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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:15:55 GMT -8
"Confirmed town sucks" Agreed, not sure how else to handle a chief though BTW was fire able to write multiple names or just one at a time? At first, it was multiple. Then I changed it to one (thinking it would be too powerful); I would probably change it back to multiple, or give the entire team the opportunity to write. That seems like a tenuous balance, though. The game maybe seemed a little more like scum would rely on votes to kill most people, not just write names - but that also was taking a very long time, at this pace. |
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 17, 2016 7:17:22 GMT -8
Story of few days ago: Me: Fireblend is kira, right? Kark: Lol how'd you know? Always be lynching Fireblend  . |
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 7:17:39 GMT -8
Just have the chief change each day. Make it cycle through the list of players, or give it to the last person to hold it. Cycling through the list of player's would be fine. Giving it to the last doesn't seem good. That was a real punishment, I think, for killing the chief because now the worst person from the day before starts with it. |
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:17:49 GMT -8
I think the voting system was interesting, but this particular game (even in this form) is too complicated to introduce it.
I also wouldn't cycle the Chief. Another purpose to the role was for there to be a "structure" to the proceedings (as if you really were in a detective setting) that can break into chaos if someone kills the Chief. Interestingly enough, the RNG set so that Fireblend and the Chief knew each other, and Fireblend could have killed him right away..
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 7:18:36 GMT -8
I think the voting system was interesting, but this particular game (even in this form) is too complicated to introduce it. Ouro and I were talking about it and this would be so rough to mod. The moderator has to be available pretty much all the time for random passes lol |
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Post by weemadarthur on Mar 17, 2016 7:19:48 GMT -8
I, for one, am done allegedly feeling sorry for Fireblend.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:20:59 GMT -8
I think the voting system was interesting, but this particular game (even in this form) is too complicated to introduce it. Ouro and I were talking about it and this would be so rough to mod. The moderator has to be available pretty much all the time for random passes lol It was really hard because of having to PM the Death Note. I think I would trust players to self-moderate the basic voting passes, but the Death Note meant I had to be there every single time, or else the player is stalled |
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 7:22:13 GMT -8
Ouro and I were talking about it and this would be so rough to mod. The moderator has to be available pretty much all the time for random passes lol It was really hard because of having to PM the Death Note. I think I would trust players to self-moderate the basic voting passes, but the Death Note meant I had to be there every single time, or else the player is stalled Exactly, near the end people were so dead set on everything that it didn't matter but in a real game, it would stall out every time at each pass if the mod wasn't there to PM the contents. |
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Post by Fireblend on Mar 17, 2016 7:23:18 GMT -8
Damn, I'm late to the convo. I was feeling confident I could make it at least 2 more rounds, but yeah, long term I have no idea how Kira could win. The chips were delicious though.  |
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 17, 2016 7:23:20 GMT -8
The system would need multiple mods.
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Post by Gorlak on Mar 17, 2016 7:23:22 GMT -8
I enjoyed the game, it was pretty funny :)
Ultimately I don't like the voting system, but it was a nice test.
(and my name was...
*drumroll*
Rain Aston)
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Post by weemadarthur on Mar 17, 2016 7:26:43 GMT -8
Oh I thought that car was a Crossfire
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:27:05 GMT -8
The reason I insisted on the passing being so methodical is because power roles were supposed to act when they held the book (usually, affecting the book in some way), so there would be a lot more to do than look at the same three names and pass it on
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Post by Splinter on Mar 17, 2016 7:27:13 GMT -8
Sawneeks really had no group? That was weird, had me worried that Sorian would somehow wriggle away  (I considered my win condition changed as soon as Sorian posted that slip. By the end I was just wondering how much I could get away with without him accusing me) |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 7:29:30 GMT -8
I liked the game, but I know I was not helpful on day 2 (with being out of town)
For all the guff I got day 1, I was trying to break the game. Sometimes an over load of knowledge can break a game (one way or another) and we have to be willing to challenge that on these play tests.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 7:29:46 GMT -8
Sawneeks really had no group? That was weird, had me worried that Sorian would somehow wriggle away (I considered my win condition changed as soon as Sorian posted that slip. By the end I was just wondering how much I could get away with without him accusing me) All the Kira's not being in a group seemed waaaaaaay too stupid but it was all I had lol Me dying was dumb so I was grasping at whatever to stop it. |
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Post by Fireblend on Mar 17, 2016 7:29:50 GMT -8
And yeah with no incentives for town to provide names, it's hard to see how scum's strategy could move beyond "hope you don't get lynched for the first half of the game and maaaaaybe risk writing on the book after that". I was planning to suggest maybe Kira had an incomplete "name table" of sorts, and he had to figure out names by investigating people and matching the other part of their names to the result from that investigation. That's where I was going with my fake name + real second name thing.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:30:33 GMT -8
That's why Zipped is my destined GAFIA partner
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Post by Fireblend on Mar 17, 2016 7:31:25 GMT -8
Also Roy if we ever meet in real life and you're not wearing an Always Be Lynching Fireblend shirt I'm going to be disappointed.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:42:44 GMT -8
I'm happy that a lot of the game-runner types in the community participated, because hopefully this was informative for you guys, too
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 17, 2016 7:43:27 GMT -8
Yes, now I know what not to do.
<3
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 7:44:04 GMT -8
So how about that Animal Crossing 2
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 8:04:28 GMT -8
So how about that Animal Crossing 2 doit.gif |
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 8:08:23 GMT -8
houses have to come back, btw
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Post by OceanicAir on Mar 17, 2016 8:10:19 GMT -8
I realized I had a hell of a day passing the book day 2, lol.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 17, 2016 8:18:06 GMT -8
You fuckers lynched the Scum Cop Day 1. W H Y Also I didn't entirely mean to bus Sawneeks Expected Kawl to pass to Gorlak, Gorlak passes to Sawneeks. Rip CornBro But instead I get confirmed townie status #Xanatos I'm still salty. It's all Kawl's fault. Sawneeks really had no group? That was weird, had me worried that Sorian would somehow wriggle away :( (I considered my win condition changed as soon as Sorian posted that slip. By the end I was just wondering how much I could get away with without him accusing me) Nope! Got the short end of the stick on that one. At first I thought people were BSing about the group names but once more started to chime in I got nervous. If pushed on it I'm not sure if I would have claimed solo and I miiiight have ended up throwing one of you under the bus because we were in a 'group'. >.>; Glad that never happened. |
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 8:23:06 GMT -8
In retrospect, I should have sent Sawneeks a PM saying she had no friends.
No, actually, the scum should have really known each other's names, too
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 17, 2016 8:54:32 GMT -8
In retrospect, I should have sent Sawneeks a PM saying she had no friends.Hurtful, Kark. ;__; It would have helped to be honest. I had no idea there was a buddy system until people brought it up and even knowing I had 0 people in a group would have been better than being blind. No, actually, the scum should have really known each other's names, too It's so Fire could have killed us if we got out of line, right? #Gambit2016 |
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 17, 2016 8:57:28 GMT -8
Wait, they didn't even know each other? Yeah, that's broken.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 17, 2016 8:57:56 GMT -8
No, actually, the scum should have really known each other's names, too It's so Fire could have killed us if we got out of line, right? #Gambit2016 Can one man have all this power? I would have killed Splinter day 1. |
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