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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 10:48:04 GMT -8
I actually bought myself another day. Wow. Couldn't have done it without Kalor outing Coppa though. I wonder what the dead thread is thinking right now. Detonate and switch-kill Pop with... Hyper? Hyper - Kalor - medium cabot - Pop - tracker GC - veteran Fireblend - ordinary Splinter - BP, neutral? Coppa - neutral Swamped - ordinary Scrafty - ordinary Sorian - RB roy - cop Matt - ordinary 7 town, 3 scum. 1 dies tonight, maybe more. 6-3, I die tomorrow barring another miracle, 6-2 the next night.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 11:17:57 GMT -8
I think swap pop and lp. Kill... I dunno. Maybe gc? And detonate. If were lucky, 4 could die. My bomb either kills pop or he blocks himself. Splinter either blocks himself or maybe dies. If lp gets targeted, it redirects to pop as a backup plan for killing him, while the reverse doesnt hurt lp due to immunity. Neutral killer goes after who knows. Thats the wild card. We could alternately use the switch to protect myself or gorlak.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 11:31:09 GMT -8
So n1 we kill roy and X kills matt and coppa copies X. N2 we kill sorian. Who did we swap sorian with, because coppa claims he targeted sorian as well, right? Splinter also claims to be attacked.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 11:35:14 GMT -8
Need to go through coppas post on a desktop. Too hard on phone. Also hard to be sure whats true.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 11:36:39 GMT -8
We swapped Sorian and Kalor. Coppa and the neutral targeted Sorian, redirected to Kalor, who was doc-protected?
If Splinter is BP I don't think detonation will kill him.
Coppa copied the neutral SK. It's not Splinter (he says they both targeted Splinter or Sorian last night). He says "they're playing well so far".
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 11:44:50 GMT -8
Gut feeling says hyper. Hes been strangely adamant about splinter.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 11:45:52 GMT -8
Hyper's last post is telling the SK that he should go for scum since we're ahead. Wonder if he'll go for me.
I either die tonight or get lynched tomorrow. Odds are unlikely that I'd be targeted. Maybe switch me with Gorlak or Palmer; which one of you is more scummy? I'd say Gorlak, but Palmer is pretty much top town right now (along with cabot) so SK may go for him.
If Pop tracks Gorlak, what does he see? Both targets?
I'm tempted to kill Hyper or cabot. Either could be the SK I think. Sucks that Coppa didn't give him up.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 11:48:02 GMT -8
Yeah splinter was rb'd both nights anyway.
Lp, you could parley your previous claim into a sk claim. I dont think anyone will buy it but might as well try. Its sort of in towns interest to keep a sk alive at the moment.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 12:07:19 GMT -8
Youre nk immune but might get targeted which is why i considered swapping you and a townie. Id like to get rid of kalor, cabot, pop, and hyper because of his insistence of gorlak.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 14:42:35 GMT -8
But most think I'm going to die tonight so there's a good chance they ignore me.
Maybe swap Hyper and Palmer, and kill cabot? There's a risk if the SK goes for Hyper though.
What would an SK do? They might not go for a town PR since they can deliver scum. They can also somewhat safely claim if outed tomorrow and ally themselves with town against us. Good idea on me claiming SK; it's an option if the SK doesn't die tonight. I'll have a pre-typed post ready when the night ends (I'll kill who town wants and then kill GC or get lynched when scum are gone).
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 21:23:35 GMT -8
Actually upon further thought an SK must know my claim is bull and try to kill me tonight. I am pretty much guaranteed scum and it'll buy him favours with the Town when or if outed.
Who to swap though. Kalor hyper or Cabot.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 23:34:04 GMT -8
Guys, what are you talking about? The neutral SK was lynched today. He killed Matt and probably tried Splinter N2. There is no sign of another killing force?
We have to detonate, maybe Pop dies. If switched will he take the doll with him? This is extremly important! I don't want to die because of this! Ourobolus: Is the doll bound to the person or their position? It's not clarified yet.
Kill Cabot or Hyper, one of them is doc. If Pop survives and I'm tracked... Switch him with me? So I could claim switcher and having protected him since Night 1. Or switch him with Cabot again and kill Hyper?
Do you believe there is a Vig? Only in this case L_P is going to be attacked this night!
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 23:43:18 GMT -8
I'm 90% convinced Coppa was Ocelot all the time. It'd be a huge coincidence, if the second killer went for Roy N1 as well and Coppa for Kalor N2 as well. Ockhams razor and all, two dead N1, two claimed attacks N2. We and Coppa. No one else. He fucked with all of us hard. Copycat is imba, how to balance out another random scum/town member. That didn't happen.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 0:02:56 GMT -8
No, imagine a second cop in the game. We'd be screwed hard. Coppa was bullshitting us. His try to confuse us with "Ouro told me" was his last final joke No more SK in the game. Trust me.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 0:30:59 GMT -8
My suggestion:
Kill Hyper Switch Cabot and Pop Detonate
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 30, 2015 3:02:33 GMT -8
The doll stays with the player.
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Post by palmer on Oct 30, 2015 4:09:54 GMT -8
Still claim to be ocelot. You never know what bullshit town will buy. You are most likely doomed regardless.
Ill message ouro my detonate command.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 5:38:23 GMT -8
I have sent in the Pop, Cabot switch.
