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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:23:09 GMT -8
Kind of seems weird how you aren't allowed to mention certain things about the deadplane, but are allowed to outright state that you are forbidden from talking about it. yeah, it is sorta strange, at least using reference point of starsketch in gafia
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 10, 2016 11:25:51 GMT -8
Careful is probably my middle name.
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 10, 2016 11:30:27 GMT -8
Scrafty and Sorian are wasted votes. Zipped is better. As is squid. I'm staying with trigger though.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 10, 2016 11:32:32 GMT -8
Xam and Kalor's non-sense early on (confusion in role PMs), Darryl's hard stance on me and then new hard stance on Nin, this bubbling of newbie sacrifice that I see cropping up, Roy being a topic of debate which is new for him since he is usually a wall flower early on, etc. Blarg has never proven to be high utility on the first day, he is more useful as time goes on. I'm not into policy lynching because you find him annoying. Nin's responses are bugging me too but you don't usually get sarcastic until you've given up with a game or otherwise are annoyed by something happening in the game (maybe your claim of all the soft claims earlier bugging you was true, maybe not). Nin, on the otherhand, is usually sarcastic the whole way through and would have made for a smarter policy lynch IMO but I don't like policy lynching the first day, it gets us nothing in reads unless we happen to choose a scum out of the hat. Correct me if I'm wrong but you keep comparing Blarg to people like Launch and Pop who hadn't posted anything at the time (Pop has no but his post is worthless), you were trying to sell Blarg as an inactive policy lynch, the fact that it doesn't bother you with some but bothers you with others seems more telling IMO. Xam still gives me a weird vibe since he seemed to be reading his role PM so much differently than the rest of us. I hate to do the same thing I did in NV but I find it weird that he was so confused by banish all evil spirits, appease volcano. After that, I'm shakier. Dusk comes to mind because he has posted but they've been so inconsequential that I hardly remember what he's said. Hyper also comes to mind because his activity has seemed like an act but I don't question RL stuff so I'm not bothering on that right now. If anything, I'm at least fairly certain that Ridli is town, it's rare that scum (even as a newbie) would push so many bad ideas that are universally getting panned and still keep it going. He doesn't seem to have back up to me so I guess I shouldn't say town and just say that I don't think he is scum. Darryl is being consistent as well which doesn't say he is town but it's what I've come to expect. And actually, Squidy would be my other top scum with Xam. I just remembered that he has been acting very odd with how passive he has been. It almost seems purposeful which I find odd. I know I had corn before but he's kind of disappeared and I can't say I had the strongest read on him at the time so he has gone more null read at this point. Thank you for being specific. - I did comment on the Kalor thing. I am willing to look past the PM thing because I too tend to skim that fluff stuff and rarely take it in. It's kalor's passivity since then that is why he is on my would vote list. - I did comment on the darryl / you thing, I told him his logic was laughably bad. I am null reading him aside from that. - I never vote for newbies on day one. Ever. - I did comment on roy and stated I would vote for him, and backed off due to the soft claim. I am still suspicious of him though, just not eager to vote for him today. - I too do not put a lot of effort into the early game. Ask anyone in woof 2. It's bs that you are giving blarg a pass for meta reasons while riding my ass when my meta applies just as well. I tend to not put effort into the game until mid game. - I told you nin was annoying me and you claim I only get sarcastic when annoyed so what's the problem here? - "Correct me if I'm wrong but you keep comparing Blarg to people like Launch and Pop" Completely incorrect, I said after a bunch of posts blarg has been as helpful as those who have never posted. I never claimed blarg was inactive, just unhelpful and a person who will hurt town regardless of his alignment. I stand by that completely and will continue to stand by it in every game we're both in unless his playstyle drastically changes. - Xam I am null, slightly town, reading mostly for meta reasons. I've played with you a lot less than Blarg, I'm sure that's part of it. Honestly, you are handling all of this very well. I was slightly reaching for this vote to begin with and I can admit I'm losing it. I'm considering our options.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 10, 2016 11:32:47 GMT -8
Scrafty and Sorian are wasted votes. Zipped is better. As is squid. I'm staying with trigger though. Why is a vote on Scrafty a waste? I'm also curious why I haven't seen anyone mention Crimson or Swamped.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 10, 2016 11:34:50 GMT -8
Kind of seems weird how you aren't allowed to mention certain things about the deadplane, but are allowed to outright state that you are forbidden from talking about it. yeah, it is sorta strange, at least using reference point of starsketch in gafia You and Corn are ignoring that this was all very public. It would be kind of crippling if I had to just ignore everything related to it. I'll admit that I'm glad this isn't like NX where I had to not say I was under a post restriction but the idea is still the same.
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Post by karu on Jan 10, 2016 11:35:21 GMT -8
I was going through his posts earlier and he doesn't encourage sharing out spirit animals. In fact he explicitly says not to share them. Sure he brought them up as a point of discussion but someone had to at some point. You're right. I might have taken my Vote off him, because of that, but there's still his Drive-by Vote. Want to hear about that.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 10, 2016 11:36:45 GMT -8
Roy is still my top choice but I wouldn't mind voting for Squid if needed (I should be available at deadline). He has thrown suspicion on me and Darryl without backing up, and also without directly addressing either of us. I initially town read him because of that 'hex' thing though. But why pick LoC as the target? He claims it's random, but I'm not sure I believe that given how visible LoC was at that time.
