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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 13:25:13 GMT -8
Thats what I get for trying to think at like 5am
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 13:27:46 GMT -8
Theory time: We have to lynch scum in this thread. Actually, it doesn't matter WHO we lynch. Because the people in limbo? They are playing mafia right now. This same mafia game. In limbo. And they need to lynch the scum in limbo land to finally banish all of them. TWO GAMES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. So basically I was right and am a mad fucking genius. Thanks for confirming Roy.
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 15, 2016 13:29:22 GMT -8
I received just as many to Ty, who is one of my top scum So you did, I blame Roy for inconsistently abbreviating. I blame him for a lot of things.
But guess the "secret" is out then huh Roy? I finally got to breadcrumb something and you just had to take the wind out of my sails like that
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Post by Bombay on Jan 15, 2016 13:30:42 GMT -8
Vote: Trigger
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 15, 2016 13:49:27 GMT -8
Theory time: We have to lynch scum in this thread. Actually, it doesn't matter WHO we lynch. Because the people in limbo? They are playing mafia right now. This same mafia game. In limbo. And they need to lynch the scum in limbo land to finally banish all of them. TWO GAMES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. So basically I was right and am a mad fucking genius. Thanks for confirming Roy. The whole afterlife thread was super confused when you posted that. Was it really just a random theory?
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 15, 2016 13:50:57 GMT -8
Theory time: We have to lynch scum in this thread. Actually, it doesn't matter WHO we lynch. Because the people in limbo? They are playing mafia right now. This same mafia game. In limbo. And they need to lynch the scum in limbo land to finally banish all of them. TWO GAMES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. So basically I was right and am a mad fucking genius. Thanks for confirming Roy. Not even going to attempt to explain how it was so spot on? Terrabyte asked you already, I will too. Just seems like too close to be a simple coincidence, and it doesn't look like anyone has said they gave you a gift.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:03:33 GMT -8
So basically I was right and am a mad fucking genius. Thanks for confirming Roy. The whole afterlife thread was super confused when you posted that. Was it really just a random theory? It actually was a theory I had without any outside/special PR role information. I wouldn't say random though. The whole "on death" thing and limbo concept meant that there had to be some way to get rid of people for good. And since having that be left to one role would be asinine, I went with the only thing that made sense. Which is that the dead people had to somehow be voting for other dead people. It would also explain why alignments weren't shown. So yeah, I think there was enough in the thread to kind of give it away. I'm a bit shocked that I was that on the ball though.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:04:32 GMT -8
And no, nobody gave me a gift. I'm a bit salty about that tbh.
Also I must have missed it, but limboland already voted out two people? Blarg and someone else? Blarg was scum?
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:07:34 GMT -8
Also as for scum having to kill "everyone", Splinter do you allow self voting? Because basically this means scum even has to vote out themselves right? Like they need to send all the townies to limboland and then send themselves?
Or do they have to kill kill everyone? As in, kill everyone in limboland too?
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:12:41 GMT -8
Here are the people who reacted to said theory: Mind. Blown. So what the hell are we doing then? Killing of players who we think are mafia even though we don't even get to see their alignment in order to put them into limbo and then they get to play the real game? What the hell is wrong with you Splinter. "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams!" 7/11 was a part time job guys. We gotta play the best game of mafia we can up here and let the dead sort themselves out. These off the wall theories just seem like distracting fluff. And then there's this: Obviously we want to lynch town first so they have a number advantange. I find this all fascinating myself to be honest. Someone else actually used the word banish I think. Or I got it from playing Yugioh so often. Cards removed from the graveyard are banished in that game. Anyway thanks for quoting the people who reacted. It is indeed interesting. The theory did seem asinine at the time, but I felt it had a certain logic to it. Unforuntately me being so crazy at the time makes it hard to tell if, for example, Kawl dismissed it because it was crazy on the surface to him, or because it was correct and he didn't want people to consider it. Same with Coppunuvah. nin at the very least didn't try to dismiss it. I will say though, if scum knew about it, why would their immediate reaction to be to try to dismiss it? Either they thought I guessed it randomly, or they thought I had some sort of outside information. And then why try to tell a possible PR that their special outside knowledge is wrong? So my scum feelings aren't -that- strong towards either of them for dismissing it.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 15, 2016 14:15:25 GMT -8
The word "banish" is used in the town win condition.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:15:26 GMT -8
The "we want to lynch town first so they have a number advantage" actually was a joke. Though it raises an interesting question. If scum had number advantage in limboland, do they auto win? Or does town win if we send them all to limboland, and the limboland game is just to prevent scum from impacting this game from the graveyard?
