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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 7:05:04 GMT -8
For what it's worth, I was getting the same impression regarding Coppa and Flame as Flux.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 7:46:38 GMT -8
Not confident on my vote against Gorlak, but that pair is rubbing me the wrong way.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 7:51:25 GMT -8
It looks like El Topo is gonna try his hardest to convince people for a Flux/Time vote. I'm not going for it.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 7:55:42 GMT -8
God I'll be so glad when this day phase is over. Having a few real life days in the night phase to talk things over, play some games, and not have to worry about reading the thread will be a blessing.
Off-topic: Maybe "Miss Congeniality" should be an actual award given for a player who can go through Day 1 without any suspcision? XD
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Post by Retro on Feb 18, 2016 8:09:23 GMT -8
God I'll be so glad when this day phase is over. Having a few real life days in the night phase to talk things over, play some games, and not have to worry about reading the thread will be a blessing. Off-topic: Maybe "Miss Congeniality" should be an actual award given for a player who can go through Day 1 without any suspcision? XD Miss Congeniality might be your new tag when this game is over. I've never really been satisfied with Ms. Roboto, but, you know, ANDROID Sophia.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 8:10:12 GMT -8
God I'll be so glad when this day phase is over. Having a few real life days in the night phase to talk things over, play some games, and not have to worry about reading the thread will be a blessing. Off-topic: Maybe "Miss Congeniality" should be an actual award given for a player who can go through Day 1 without any suspcision? XD Miss Congeniality might be your new tag when this game is over. I've never really been satisfied with Ms. Roboto, but, you know, ANDROID Sophia. Hey I can change that easily. ;p
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 8:33:46 GMT -8
If past logic dictates, the fact that Flux is coming off as townie means he's proooobably scum. But I can't ignore the townie vibes right now.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 8:38:12 GMT -8
Xam chiming in such a key part of the day is obnoxious as fuck. :\
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 18, 2016 8:48:56 GMT -8
Xam chiming in such a key part of the day is obnoxious as fuck. :\ He has been shamed of it once again
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 9:18:01 GMT -8
Damn Ty4on, even I didn't see that. Interesting.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 18, 2016 9:33:40 GMT -8
I have a weird feeling this is a bus by Flux, but it seems very far fetched.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 9:34:11 GMT -8
Yeah.... it does strike me as odd.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 9:40:07 GMT -8
I'm out of it right now (feel sick IRL), but is it just me or are a lot of people jumping on Never Forever? I mean if true his power isn't too great but it feels like there's a bandwagon going on there.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 9:44:46 GMT -8
"If the Never Forever and CzarTim team actually proves to be scum, anyone still on my case on D2 is an immediate scum tell."
Uh, doesn't quite work that way Flux... :\
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 9:56:53 GMT -8
I'm gonna take a good look at the chain of votes during the night time phase and try to organize everything. I think we'll find a pattern there no matter how Never Forever and Tim flip, and I'd bet money it's on someone who voted right after Flux.
Lets see: At post #1407 the vote on them is
karu
coppanuva fluxwavez
launchpadmcq blargonaut
At #1460 it's now
karu
coppanuva fluxwavez
launchpadmcq blargonaut launchpadmcq ultrajay boo boo'n tl21xx
So Launch switched his vote back onto them at that point. Hmm.. need to see how they flip.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:01:56 GMT -8
I love that last minute "Holy shit, Ty4on and Sophia are Loveless.", lol.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:04:33 GMT -8
I don't even know who just got offed there. XD
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 18, 2016 10:08:26 GMT -8
There are so many people and votes it's not even funny. Like I went back counting when Cabot got the last minute votes, but never mind, NeverTim were at ELEVEN in the last vote count
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 18, 2016 10:18:41 GMT -8
Always so tempting to post in the twilight...
Please next mod, give me a twilight role
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:18:52 GMT -8
Lol
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:19:53 GMT -8
Town flip, go figure
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 18, 2016 10:20:38 GMT -8
Their town flip almost makes me town read Flux.
The slow reaction by Cabinter however...
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:24:34 GMT -8
Lore wise we just called the most lovey dovey couple to an angry bear. >_>
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:35:37 GMT -8
Hmm I'm having a hard time reading cabot there again. On one hand, it looks like he was just screwing around (was he drunk?), on the other hand....
