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Post by squidyj on Jan 17, 2016 14:04:22 GMT -8
It's interesting that they wouldn't target roy with the kill though. Maybe they can't?
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:04:44 GMT -8
Ty should be the other Watcher, going by who was given gifts yesterday. Can you confirm that nobody besides Kawl visited Ultron yesterday?
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Post by Bombay on Jan 17, 2016 14:04:45 GMT -8
roy what did ridli flip in the afterlife? i'm assuming you guys killed him yesterday
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:05:05 GMT -8
Remember Scrafty's meditation role she said she had? ok. so magnumboys granted that power then, not zatoth. are you comfortable saying what that did? Yeah, it tells you what power role you'll get when you move to the great beyond... Assuming you have one of course.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 17, 2016 14:05:27 GMT -8
....well I guess we can't know for certain, if Kawl had used his switcher power would it be revealed when he died? I dunno.
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Post by cornb on Jan 17, 2016 14:06:06 GMT -8
Why Kawl though? True he got 2 powers, but Ty got 3. I'd be killing him before Kawl. Unless they knew which powers Kawl got and feared those more. Can anyone make that case?
And why not kill Roy? Like... he's our one contact to the dead world. Why did they not kill him? Because someone might think he is scum if he survives? Because Roy is like... the #1 target and may have been protected? Did we blab about a protective role yesterday?
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Post by Mazre on Jan 17, 2016 14:07:16 GMT -8
Roy, did trigger become a spirit or can we assume since he's not a resident of the island that he didn't?
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:07:29 GMT -8
Why Kawl though? True he got 2 powers, but Ty got 3. I'd be killing him before Kawl. Unless they knew which powers Kawl got and feared those more. Can anyone make that case?And why not kill Roy? Like... he's our one contact to the dead world. Why did they not kill him? Because someone might think he is scum if he survives? Because Roy is like... the #1 target and may have been protected? Did we blab about a protective role yesterday? Nope, Ty and Kawl got the same powers, plus one extra for Ty.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 17, 2016 14:07:47 GMT -8
Actually I suppose that's technical enough a point that It's worth asking splinter for clarification. If a player uses a gift from the afterlife and dies in the same night, will that gift be revealed on their 'flip'?
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:09:17 GMT -8
Actually, I guess he could have gotten something that wasn't declared, like how apparently Ultron had protect.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:09:34 GMT -8
Why Kawl though? True he got 2 powers, but Ty got 3. I'd be killing him before Kawl. Unless they knew which powers Kawl got and feared those more. Can anyone make that case? And why not kill Roy? Like... he's our one contact to the dead world. Why did they not kill him? Because someone might think he is scum if he survives? Because Roy is like... the #1 target and may have been protected? Did we blab about a protective role yesterday? That's why my first thought was vig, especially his vote was pretty late in the day.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 14:10:13 GMT -8
Actually I suppose that's technical enough a point that It's worth asking splinter for clarification. If a player uses a gift from the afterlife and dies in the same night, will that gift be revealed on their 'flip'? Yes
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Post by squidyj on Jan 17, 2016 14:10:39 GMT -8
I think if someone shot kawl with a vig power they should just come forward.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:11:02 GMT -8
Ok, so Ultron could have been given protect tonight then. So the fact that it wasn't declared is irrelevant.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 14:11:08 GMT -8
Actually I suppose that's technical enough a point that It's worth asking splinter for clarification. If a player uses a gift from the afterlife and dies in the same night, will that gift be revealed on their 'flip'? Yes Sorry I thought you said "receives" and dies. Whether they use it or not won't be indicated by their flip
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:12:43 GMT -8
Also, why do the spirits of the dead hate me? :<
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Post by cornb on Jan 17, 2016 14:13:36 GMT -8
Scary how dependent on Roy we are for info.
Actually I was wondering. Roy, if you die, does the Medium ability go back into circulation? You said it was passed around until you accepted it. If you die does it get passed around again or is it gone for good?
The only way I can see scum not killing Roy is if they figured he'd be protected, figured the medium would go back into play anyway, or want to set Roy up for a lynch. Which seems... like a bad plan given how dependent we are on him.
