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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 28, 2015 12:14:00 GMT -8
roy investigating Coppa makes sense. We killed roy, after all. Doesn't explain Matt's death though. If Coppa is SK then he did it.
Why didn't Coppa kill last night? Role-blocked by Sorian?
With all this madness my claim looks rather tame.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 12:18:25 GMT -8
I think ouro took town of salem roles. Dont mention that at all though. Veteran, a medium, and an arsonist. I think kalor is telling the truth, just at a time that is deeply hurting town. Lol.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 13:22:25 GMT -8
If coppa is telling the truth, he could be on our team right now. I have no idea what happens if he flips. Nor what he might say about whoever he copied. This is fucking dangerous. I wish we had just done lp now.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 13:30:50 GMT -8
Ouro, if there was a copycat who took on their targets allegiance, and they targeted and became scum, would they then have access to the scums night chat?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 28, 2015 13:50:53 GMT -8
Coppa is scummy as heck. Copying Matt Attack night 1, what a joke. If I was a copycat I'd want a PR to play with, not some obscure and conveniently dead player. Maybe I should post this in the thread.
I think if he became scum he'd be an outsider. No access to chat, no idea who we are, but wins with us.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 13:57:08 GMT -8
Well he would know the one scum he copied. Go ahead and post but remember anything you say will be seen as you maybe saving your own ass
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 28, 2015 15:46:30 GMT -8
I'm probably going quiet the rest of the day. Anything I say will be looked back on.
Kalor's vote on Gorlak seems to be a way to not seem bandwagon-like with a random vote. Could be worth ignoring for now.
Kill Coppa instead?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 28, 2015 15:46:51 GMT -8
L_P this is an outstanding claim :) AMAZING! You are close to survive a another night! Good job!
I think Kalor is telling the truth, but this would make a bold and gigantic fake claim :D
People are onto me, was only a matter of time. Especially with the reads of all the dead people, which I think is pretty op. If he got only info from Roy okay, but instantly get info of everyone who is dead ~ meh, this is unfair (I'm a bit pissed because they point to me of course...) all assuming it's true.
--- I'm willing to use the Liquid Snake, Miller claim if I'm the target for today, which is very possible.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 28, 2015 15:50:35 GMT -8
Also Hyper keeps saying Splinter or Gorlak is scum, which pisses me off as well. Of course I'm scum, but him repeating it like 500 times, will get the message into everyones head -.- If I speak against it, it only makes me more suspicious.
You're doing a good job Hyper, close to having it all figured out! But I still want to live and win, damn it.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 28, 2015 16:02:28 GMT -8
Also Hyper keeps saying Splinter or Gorlak is scum, which pisses me off as well. Of course I'm scum, but him repeating it like 500 times, will get the message into everyones head -.- If I speak against it, it only makes me more suspicious. You're doing a good job Hyper, close to having it all figured out! But I still want to live and win, damn it. For a second I thought this was the game thread and I was really confused.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 19:35:43 GMT -8
My thought so far is to say something about doc continuing to protect pop so he can continue tracking people, then blow bombs to kill him while we have him switched with someone. Maybe gorlak in case of vig? Then lp kills someone who is confirmed town like cabot or kalor. I think kalor cause thats a dangerous ability.
This all assumes lp survives. Gorlak, it might be worth you sneaking in a hammer against coppa if needed. It will take them at least two days to lynch you two.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 3:59:38 GMT -8
I really miss the preview option in here! So I'll post this in the game thread in a second. --- Scenario-time: We are already 5 down with 11 players left. All of those scenarios assume the night kills will hit town. If scum dies at night, it looks much better! If there are 4 scum members (which some see as unlikely): a) With a mislynch and a another 2 night kills, the game is likely to be over? - 4 town:4 scum b) mislynch and 1 nk - 5:4 c) lynch scum + 2 nk - 5:3 d) lynch scum + 1 nk - 6:3 3 scum members: e) mislynch + 2 nk - 5:3 f) mislynch + 1 nk - 6:3 g) lynch scum + 2 nk - 5:2 h) lynch scum + 1 nk - 6:2 Lylo today is only given in case of a) Lylo/Mylo tomorrow however is reached in case of b), c) and e) Ugh.. --- Why did you go for Matt, Coppa? I addressed it earlier, but I thought there was a decent chance Matt was some sort of PR and he was only playing super quietly due to protecting his PR. I had him on my town list day 1. I was hoping he was something like a doctor, and that my copying him would guarantee us 2 doctors at nights, which would be awesome. I also was looking to get some unclaimed person's role, so they could back me up if needed when I eventually claimed my disguise ability. It didn't quite work out, since matt died and was ordinary, but that was my logic. Thanks, I know you already adressed that, but I wanted to see if you stand by your story. It's a pretty big coincidence you targeted one of the two dead persons Night 1. I highly doubt two people would target the same one that Night, especially with so many silent people around Day 1. There were many other targets around, so probability speaks against you. Also how did you manage to get another cardboard box Night 2 with so many PR out in the open? Being a second tracker wouldn't help winning the game? Not trying Sorian or Splinter? Hm, maybe it's more useful if you don't answer this one. Concerning this "I want it clarified if Coppa can determine alignments" he said he only gets the night action. But as scum must have a kill order, it's pretty easy to deduce, I guess. On another note - Coppa denies knowing about the dolls, so it's more likely they are scum aligned. L_P's claim is odd. The End dying during the game would fit perfectly flavor-wise, but it sounds like a bullshit mechanic for a mafia game. Not targeting Splinter is weird, but so is Coppa targeting Matt. I don't know, this is too much for me to decide. The Sorian-Cowlicker fiasco is still in my head and I never wanted to let a neutral survive myself (I only watched the game), but if L_P is scum, they would have one more night with him.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 4:14:44 GMT -8
Im wondering if it might be worth claiming switcher tomorrow, with tou having protected pop each night.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 4:19:46 GMT -8
Do you think Coppa kills his targets? Matt is dead and he targeted him. Maybe he went after Splinter Night 2? Or is it more likely GC is the Vigilante? Nobody cares about him anymore and maybe he got lucky with his claim? Maybe Coppa is on our side already?