DARN YOU WIZZINI!!!! AND DARN YOUR WINE TOOO!!!!! ;_;
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Post by Sophia on Feb 18, 2016 10:44:12 GMT -8
So, Launch unvoted because he didn't want a turbo... and yet revoted for the turbo at the Taylor Swift comment. That rubs me the wrong way. He later jumped on the cabot last second vote.
Lets see, what else stands out. Obviously Flux starting this bandwagon to begin with. Blarg unvoted and moved to Boo Boo'n.
Also I wonder how much trouble I'd get into for posting a Yukiko laughing gif at that You Tried star. XD
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Post by Sophia on Feb 19, 2016 7:37:46 GMT -8
Day 1 end timeline: - #1293 - cabot responds to El Topo - "Here's my thinking for [El Topo's] option 1 (which currrently I believe):"
- #1310 - FluxWaveZ - "The teams I'm most suspicious of right now are" - UltraJay/BooBoo'n + Kyanrute/Retroid + NeverForever/CzarTim + Sophia/Ty4on
- #1313 - Current Vote Talley by YNNNY - Only vote on CzarTim/NF is by Karu
- #1315 - Launchpad - "I generally agree with that opinion, Flux. It seems a little too late to do anything but discuss at this point, but NF/Tim have jumped out at me before. "
- #1318 - CzarTim votes for Boo Boo'N
- #1321 - Flux votes for CzarTim
- #1324 - CzarTim - "I agree with the sentiment, you're just wrong about the team "
- #1325 - Launch votes for CzarTim
- #1328 - Splinter - " But there are no idiot townies defending Tim... Idiot townies ALWAYS defend scum Tim... "
- #1329 - Zippedpinhead appears - "I think kawl/blarg and flux/time have set themselves up as role magnets"
- #1330 - Splinter comments on his own post from #1328 - "Oh ok, carry on"
- #1334 - NeverForever votes for Boo Boo'n
- #1338 - Ty4on chimes in - "Flux' post is long, but I find it a bit vague in places. Like what do you mean by "too telegraphed" and what makes Coppa and Flame stand out?"
- #1339 - Flux meta commentrary directed at CzarTim and NeverForever - "This is like how I acted when I was scum in Werewolf 2"
- #1343 - Flux responds to Ty4on
- #1344 - CzarTim - "People tend to over defend themselves, especially on day one[...]"
- #1345 - UltraJay reads, mocks his own lovers pair
- #1349 - Coppanuva votes Boo Boo'n - "Sorry you saw me as "hiding" yesterday" to Splinter
- #1350 - Flux meta commentrary - "Terrabyte from Werewolf 2 was self-deprecating on D1" "This is what caused Swamped (the Town vigilante) to shoot him on N1. Lo and behold, he was scum. "
- #1352 - Current vote tally by YNNNY - Four votes on CzarTim/NeverForever - Karu, Flux, Launch, Blarg.
- #1353 - Ty4on - "Vague and uncertain aren't the same thing. You can be very clear on what you're not certain of."
- #1354 - El Topo replies to cabot from #1293
- #1356 - Flux responds to you - "Better than lynching high profile teams simply because they're high profile."
- #1357 - Launch responds to Flux - "HMMMMM"
- #1359 - cabot to El Topo - "Because we have no information. If they claim they're blocked tomorrow and then we subsequently flip them to show them telling the truth that confirms something awry happened to their night ability. "
- #1360 - Blarg to Flux - "I am glad you understand this simple truth"
- #1361 - Cabot - "Sophia, magnum, time, TL all making us wait out in squeaky Bum time"
- #1362 - TL21xx appears and votes for Boo Boo'n
- #1363 - UltraJay votes for himself.
- #1364 - Sophia appears and votes for Gorlak - "In regards to Flux/Time lynching, I'm actually, and personally, getting town-ish vibes from Flux right now." "Right now the two pairs that bother me are Hyperactivty/Kingkitty and Gorlak/Launch."
- #1365 - Flux - "Oh god, come on."
- #1367 - Launch - "UltraJay is ordinary, calling it now for I told you so points."
- #1369 - Flux meta commentrary - "So Werewolf 2 was all about Townies self-voting out of desperation and frustration at the end of Day phases and subsequently getting lynched, which we laughed about in the scum chat. Don't let this happen again."
- #1370 - El Topo to UltraJay - "Fake information is useless. Delaying the inevitable is pointless."
- #1371 - Giant Panda to El Topo for forgetting his name - " I'm feeling generous and won't policy vote you for that. "
- #1373 - Kyanrute explains himself to UltraJay and Coppanuva's reads
- #1374 - El Topo - "I'd also like to clarify that it seems problematic to make the life of our (presumed) cop depend on whether or not he can deliver role names. What if he finds our doctor?"