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Post by Mazre on Jan 15, 2016 14:16:33 GMT -8
Someone else actually used the word banish I think. VOTE: cornb
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Post by Bombay on Jan 15, 2016 14:17:56 GMT -8
It seemed obvious to me, I was just playing dumb. It really spells it out between the gift message and splinters in-thread message. Idk why Kawl didn't catch it, since he got a gift.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 15, 2016 14:19:29 GMT -8
The "we want to lynch town first so they have a number advantage" actually was a joke. Though it raises an interesting question. If scum had number advantage in limboland, do they auto win? Or does town win if we send them all to limboland, and the limboland game is just to prevent scum from impacting this game from the graveyard? Since our win condition is to banish, not kill all the evil spirits, I'd assume that they actually have to be removed from limboland too.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:26:12 GMT -8
how does this make sense in a world where ridli is scum? this isn't an alignment test, it's a role name test. if ridli is scum, then scum have Ordinary Villager too (because Splinter isn't lying about role text). ridli really should've flipped with a scum role name. if being a medium makes you a miller, shouldn't we have alignment cops and not role name cops? Was this answered? Because it makes sense. I don't believe it (yet anyway), but Roy could also have been late on the claim because he and his scum buddies sat around to think it up. But this is a seemingly glaring hole. If we have role cops, how is ridli scum?
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:27:31 GMT -8
Someone else actually used the word banish I think. VOTE: cornb Ok?
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:29:03 GMT -8
Not that I really care if you lynch me (I get to go to limboland, woohoo) but can you explain the vote Mazre?
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Post by Mazre on Jan 15, 2016 14:34:57 GMT -8
Not that I really care if you lynch me (I get to go to limboland, woohoo) but can you explain the vote Mazre? If you were town there wouldn't be confusion about where that term came from at this point in the game.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 15, 2016 14:35:06 GMT -8
Assuming most of what he's said is true, Roy can't lie even if he is scum. Limbo thread would pick up on any misinformation he conveys to us and vote him out. And a good amount of what he's said at least has to be true, since nobody who's received powers has come forward to contradict it. And on the "banish" thing: If people really do want to get hung up on that point despite it being in the role PM. cornb noted it when pointing out the typo between Zipped and LoC's flips: gafia.boards.net/post/19807 and Darryl even used it a few posts before Cornb's speculation post: gafia.boards.net/post/19901.
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Post by Mazre on Jan 15, 2016 14:42:29 GMT -8
Thanks for that crimson. So that leaves me with corn is just incompetent or he actively wants to be lynched. If he's scum we have to lynch him anyway, if he's town then we should help him along, the only reason we shouldn't lynch him is if he's neutral.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:43:24 GMT -8
Not that I really care if you lynch me (I get to go to limboland, woohoo) but can you explain the vote Mazre? If you were town there wouldn't be confusion about where that term came from at this point in the game. I dont really reread my role PM every time before I post so nah.
Also LoC's entire PM was posted so...
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Post by squidyj on Jan 15, 2016 14:44:21 GMT -8
perhaps we should request a demonstration of the night power by communicating our desire for a specific kill. If roy is lying about that then he's at no risk as scum.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:48:27 GMT -8
Thanks for that crimson. So that leaves me with corn is just incompetent or he actively wants to be lynched. If he's scum we have to lynch him anyway, if he's town then we should help him along, the only reason we shouldn't lynch him is if he's neutral. Or I thought that it wasn't really worth remembering where I got "banished" from because there were at least 4 different sources and it doesn't even matter. But you got me. I'm SCUMMMMMM. Fuck and my teammates warned me to not use the word "banished!" They even provided me an alibi in case I accidentally used the obscure word, but I just couldnt bring myself to use it.
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 14:53:01 GMT -8
Anyway given how right I've been about certain things, I'm keeping my vote on Czar I think.
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Post by Bombay on Jan 15, 2016 14:54:14 GMT -8
how does this make sense in a world where ridli is scum? this isn't an alignment test, it's a role name test. if ridli is scum, then scum have Ordinary Villager too (because Splinter isn't lying about role text). ridli really should've flipped with a scum role name. if being a medium makes you a miller, shouldn't we have alignment cops and not role name cops? Was this answered? Because it makes sense. I don't believe it (yet anyway), but Roy could also have been late on the claim because he and his scum buddies sat around to think it up. But this is a seemingly glaring hole. If we have role cops, how is ridli scum? Like the only option I can see is that ridli was some kind of scum miller, who fakeclaimed a town miller. It's a weird scenario. I just don't see why we would have unnamed scum
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 15, 2016 14:58:55 GMT -8
I can confirm that I received three gifts last night (thanks!). I'm also limited to three, but will of course use one tonight.
If Roy is telling the truth about banishing evil spirits from the afterlife; why haven't anyone brought up that we could help them by making reads of dead people? A lot of effort, I agree, but we can't afford a scum majority there. Even if all scum have 'died' there would be an equal number of townies coming in and out so scum would have won the game. That is unless we have more volcano eruptions coming...
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 15, 2016 15:06:54 GMT -8
Yo dead people Could you hook a brother up
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Post by cornb on Jan 15, 2016 15:11:08 GMT -8
Wow why was Ty given 3 fucking gifts and I was given zero.
Fuck u dead people.
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 15, 2016 15:18:49 GMT -8
Wow why was Ty given 3 fucking gifts and I was given zero. Fuck u dead people. I believe you
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