(this is really to much for me, I'm overthinking everything and knowing they will come after me tomorrow, is hampering me)
Anyway Coppa says he targeted vanilla town N2 and doesn't want to out him. Fireblend and Hyper claimed ordinary. Aside from Palmer and me, there is only Cabot without a claim. And he is probably the doc? It's more likely Coppa targeted a non-ordinary, maybe he got me or Palmer, but why withhold that now? The kill action is a huge signal.
Gnah... too many possibilities
coppa could also fake claim this whole shit and be in fact a Serial Killer, who killed Matt and tried Splinter N2. Copycat seems to be kind of too unbalanced. Joining one side or the other? WTF? Gaining all kinds of powers? I doubt Ourob would put this kind of role in here, and we know how he always says "they believe every bullshit claim".
--- Also I got some personal stuff going on, which is why I'm in a bad mood. Don't take my words from yesterday too hard. If they find me suspicious, I wasn't careful enough or I am simply not good at this game. No need to complain about the game balance. Sorry.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 29, 2015 4:20:06 GMT -8
There is a preview tab when you post, Gorlak. Just swap between it and the BBCode tab to refresh it.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 4:22:38 GMT -8
For the switch claim, I'd need a fitting flavor. I'll look into it.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 4:39:00 GMT -8
Well see how the night goes, but it would best to have the claim ready cause the sooner you post it, the more believable it is. If lp survives, it shouldnt be needed at all though. Just post it in here so you can copy paste later.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 6:19:25 GMT -8
If you want to fuck with them one last time, you could hint at being a lynch bomb. Might make undiscovered power roles react oddly.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 6:37:01 GMT -8
May go full Blarg near the deadline. The End has a micro bomb that goes off when he dies right?
Everything I said about Coppa is true. He could be a dangerous neutral attaching himself to town.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 7:24:05 GMT -8
Oh im pretty sure hes a neutral killer, but i can't deny the logic in killing you today. Its all so weird.
Try not to use the fatman claim if you guys can avoid it, as it matches my bombs best.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 7:43:42 GMT -8
And dont do anything until we know for certain youre done. We may still be able to sneak a lynch vs coppa.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 8:28:47 GMT -8
Maybe one of you should've made that post I wrote about Coppa to give it some more credibility. If I die today, I wonder if Coppa should be killed. He could kill one of you. But if he lives, town will spend a day voting him out. Hyper - ordinary Kalor - medium cabot - Pop - tracker GC - veteran Fireblend - ordinary Splinter - BP Coppa - neutral SK Swamped - ordinary Scrafty - ordinary Sorian - RB roy - cop Matt - ordinary 5 ordinary (3 confirmed), 6 if cabot is ordinary... maybe there is no doc. A medium to balance the higher body count from the vet, SK, mafia, and doll kills. Veteran and BP to counter night kills. Actually either cabot or Hyper should be a doc, since mafia is pretty strong with BP and cop-immune, switcher, and dolls. I think a doc would prevent doll detonations too.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 8:43:31 GMT -8
It definitely does stop the bomb explosion. I kinda think no doc is possible as well, but dont say that cause i want pop to think hes safe still.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 29, 2015 9:14:08 GMT -8
I'm spending the rest of the day going after Coppa. I think there's little risk in voting for him since we're both legitimate candidates. Neutrals are dangerous to everyone. Still not banking on surviving though. Fireblend knows I'm scum, since that's how he died in NX (was scum, caught by watcher, lynched the next day).
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 9:44:18 GMT -8
Well see. Have me, you, kalor, and pop right now. If gorlak and one other votes, were good. Ideally gorlak can avoid more suspicion though.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 29, 2015 9:50:20 GMT -8
FucK, I missed it. I'm on phone and can't be around every minute :(
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 10:09:06 GMT -8
Hold off voting gorlak. Hes currently imploding without us.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 10:09:56 GMT -8
And no worries dude. Its better if you dont even need to hammer.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 10:21:19 GMT -8
So is splinter a copycat too? If so, that is goddamn hilarious since hes been role blocked 2 nights straight and will either roleblock himself tonight again, or die to my bomb.
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Post by palmer on Oct 29, 2015 10:38:09 GMT -8
Holy shit.
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