No one can tell you that 'cept Splinter, luv. Zipped got a full flip, so who's to say others won't? It's all an enigma at the moment.

Yes, shouldn't be an issue today.

I don't like Terra seeming to fall for cb's clear nonsense. I understand this is a bastard game, but cb was talking absolute ass.

in firmware update 3.16? Stability update?

I agree with you on roy here, what do you think of scum roy bringing up the point about 'role wasnt RNG'd, it's too obviously a joke/reference'? 

This is one thing I struggle seeing scum doing, especially on D1 in a 31 player game.

Btw I think Sorian was scum. Leaving out that he'd become ordinary? Unless he didn't know, the confusion it generates is so bad I can't imagine him not saying it.

I also no longer belief in multiple scum factions.

Alright, so, I think it is time for me to come clean:

I am the medium, I took the deal night 1. This will be a huge role claim, so I will separate it in separate parts.

The offer

I originally was an ordinary towny on day 1 (the coincidence in my role pm I talked about referred to my spirit animal, not my role). On night 1, I got offered a deal: I would get a very important role, but it would have downsides. If I refused the deal, it would be offered to another person the following night. I took the deal.

My role

I am a medium with full access to the afterlife thread. I can both read it and post in there. The only restriction I have is that I can't use the quote function to directly quote someone from there onto here (but I am allowed to copy and paste text). The downsides are A) I am indeed now a miller, and B) I can't be bestowed by the ghosts in there (more on that later).

The afterlife thread (AKA, how this game actually works)

So this is how this game works: if you die here on the island, you get send into the afterlife. The afterlife has a day phase and a night phase running parallel to this thread. During the day phase, people vote on an afterlife member to banish, removing him from the game. This will show us their flip, including their alignment. During the night, people vote for an alive island member to kill and force into the afterlife (last night that was Sorian). ghosts can also send in night commands during this period, which includes scum who can night banish someone. We get to see the flip (and alignment) of people that get banished during the night by powers.

Ghost powers

Many of the ghosts got new powers when they entered the afterlife. A lot of them now has the ability to bestow powers on living players. Basically, they can give alive players one shot powers, a one shot cop power, a one shot doctor power, a one shot tracker etc. Those can only be used by alive players the following night at the earliest, and you can only hold three of them at the same time. I know for a fact a lot of you guys have received those powers last night. I can even give names if you like, but we probably should discuss that first.

Things that happened in the afterlife

Day 1: there was nobody there.
Night 1: Only zipped was there, and there was no night vote.
Day 2: They voted to banish L_P, his flip:

A manipulative spirit, which could posses an alive player during the night, which would give him a list of the powers that person had, and then could decide who they will target that night and which ability they would use. aligned with the Evil spirits.

Night 2: They decided to kill Sorian.
Day 3: Two people actually turned up banished:

- Zipped. Flip: An inquisitive spirit. He could bestow two one-shot investigation powers to an islander per night. Aligned with the Islanders.
- Blarg. Flip: A Dishonest spirit. He could frame one alive person every night. If they are town, they would show up as a random scum role name for investigators, and if they are scum, they show up as a random town role name. Aligned with the evil spirits.

Why Ridli is a lair

Simply put: he knew things he couldn't have known if he really got the deal on night 0. The deal only told me that I would get a very powerful role, and that it had downsides. It didn't say what the role or downsides were. Yet Ridli knew those details when he claimed to have received the deal, but refused it. I was warned in my new role pm that there could be infiltrators in the afterlife, so it was not hard to come to the conclusion Ridli was probably scum, and got the information from their scum chat. After L_P his flip confirmed that scum kept access to scum chat even after they died, that removed all doubt.

Why claim now and not earlier?

I didn't claim day 2 because I didn't had any concrete information outside of how the game works. There weren't any flips yet I could tell you guys. Also, before the whole Ridli ordeal I didn't knew if scum could communicate with their dead team members or not, and considering people that would get heal powers bestowed couldn't use it until night 3, I decided to try and stay hidden until I had more useful information. After L_P his flip confirmed scum could talk between threads (and thus likely know who I am), the Ridli and Sorian "flips" showed that we wouldn't get alignments at all here on the island and I now have information about two scum flips, I decided it would be better for me to come clean. Only Sorian dying last night also made me more confident that scum only has a direct night banish and not a direct night kill, and the fact that the heal bestow powers can now be used to protect me, I thought it was a lot safer to claim now.

Thanks for clearing a lot of confusion Roy.

What a way to have scum Blarg.

roy, can you confirm zipped gave someone a cop power before banishment?

Most likely. The wording in the ghost role PM's is a bit weird though, it leaves open the possibility of your alignment to changed upon entering the afterlife, but we have no real proof that can happen. It is clear all the flips that we had up until now had kept their alignment.



Unfortunately, I can't. He didn't told us his targets or even his power before his banishment.

Also, Sorian reminded me to tell you guys about a theory we have in the afterlife:

Zipped didn't knew about his outsider role before he died. So we think the first lynch would have always caused the volcano explosion and all those deaths, in order to populate the afterlife with players. It makes sense, since having an afterlife with like 3 players wouldn't really work. Also, Zipped was not amused about us calling him a terrible player, especially considering he didn't knew about that part of his death. Sorry Zipped

Clarifying my point, was Zipped's banishment a mafia action in the afterlife game?

I've got a feeling that claims here on the island are probably useless, alignment is what matters.

The powers (outside of the Medium) are not in the roles, they are from the afterlife.