- #1377 - batsnacks - "Wait who was the person that posted the notes was it hyper or launch? I thought it was launch I have people confused I think."
- #1378 - cabot to El Topo - "He gives the role name not the target."
- #1379 - Karkador to batsnacks - "Hyper"
- #1380 - Blargonaut - ""I don't need protection." - 2016 FluxWaveZ"
- #1381 - Launch - "Here are my notes so far" - blank piece of paper with "Cabot is scum"
- #1382 - cabot - " At least I can read your notes"
- #1384 - Boo Boo - "Seeing my own lover vote me..." "So, CzarTim is your vote on me just to get the ball rolling and break the tie?"
- #1385 - batsnacks to Launch - "Your notes have alignment info, which is what I would expect to see in a townie's notes." (Joke?)
- #1386 - Launch posts same image as in #1381 but now with "Sorian is the worst" written in
- #1388 - Karkador to batsnacks in #1385 - "Interesting"
- #1389 - Flux to Boo Boo'n - "Stop with the defeatist shit, it never, EVER does anything good."
- #1391 - Batsnacks votes Hyperactivity - "Anyway sorry I was voting the wrong person"
- #1395 - Launch votes kingkitty - " Damn, Bats, that makes a lot of sense"
- #1396 - Flux meta commentrary - "Eh, I get batsnacks' reasoning, but I know that I had extensive notes in Heist about the general situation and not alignment info on D1, and I was Town. I did the same to a lesser extent as a neutral in Werewolf 2. "
- #1398 - UltraJay - "A vote for me is a vote for scum!"
- #1401 - Flux to UltraJay - "Are you claiming you're Loveless?"
- #1402 - Launch to Flux - "He's saying when he flips, we'll have scum who have voted for him"
- #1404 - Boo Boo'n - " Launchpad is there any particular reason you went from thinking that Batsnacks' claim is interesting to immediately jumping on the same train for voting? "
- #1406 - Hyperactivity responds to batsnacks in #1385 - "Just woke up" "WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF LOGIC IS THIS" "God dammit, when I posted those notes it was to show that Iw as catching up on this thread NOTHING ELSE"
- #1407 - Current vote tally by Burbeting - Three votes on CzarTim and NeverForever: Karu, Flux, Blarg.
- #1408 - UltraJay responds to Boo Boo'n in #1404 - "Possibly because they are easier to get out than the Cabot lynch he actually wants."
- #1409 - Launch responds to Boo Boo'n in #1404 - "Because I thought about it?"
- #1410 - Hyperactivity votes Boo Boo'n - "I basically have to do this now"
- #1411 - Flux regarding the tied vote on Kingkitty/Hyperactive and UltraJay/BooBoo'n - "Guys, stop it. Neither of these will give us good results."
- #1412 - Boo Boo'n - "Batsnacks thing on hyper's posting ethics (is that even a phrase?) just seems to vague to apply SPECIFICALLY for that poster" " Again, I think Hyper is scum but not for THAT reason alone"
- #1413 - Hpyeractivity to Launch in #1409 - "Yo're free to think that, I'm not going to waste time on you if you seriously believe that"
- #1414 - Launch unvotes - " I'm watching and waiting.. "
- #1416 - Canjo-Z - "that feel when u a townie and get lynched by one vote cuz u threw a tantrum and voted yourself "
- #1417 - Flux - "CzarTim and Never Forever are the ones who started this Boo Boo'n vote mess after Boo Boo'n's team only had 2 votes, which started immediately after a bit of suspicion started going CzarTim's way."
- #1418 - Boo Boo'n to Hyperactivity - "Regarding the bottom post? Well, I just don't think you can't really reach for the scum assumption just for thinking that people are paraphrasing. I mean, it's bound to happen in early game."
- #1421 - Ultrajay unvotes - "You want NeverTim gone? I noted that pair in my Pending results. Judging from how Never Forever acts since that post it could be a viable target."
- #1422 - Boo Boo'n to Flux - "that does explain the vote on me." "why Tim"
- #1425 - UltraJay - " I've had my eye on both CzarTim and Kingkitty since they always tried to defend themselves IMMEDIATELY and threw votes on us afterwards."
- #1426 - Flux to UltraJay - "Of course I want them gone; I'm voting for them, aren't I? My vote is very likely not going to move at this point, too. My targeted teams are still: [#1310]" "And somehow, now I'd rather see CzarTim's team flip than yours."