Do you think it's worth it to keep Hyper around? He spoke out against me clearly and we'll have to see if they trust Splinter over me (if he survives tonight). Hm. Who do you suspect to be the doctor?
Can you think of a more useful switch shenanigan? The current plan: Pop doesn't dispose, Doc protects the wrong one, Bomb goes off, Pop dead
Possible talking points tomorrow: GC being neutral (his ocelot and russian stuff + claim without any evidence) Splinter being neutral/scum Me being scum L_P Turbo.
I'm doomed no matter what. Too many people turned their heads in my direction, only if Splinter lives I'll maybe survive one more day after L_P is gone.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 5:41:28 GMT -8
If I claim Ocelot, why would they let me live? If anything I'll go for switcher.
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Post by palmer on Oct 30, 2015 6:06:35 GMT -8
Lp should claim ocelot. He might get lucky. Very unlikely but nothing else to do really. I still think you should come out as switcher at some point. We may not actually have a doctor, so you could claim to be whats protecting pop. N1 pop/roy, n2 pop/someone that didnt die, n3 depends on deaths but maybe pop/hyper or pop/splinter.
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Post by palmer on Oct 30, 2015 6:38:53 GMT -8
Remember your n2 switch target has to be someone who i would have given a doll too, but you redirected it to pop. Gc and splinter dont work.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 30, 2015 6:52:05 GMT -8
You think GC is lying? Might be our only chance to kill him if he's vet.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 7:57:39 GMT -8
Argh, Palmer you mentioned the possibility of a switcher like 5 times, if I flip, they just have to look through a couple of posts and connect the dots.
Role distribution: SolidSnake, Switcher, Arsonist - 3 Serial Killer - 1 Cop, Roleblock, Tracker, Medium (those I believe), Nk Immune, Vet - 6 and 6 boxes?
Maybe Splinter is the doc. Unnessecary gambit, ending in Sorian blocking him 2 Nights. His talk about "I was attacked" could reinforce our doubt and that's why we end up not killing him! Let's wait for the day phase. Actually his claim was good, because he would've been immune due to his own protection! Damn it. Right now I think I've figured it all out. And when the day starts I'm dead and town is winning! We'll see, but right now I have my share of fun again :)
I would have ignored GC simply because he was not active and didn't help at all. Don't know what will happen with Ty4on now... And I don't want to risk it.
Pop - Tracker Kalor - Medium Splinter - Doc
GC/Ty4on - Vet? He did try to get people off his chest. Why? Don't believe anyone. He lied about something, the whole claim? His power? Everybody fell for it so easily. Something in there is bothering me. For now I would ignore it and act the next night accordingly. Lol, he could also be the doc. The fact nobody got protected until now points to Splinter or no doc. I'm going with Splinter.
Leaving: Hyper, Cabot and Fireblend as boxes.
--- I maybe wrong on more than one occasion, but my I'm fairly confident this is close to the truth! You've seen it here first!
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 8:09:15 GMT -8
You have to love #floppanuva! Puts this much effort into his claim! Look at his profile! You're the best Coppa!
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 30, 2015 8:37:46 GMT -8
We have four claim options:
1. Liquid Snake, the miller. Not really a PR. Flavour-wise, makes sense. 2. Fatman, the bomb-maker. Hmm... we have no claimed doctor so the dolls will block one night kill? Disposing will role-block, so it's a pseudo-jailer? I was going to say dolls are decoys, but Coppa already cornered that market. (EDIT: this is moot if the dolls go off.) 3. Switcher. A town PR that isn't actually town is possible. It backfired on roy in NX (claimed tracker when town had no more PR's, was lynched that day). But roy had pretty bad night results (he tracked claimed ordinaries), so make sure they're pro-town actions. 4. Ordinary box.
I have an SK claim so I'll use that.
One thing I thought about is how no one's posted a list of names and roles.
Hyper - soft-claim ordinary Kalor - medium cabot - ? Fireblend - ordinary GC/Ty4on - vet Splinter - BP Pop - tracker Gorlak - ? Palmer - ? L_P - one-shot vig
Dead: Scrafty, Swamped, Matt (ordinary), Sorian (roleblock), Coppa (SK), roy (cop)
2 out of 3 unclaimed are scum. If town wises up to that fact we could be in trouble. I think claiming ordinary/whatever on Day 4 is wise, with scum doing pretty well so far. Town will narrow in on the suspiciously unclaimed when the number of survivors starts shrinking.
Bus me if necessary, but throw more suspicion on Splinter, cabot, and Hyper. Maybe GC/Ty4on.
Maybe I'll just kill Kalor so we don't have to see what Sorian thinks.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 30, 2015 8:40:14 GMT -8
Let me know what you think. I'll submit a kill around noon PST (2 hours before deadline). Sorry Ouro for cutting it close.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 30, 2015 8:40:42 GMT -8
Nah, that's ok.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 30, 2015 10:08:12 GMT -8
Taking out the medium is a good option. I dislike Hyper staying alive for obvious reasons, but it may be for the better. You have the final word on it.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 30, 2015 11:14:12 GMT -8
Submitted a kill for Hyper. Kalor could be protected and I didn't want to risk it.
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Post by palmer on Oct 30, 2015 13:03:37 GMT -8
Sorry been busy. Catching up in here now.
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