting claims is a good thing. It's very easy for scum to be too trusting of claims because one knows it's probably correct and want to look good. I'll try to create some suspicion of people that seem to immediately trust them should that happen. I did the same in GAFia 2 when Launch claimed on D1. I'm not sure what to do with Blarg either, but we'll see what happens I guess. He could confuse town more than us. I've usually been more forgiving of him, but there's nothing wrong with something distancing us I will probably end up in something with Corn. Our playstyles seem to match and I've scum read him a lot as town in the past. I'm scared though because he can be really good at finding weaknesses. Not sure what's going to happen with Crimson. He and I end up chatting about games and mechanics in the discord, but I've never clashed with him in a game and usually town read him. If we had an N0 nk I would want to kill him because he seems like a good player who's improving. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 17:07:00 GMT -8
Lots of players that scare me when I look back at the playerlist :S It'll be fun though  |
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Post by theworthyedge on Jun 3, 2016 17:17:47 GMT -8
Lots of players that scare me when I look back at the playerlist :S It'll be fun though Oh. We should be scared. Lol But this will be great. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 3, 2016 18:15:13 GMT -8
Lots of players that scare me when I look back at the playerlist :S It'll be fun though Oh. We should be scared. Lol But this will be great. Regardless of what happens you'll be the best scum team. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 4, 2016 9:10:20 GMT -8
Does anyone know which of the safe names suit a bulletproof? I was wondering about claiming that should shit hit the fan. If we have a serial killer who hits me it could also help semi clear me.
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Post by Matt on Jun 4, 2016 10:36:34 GMT -8
Does anyone know which of the safe names suit a bulletproof? I was wondering about claiming that should shit hit the fan. If we have a serial killer who hits me it could also help semi clear me. I'm thinking Dash Baxter, considering his bulky build and athletic prowess. I've also had a similar but slightly different idea for Maddie Fenton. Rather than having a double vote, how about she gets none due to grief? It requires us to sacrifice a vote if we do decide to go with that plan, but it would be more easily explainable than the double vote. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 4, 2016 16:55:23 GMT -8
Does anyone know which of the safe names suit a bulletproof? I was wondering about claiming that should shit hit the fan. If we have a serial killer who hits me it could also help semi clear me. I'm thinking Dash Baxter, considering his bulky build and athletic prowess. I've also had a similar but slightly different idea for Maddie Fenton. Rather than having a double vote, how about she gets none due to grief? It requires us to sacrifice a vote if we do decide to go with that plan, but it would be more easily explainable than the double vote. Thanks! I'll look up Dash Baxter and see if I can make something out of it. I know nothing about the fluff, but I found it interesting that my bulletproof-ness is called ghost resiliency (sounds like the other killing role is a ghost or half ghost) and I'm a godfather because of my human DNA. I'm Vlad BTW. I'm reading up on it, but all I've figured out is that Danny and I are hybrids. |
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Post by cabot on Jun 5, 2016 6:06:58 GMT -8
I've awoken from my gin coma to pop on over and wish you the best of luck.
Lots of players I like in this team. Except Ultron.
Never Ultron.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 5, 2016 15:40:10 GMT -8
Would commuter be a good fake claim should anyone get in trouble? The setup may A: Hint at no commuter, but rather focus on protectors (strongman) so the chance of a counterclaim is low. Or if there is one B: Should the commuter counterclaim we at the very least know who it is. At the very least it would be useful as even the strongman can't kill them. Thanks for all the well wishes! |
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 6, 2016 6:23:53 GMT -8
I'd like to at least try and save Strongman till we have a target that seems plausible to get protected? If that's night 1 we can go for it. Gotta be careful of trackers though. I've awoken from my gin coma to pop on over and wish you the best of luck. Lots of players I like in this team. Except Ultron. Never Ultron.  |
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 6, 2016 6:25:33 GMT -8
I guess I could volunteer to get bused if that becomes needed since I'm the vanilla goon. Can at least throw a few votes my way if people want.
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 6, 2016 6:27:49 GMT -8
But not like in an obvious organized manner of course.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 6, 2016 8:29:13 GMT -8
I guess I could volunteer to get bused if that becomes needed since I'm the vanilla goon. Can at least throw a few votes my way if people want. I'll see how things go, but I usually pressure quiet people and may throw a vote your way. Agreed on saving the strongman, but if he's under pressure D1 and looking like a likely lynch the next days it could be worth it to "waste" him on people the that are active and town read. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 6, 2016 8:31:20 GMT -8
Trackers are possible, but Palmer rated that role as bastard(ish) for its strength.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 6, 2016 8:34:00 GMT -8
Trackers are possible, but Palmer rated that role as bastard(ish) for its strength. Scratch that, I thought of the watcher (sees whom targets a player, not who the player targeted). I always mix those up |
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) while town scratches their head. It's a powerful ability and I feel like waiting for lylo might be a waste. Its risky tho, especially if one of us are second in votes and town figures out no townie had that ability.