- #1427 - NeverForever - " we voted that way because we felt Hyper's responses were genuine, so we moved to the person who we thought was scummiest" "that's it"
- #1428 - Hyperactivity - "probably prefer getting NeverTim lynched, but as it stands I'm fighting for survival"
- #1429 - batsnacks to Hyperactivity - "Way to freak out...jeez" "Anyway I thought it was okay logic."
- #1431 - Flux - "If you're fighting for survival, get your team voting on NeverTim."
- #1433 - Launch votes for CzarTim - " I'm not convinced by my reasoning behind you. I'll give you a leg up. Get your partner voting, too"
- #1434 - Boo Boo'n to bats - "I mean you could apply the same shit to Tim and Forever, who...did the same thing: following the group when the pressure went down on them and focused on the team with the hottest takes (me and Jay)."
- #1435 - Karkador - "Just vote for Tim, guys"
- #1436 - Launch - "The truth is I have no idea what I'm doing."
- #1439 - Boo Boo'n to Launch - "...Yeah you're fucking scum man "
- #1440 - UltraJay votes CzarTim while responding to Flux - "I-I'm not doing this because you said so or anything, stu-stupid! They were totes on my list behind Hyper! We'll see who's who on day two!"
- #1441 - Batsnacks to Boo Boo'n - "Are you sure you have the right person cause this doesn't sound like why I voted you, I don't understand any of this. :/ "
- #1442 - Launch - "Take it easy. I change opinions from minute to minute. This is how I've always played."
- #1443 - cabot - " It feels like the last 5 minutes of the day, but we've got another hour."
- #1444 - Boo Boo'n to bats - "To which two people agreed to for some reason despite the logic behind said post being really hole-y and flimsy. Just weird to see so many people pile on it, then retract later on."
- #1445 - Coppa - "Also in regards to the Tim proceedings, I'm not opposed to it (they're definitely on my watch list for tomorrow if we don't lynch them today). One thing that stuck out to me about him was someone commenting on how scum Tim typically takes a hands off approach in the game and watches the pieces fall. "
- #1447 - Boo Boo'n votes for CzarTim
- #1448 - Batsnacks to Boo Boo'n - "I still think the logic was okay... What I didn't understand is what Tim and hyper's handwritten notes have in common. "
- #1449 - TL21xx votes for CzarTim - "On mobile, can't type too much of an explanation at the moment, but I think that Flux has a good point. That, and Jay self voting leave me to believe this is the right course of action" "I know Tim always gives a false positive, but sometimes you just gotta go with your gut."
- #1452 - Never Forever - " look here guys, we have a pile on" "can someone please explain why they're voting for us?"
- #1454 - Boo Boo'n to NeverForever - "Well Tim's vote on me, contradicting his feelings on Hyperkitty being scum doesn't match up especially in the case that we WERE in a straight 7 for 7 tie. "
- #1455 - Launch to NeverForever - "Because you guys have done barely enough to have a presence in the game."
- #1456 - Flux to NeverForever, meta commentrary - "I'll have you know that your partner, Kingkitty, Hyperactivity, Timeaisis, batsnacks, cabot, *Splinter and Boo Boo 'n are intimately familiar with Werewolf 2. Besides, WW1 and WW2 are the only main Mafia games I've participated in. Am I not supposed to cite previous experiences as a way to relate them to ongoing events?"
- #1457 - Boo Boo'n - "A question to our trackers: Who do you even plan on keeping an eye on during the night phase anyway? Do you have suspicions? Look into our Cops?"
- #1459 - Launch to Boo Boo'n - "You changed avatars in the hopes that we won't recognize you, hmm?" " They shouldn't tell us"
- #1460 - Current vote talley by Burtbeing - NeverForever and Czartim have 7 votes - Karu, Flux, Blarg, Launch, UltraJay, Boo Boo'n, TL21xx
- #1462 - Kyanrute to Boo Boo'n - "How much does the scum team wanna know this so they can react accordingly?"
- #1463 - Cabot - " Launch, did Gorlak say he wasn't gonna be here today at all?"
- #1467 - UltraJay - "Whoa whoa lover. Don't let scum know where to look. Let Blawl track whoever the duck they want and let's not tell Mafia everything we're going to do tonight as town, k?"
- #1470 - Blarg to Neverforever - Splinter said smart players do it" "ergo"
- #1471 - Boo Boo'n to Launch, Kyan,and UltraJay - "Right, they shouldn't. Sorry, the final hour kind of got me on edge."