The second also seems like a bad reason to not kill Roy. I mean keeping Medium alive on the chance that it might recirculate?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 17, 2016 14:13:42 GMT -8
Okay so the gift won't be removed from them until the day phase starts. ie "we cannot tell whether or not kawl used his switcher ability last night from the fact that it shows him having the ability when he died."
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 14:15:57 GMT -8
Okay so the gift won't be removed from them until the day phase starts. ie "we cannot tell whether or not kawl used his switcher ability last night from the fact that it shows him having the ability when he died." It will show all gifts received, whether they used it or not, and even if they didn't have space to hold it
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:16:37 GMT -8
I'm going to assume that the "talk about this stuff and get modkilled" from the last flip was with regards to the dead game. So Sorian probably wasn't lying about that point either, and he did get to see the dead game when he "died." It was just the stuff about there being extra info there that was b/s.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:18:03 GMT -8
Wait actually, nobody gave Ultron protect last night. Dead thread knew he was going to be killed, why would anyone give him protect?
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Post by Bombay on Jan 17, 2016 14:19:55 GMT -8
Wait actually, nobody gave Ultron protect last night. Dead thread knew he was going to be killed, why would anyone give him protect? I'm assuming he got it the night before yesterday and never acknowledged it. It's crazy. I had a strong town read on Ultron. Kill Cabot or something. Jesus.
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Post by Bombay on Jan 17, 2016 14:21:26 GMT -8
VOTE: Squidyj
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Post by cornb on Jan 17, 2016 14:26:33 GMT -8
So really... if I had a kill kill power and was town.... would I use it? I don't think so. Maybe someone with more confidence tried to take a gamble, though I think Kawl wasn't a very strong gamble even without hindsight.
If I had a kill kill power and was scum... I'd use it on Roy, and then Ty in that order. Roy unless medium somehow is immune or recirculates if killed, and Ty because 3 powers. Lots of people besides Kawl had two powers. Why Kawl?
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Post by cornb on Jan 17, 2016 14:28:01 GMT -8
And no, I'm not trying to lead some lynch against Roy. I think that's too big a risk at this stage. Even if scum, Roy I think has to still relay at least SOME valid info from the dead thread. And I don't think he's scum to begin with.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:28:28 GMT -8
Wait actually, nobody gave Ultron protect last night. Dead thread knew he was going to be killed, why would anyone give him protect? I'm assuming he got it the night before yesterday and never acknowledged it. It's crazy. I had a strong town read on Ultron. Kill Cabot or something. Jesus. Yeah, it's the "not acknowledging it" part I don't like. It wasn't acknowledged on either side. I guess it's something for the dead game to deal with now anyway.
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Post by cornb on Jan 17, 2016 14:28:46 GMT -8
Hmm actually... wait Ty was it you who said you got a switching power? Did you switch yourself and Kawl?
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Post by Bombay on Jan 17, 2016 14:29:48 GMT -8
I think if someone shot kawl with a vig power they should just come forward. i don't think it's vig. i have think last night scum started night lynching. why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power. this makes me lean town on roy and ty4on. i thought ty was pretty scummy, but if roleblock is likely a scum power then why would they block their own? the gap here is that scum are lynching and a player likely lied about not getting a power yesterday. so, i'm voting for you right now. i think a lot of your posts now read like feigned ignorance to me
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 17, 2016 14:31:03 GMT -8
Hmm actually... wait Ty was it you who said you got a switching power? Did you switch yourself and Kawl? Ty and Kawl were both given powers by the same people last night, and Kawl flipped with Watcher and Switcher, so I'd assume that Ty has the same. If he went with what we discussed yesterday, he should have been watching Ultron.
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Post by Mazre on Jan 17, 2016 14:35:31 GMT -8
I think if someone shot kawl with a vig power they should just come forward. i don't think it's vig. i have think last night scum started night lynching. why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power. this makes me lean town on roy and ty4on. i thought ty was pretty scummy, but if roleblock is likely a scum power then why would they block their own? the gap here is that scum are lynching and a player likely lied about not getting a power yesterday. so, i'm voting for you right now. i think a lot of your posts now read like feigned ignorance to meYo Your tracking ability specifically mentioned that he was blocked? That seems unusual, surely it told you who blocked them as well.
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