- #1472 - UltraJay to NeverForever - "You guys started a pile-on on us. Don't like it so much now that you've got the ass and balls in YOUR face?"
- #1476 - Splinter votes for CzarTim - " UltraJay is the smart vote. Slightly suspicious and already claimed ordinary (or at least "not important"). It's so boring though, the inevitable ordinary town lynch :/" " I've been unsure on NeverTim. I expected a lot more from them in D2 (they've both brought up the "it's D1" excuse) and I kind of gave them a pass... Looking back, they've done nothing to deserve it." " Literally the only thing giving me pause here is the speed with which they've picked up votes. I assume they are in the lead by now? "
- #1477 - Gorlak appears and unvotes - "The one team I feel as scum are still Splintbot." "Ultra's self-vote and ordinary soft-claim could be tactics" " Meanwhile El Topo gets away with STILL talking about lynching Flux instead of simply putting his vote down and starting to give his opinion on other teams. "
- #1478 - NeverForever responds to a lot of people - Following quote is to Boo Boo'n: " Me and Tim were going back and forth between your pairs for a while, and full of doubts about basically everything, major D1 jitters, but we felt that Hyper's responses to being questioned were genuine so we moved to the players who we felt were scummiest. That's it."
- #1479 - Cabot to Gorlak - "Absolutely shameless, show me where we pushed it. I said I was voting for ultraboo and gave my reasons. I don't remember pushing anyone else to do the same. "
- #1480 - NeverForever soft claims power role
- #1481 - Ty4on to NeverForever and CzarTim regarding their opinions - "Were these disagreements brought up in your chat?"
- #1482 - Gorlak - "I was going to bring that up tomorrow, but Flux started a bandwaggon on CzarNever with his reasoning. I'll do my best in the time that is left. "
- #1485 - NeverForever to Ty4on - "no, last night was the first time me and Tim were properly able to chat"
- #1486 - Blargonaut to Splinter over #1476 - "Now Is The Time That I Am So Conflicted"
- #1487 - Karkador to NeverfForever - "Girl power is not a power role"
- #1488 - Launch to NeverForever - "Go on.."
- #1489 - MagnumBoy20xx to NeverForever - "Just caught up and was just about to vote for you two, until you said this"
- #1490 - Never Forever - " Our role name is One True Pairing."
- #1491 - Splinter - "Y'know, we could always lynch Giant Topo? It seems they've gotten a free pass since the replacement?"
- #1492 - Flux - " Oh boy... Time, where the heck are you? Place a vote on Never Forever, please. You can lay low, but at least vote near the deadlines."
- #1492 - Boo Boo'n to NeverForever and Czartim - " Like wtf? you couldn't get any reads from the dude you've been talking to for the past couple of posts? Why go for me, because I fucked up? "
- #1493 - NeverForever - " Tim's told me not to spill the details, because it's useless if scum know about it beyond the fact that we have it" "but Tim's not here, so I'm in a bit of a quandary "
- #1495 - Launch to NeverForever - "GO ON... "
- #1496 - Boo Boo'n to NeverForever's soft claim post (#1480) - "come on b"
- #1497 - MagnumBoy20xx votes NeverForever due to wanting more details
- #1499 - Ty4on - "Role claims are boring." "I'm more interested in this. If you were to boil down to the essence of you chat's suspicions, what would they be? "
- #1500 - Never Forever - "We think Kark is a numbskull, but he's Town" "top scum are BooJay and GorlakMcQ"
- #1501 - UltraJay to NeverForever - "Topo sounds good. I'd be okay getting rid of that whinger. Suck it up!"
- #1502 - Splinter - "Oh hang on, of course that's a fake claim"
- #1503 - Launch unvotes - " I'm not sure what the vote count is, but I don't want a turbo."
- #1504 - Splinter - "And let's not yet point out why it's so clearly fake" "#rekt"
- #1505 - UltraJay to Neverforever in #1500 - "Okay. Don't tell us. We'll just see it in the flip. Also your reads are big stinky doody. "
- #1507 - NeverForever hard claims power role - " We have One Shot Target Immunity."
- #1508 - Ty4on to NeverForever - "The one thing that bothers me about Gorlak is that he has stood out so much on almost every occasion. Even now he is bringing up that we should look at Cabinter."
- #1510 - Flux to NF's hard claim - "That's a pretty cool power. It'd be a real shame if you were lynched without being able to make use of it, huh."
- #1511 - Launch laughing gif at NF's hard claim
- #1512 - Current vote count by Burbeting - Neverforever and CzarTim have 9 - Karu, Flux, Blarg, UltraJay, Boo Boo'n, TL21xx, Splinter, Magnumboy, cabot
- #1514 - Karkador - "Target immunity or kill immunity?"
- #1515 - Boo Boo'n - " I have to get to work now, but i'll be back ten minutes before time's up to see where the results lead."
- #1516 - Splinter - " Now the only downside is we won't get a crazy day end :<"
- #1517 - UltraJay - "That's not exactly going to help us now. Unless it comes down to the wire and scum needs to kill you twice to win. They'd more than likely just kill others instead."
- #1519 - Kaynrute - "Target immunity as in you block once any action taken on you? Or just night kill?"
- #1520 - NeverForever - "Target [immunity]"
- #1521 - Splinter - "Also Gorlak I don't remember which vote you are referring to. Don't you know it's rude to not quote the relevant post? Gosh"
- #1522 - UltraJay - " Oh wait, like a doctor? Just say one-shot doc, sheesh. This is either a fake claim we should lynch or we should move on to El PooPoo. "
- #1523 - NeverForever to UltraJay - "no, we block one action taken on us" "it's passive, we don't choose to use it "
- #1524 - Boo Boo'n - "That's dumb! I don't believe you."
- #1525 - Splinter to UltraJay - "Sounds more like a self-protection thing Is this a partial neutral claim? "
- #1526 - Karkador - " Target immunity suggests scum to me, more so than kill immunity"
- #1527 - Batsnacks - " I don't believe that's a real role."
- #1528 - Splinter to Karkador - "This too"
- #1529 - NeverForever - " turbo please this is taking time away from watching Taylor Swift music videos"
- #1530 - Hyperactivity votes CzarTim, but misspells it. - " The fuck is "target immunity""
- #1531 - UltraJay - "Meaning if you survive no one is going to try to track you or investigate you... or anything for fear of wasting an action. If mafia think we aren't going to lynch or if they can't lead a lynch on you (which they probably can really easily right now) their last plan of action would be to waste an action on you and THEN kill you (maybe even in the same night?). "
- #1532 - El Topop votes NeverForever - "I mean, I have yet to see anything vaguely resembling a reasonable explanation why we shouldn't lynch Flux today, but it seems I am alone with my opinion. Oh well, either they get killed in the night or the stupid dance begins anew." " I wanted to vote for UltraJay, but that power/role claim by NF just seems messy. Neutral player going for an excuse?"
- #1533 - Coppa to Karkador - "I'm with this argument. I don't see how target immunity would help town, especially since I assume priority would take place. I.E. if a doctor tried to protect you AND scum tried to kill you, you would die that night since your immunity gets used on Doctor. "
- #1534 - NeverForever - "I mean, if I was making it up wouldn't I make up something a bit better? haha "
- #1535 - Hyperactivity - "NF, if more than one action is done on you guys in one night, how would it interact with your ability"
- #1536 - Launch votes for NeverForever - "Ok, I'm down with that"
- #1537 - cabot - "you'd think, but apparently not."
- #1538 - FluxWaveZ to El Topo - "Contradictory. If the Never Forever and CzarTim team actually proves to be scum, anyone still on my case on D2 is an immediate scum tell. "
- #1539 - Karkador - "The only way is if its 1shot target immunity tied to another ability."
- #1540 - Never Forever explains his power role more - "we block all of the night actions used on us on the first night a night action is used on us if that makes sense? "
- #1541 - Hyperactivity goofs an unvote - " Getting bad vibes about this one, but what's to suggest you guys aren't scum with this ability"
- #1542 - Gorlak analizes votes on Boo Boo'n - "So Flux didn't even mention the original votes on Boo and started a full power train in another direction. "
- #1543 - Batsnacks to NeverForever - "Honestly even if that was my real role I would have made up something better. lol "
- #1544 - Boo Boo'n to Neverforever's Taylor Swift comment - "Turbo on principle TBH TBH"
- #1545 - MagnumBoy20xx to Never Forever - "Ok then. This way to the head crusher!"
- #1546 - Ty4on to Flux - "NeverTim flipping scum shouldn't and wouldn't make me town read you."
- #1547 - Blargonaut unvotes.
- #1548 - UltraJay to NeverForever - "If you were going to lie you should have said "one night" instead of "one action" but you said it. Literally "block one action". "
- #1549 - El Topop to Flux - "What do NF/CT have to do with you?"
- #1550 - Kyanrute - "If you have this role, wouldn't the play had been to claim it so that nobody would've used an action on you and thus forcing the scum to shoot you twice?"
- #1551 - Cabot to Gorlak - "I don't know what this proves. It's a shame NF had to claim and ruin it all. "
- #1552 - Splinter to Flux - "Err What? "
- #1553 - UltraJay to El Topo regarding NeverForever and CzarTim - "Because he'd NEVER EVER bus a teammate right? That's super towny behavior."
- #1554 - NeverForever to Flux - "this guy[.] amirite guys "
- #1555 - Flux to Gorlak - "I don't actually know what you're talking about. Why would I have mentioned the original votes on Boo?" - Flux to Ty4on and El Topo - "Because without me voting for CzarTim and asking Launch to do the same, this situation wouldn't be happening at all? Right, I'm scum who wants to put one of my partners in the spotlight and kill them off. That makes sense. "
- #1557 - Boo Boo'n to Flux - "lmao what"
- #1558 - Gorlak to cabot - "You started the pile on Boo Boo'n to defend HyperKitty"
- #1559 - Flux to Splinter - "Really? This would be the Coppa/Flame or Hyper/Kingkitty show if I hadn't talked about wanting to lynch NeverTim's team! Are you guys actually arguing I had nothing to do with it? "
- #1560 and #1561 - cabot to gorlak - "Cool. Slowest burn pile up ever. " - cabot no quote - " Your argument misses out the reaction of hyperkitty to the vote pile on him, but yeah totally you're right. Nice ninja edit, bear give him into trouble now. "
- #1562 - Ty4on to Gorlak - "Zaaaaaank you! My reads are all shit, but certainty is what bothers me mostly so far. There's barely any of the town doubt I expect to see." - Ty4on to Flux - "You're a cop who revealed six minutes into D1. That makes sense. I'll need to check the interactions between you and NeverTim first, but I don't think the possibility should be off the table. "
- #1563 - Splinter - "He's showing Cabot and I defending Hyperkitty, more than I even realised we were, in fact. I'll worry about that if/when Hyper flips scum. Also you're gonna be suuper disappointed when NeverTim flips neutral "
- #1565 - Gorlak - "You obviously lead a succesful bandwagon against CzarNever based on the reason they started a bandwagon on Boo Boo'n, while Splintbot actually roused suspicion about him and eased everyone into voting him. Anyway that's what we can talk about tomorrow. "
- #1566 - Timeasis appears and votes with his partner on NeverForever
- #1568 - Flux to Ty4on - "This is ridiculous. Almost wish I hadn't said anything, 'cause we'd still be focusing on one of those two town teams and that'd be way funnier. If you contend that scum would ACTUALLY pull off a gambit to kill one of their own, you are absurd. Anyone arguing for that is absurd."
- #1568 again - Flux to Splinter, more meta commentary - "Neutral's fine; I would have rather we had killed CrimsonFist at the start in Heist instead of wasting several days lynching Town. Neutrals aren't one of us. "
- #1569 - Splinter - " It's a shame Blawl claimed early. They've been the scummiest by a country mile and we pretty much have to ignore it for now. "
- #1571 - Current vote count by Burbeting - NeverForever and CzarTim lead with 11 votes - Karu, Cabot, El Tpop, Launch, Flux, UltraJay, Boo Boo'n, TL21xx, Splinter, Magnumboy20xx, Timeasis
- #1572 - Cabot on the vote count - "A staggering two votes on hyperkitty when I voted UltraBooBoo. What a save. "
- #1573 - Retroid votes Boo Boo'n - " Neither pair screams scum to me, but of the two I feel more inclined to vote UltraBoo."
- #1574 - NeverForever - "it's fine, we're flipping Town haha" "don't be discouraged"
- #1577 - Kyanrute to Splinter - "Wouldn't OTP seem like good name for a neutral role? Above love and loveless, there is the One True Pairing, higher than the rest, the best of the best. And since they are better than us regular lovers, they get a power to prove it: they are so True, that they are immune for everything for one night. "
- #1578 - Splinter to Ty4on - "The power claimed sounds like something a neutral would have, like NK immunity. There's also a complete lack of defending from other pairs and a fast pile on that likely includes scum. I'm guessing neutral, though scum would be nice "
- #1579 - Gorlak to NeverForever - "Who do you think is scum?"
- #1581 - Karkador to Splinter - "neutral is scum to me"
- #1582 - Splinter to cabot - "4 votes honey, check the unvote times"
- #1584 - cabot - " oops better lynch me I'm scum. Can't read vote counters. "
- #1586 - Gorlak to cabot in #1584, votes for cabot - "You do your best to make fun of me, because you know I'm right."
- #1588 - cabot to Gorlak - "good luck."
- #1590 - Kyanrute votes NeverForever - "Expecting Blarg's head-canon (should the claim be true)."
- #1591 - Flux to his partner Timeaisis- "Glad you could make it in the final moments, btw. Also, scum, make sure to kill us tonight. I'm already dead. There won't be a doctor, I guarantee it. "
- #1592 - Ty4on votes cabot - " NEVER GIVE UP "
- #1594 - Blargonaut votes Boo Boo'n
- #1595 - Flux - " Holy shit, Ty4on and Sophia are Loveless."
- #1596 - Splinter votes cabot - " He has a point you know"
- #1597 - Launch votes cabot - " You scummy fuck"
- #1598 - The day ends.
- #1603 - Last Votecount
- #1608 - Burbeting shows us why he's a better bear than Teddie or Monokuma; NeverForever and CzarTim flip town with One True Partner as their pairing and one shot target immunity.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 19, 2016 8:06:27 GMT -8
Still editing the other post so I'm not finished, but here's my current observations:
Firstly up to #1415 we see a reoccuring pattern with Flux. He relies heavily on meta references in an attempt to lead the vote. The fact that he's referencing Woof1/2 so much makes me he's unconfident and scared, but wants to lead the conversation anyhow. I don't know to treat this as a town vibe or scum vibe.
Secondly, are you noticing the pattern that I am? Launch is parroting and bandwagoning the crap out of any/all opinions that come through the thread. That doesn't strike me as town behaviour at all, no matter how quickly Launch's opinion changes on something.
Lastly, Boo Boo'n is striking me the wrong way right now, can't place my finger on it.
Some more observations as of #1440 - I think UltraJay and Boo Boo'n might be scum based upon this alone. They're doing some of the same stuff Launch is, such as voting for bandwagons and a slightly... how to put... defensive nature? Batsnacks is rubbing me the wrong way too, but not scum vibes yet.
#1442 Launch felt the need to note his playing style, which seems defensive.
#1454 + #1455 + #1456 Launch's post still rubbing me the wrong way, although he's technically right. He notes the behaviour is unlike Tim. As for Flux, he resorts to more meta commentrary. Feelings on Boo Boo'n are weaking, but I can't shake the scum vibe.
And yet some more readings: Gorlak enters at #1477 with some interesting comments and brings up the bandwagon that Flux started at #1482, Cabot is still giving me town vibes as especially of #1479, Splinter voting for CzarTim despite saying UltraJay is the smart vote is... unusual.
One thing I really want to look at is the people who respond to NeverForever. The slow trickling of their power role information was their downfall (you always reveal clearly and with as much info as possible if you're gonna reveal), so I'm looking at the people who took advantage of that.
OH BOY. NeverForever and CzarTim were thinking the same logic (#1500)I was before I even hit that post. Seeing as they flipped town...
Notes in regards to their hard role claim: UltraJay, Launch, and Boo Boo'n jump straight on the You're Ful Of Shit train. Splinter and Karkador do not. Flux provides a really weird commentary (#1510) that's kind of sort of inbetween?
I'm up to the tally votes at #1571 now. Firstly, I think there are three pairs on the scum team. Merging partners you get 15 players, and 3 scum is a logical number. Right now I don't think there are any neutrals, but I wouldn't rule it out. I think the scum team right now is: Ultrajay and Boo Boo'n, Gorlak and Launch, and an unknown pair. I believe they've made full use of the roleclaims to sit back to a degree for much of the beginning in order to try and draw suspcision away from them. I believe that Splinter and Cabot have a power role. I'll have more later, I'll need to recharge after all this timeline note taking.
Sorry for the really long post, but writing these notes out was a way to organized my thoughts clearly too. ><;
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 19, 2016 9:05:36 GMT -8
So much stuff to analyze! I will be quite busy this weekend though. Especially Sunday.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 19, 2016 9:28:15 GMT -8
Also, to anyone reading this after the game is over: Ya'll are second class citizens living in a first class world. Nobody takes notes as good as a fucking robot.
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Post by Ty4on on Feb 19, 2016 9:41:34 GMT -8
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