I am island-reading scrafty. Would not vote for her.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 10, 2016 11:37:05 GMT -8
Scrafty and Sorian are wasted votes. Zipped is better. As is squid. I'm staying with trigger though. Why is a vote on Scrafty a waste? I'm also curious why I haven't seen anyone mention Crimson or Swamped. Man, I keep forgetting Crimson is even in this game. I'm having trouble with this 31 person show. Swamped I did remember but I've been burned on early Swamped lynches before and she's acting the same as she did in those game, background but concise.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 10, 2016 11:38:27 GMT -8
Ok, Final Fantasy is over, so I can finally make the point I've wanted to wrt Sorian's role, even though we've kind of moved past that topic now:
It reminds me a lot of Blarg's role there, which was clearly not RNG assigned and was fairly public. So there is a precedent for certain posters being given certain roles. Especially with this one being advertised as more bastardly.
And yeah, I even raised the point myself earlier that people keep forgetting me on read lists and stuff.
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 10, 2016 11:40:05 GMT -8
Scrafty and Sorian are wasted votes. Zipped is better. As is squid. I'm staying with trigger though. Why is a vote on Scrafty a waste? I'm also curious why I haven't seen anyone mention Crimson or Swamped. If you've given up on hitting scum today, go for it.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 10, 2016 11:40:24 GMT -8
Ok, Final Fantasy is over, so I can finally make the point I've wanted to wrt Sorian's role, even though we've kind of moved past that topic now: It reminds me a lot of Blarg's role there, which was clearly not RNG assigned and was fairly public. So there is a precedent for certain posters being given certain roles. Especially with this one being advertised as more bastardly. And yeah, I even raised the point myself earlier that people keep forgetting me on read lists and stuff. Luv, I assure you that Sorian and Blargonaut's roles were 100% randomly assigned. I have witnesses as well.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:41:15 GMT -8
Feel free to modkill me *Splinter if roles weren't RNG'ed
that shit would be stupid, i would hope you wouldn't actually do that
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Post by Sorian on Jan 10, 2016 11:42:47 GMT -8
Ok, Final Fantasy is over, so I can finally make the point I've wanted to wrt Sorian's role, even though we've kind of moved past that topic now: It reminds me a lot of Blarg's role there, which was clearly not RNG assigned and was fairly public. So there is a precedent for certain posters being given certain roles. Especially with this one being advertised as more bastardly. And yeah, I even raised the point myself earlier that people keep forgetting me on read lists and stuff. Luv, I assure you that Sorian and Blargonaut's roles were 100% randomly assigned. I have witnesses as well. You have witnesses? Lol Anyway, I don't doubt that my role was RNG assigned and really, it doesn't matter either way. I got the role I did and presumably, it was all assigned before the rules in the OP went up.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 10, 2016 11:43:01 GMT -8
Sterling Archer is my Spirit Animal. maaaaaaaaaaan. I don't want to read 9 pages of stuff since I last checked in.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 10, 2016 11:43:12 GMT -8
Oh, I honestly thought that Blarg was given that role in FF manually, nvm then.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 10, 2016 11:44:11 GMT -8
Feel free to modkill me *Splinter if roles weren't RNG'ed that shit would be stupid, i would hope you wouldn't actually do that I've been debating whether or not to address this - personally I'd have this reaction too if I were in a game where I believed roles weren't RNG'd. I would never pick and choose roles for people. This is Bastard but come on, there are limits.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:44:51 GMT -8
So roy is just full of shit
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Post by cabot on Jan 10, 2016 11:45:34 GMT -8
Kawl very much seems like he is putting on a show. The research looks like it is on point though so it may just be his analytical style. Just something I'm noticing. Can't say I, personally, agree with a Scrafty vote though. I didn't like her claiming useless but it seemed sincere. Side bar: I'm switching over to mobile soon and will be that way for the rest of the day. I'll be around at time though just smaller posts since mobile is annoying. I get that a lot, so meh. Also, well that's the thing with Scrafty. Either she is worthless (which in my mind is vanilla) or her role is something that corroborated Roy's theory that roles weren't randomly assigned. I'm not sure if both of these could be true. No way they both can be true. If she's vanilla, how does that corroborate Roy's theory of non-RNG, whats special about being ordinary? I'd have to assume there's a role there.
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 10, 2016 11:45:43 GMT -8
Feel free to modkill me *Splinter if roles weren't RNG'ed that shit would be stupid, i would hope you wouldn't actually do that I've been debating whether or not to address this - personally I'd have this reaction too if I were in a game where I believed roles weren't RNG'd. I would never pick and choose roles for people. This is Bastard but come on, there are limits. Then how can you explain my role name MAFIA GOD???
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Post by Splinter on Jan 10, 2016 11:47:43 GMT -8
I've been debating whether or not to address this - personally I'd have this reaction too if I were in a game where I believed roles weren't RNG'd. I would never pick and choose roles for people. This is Bastard but come on, there are limits. Then how can you explain my role name MAFIA GOD??? Obviously I'd make an exception for Tim. I try to be fair but come on, there are limits.
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Post by Kawl on Jan 10, 2016 11:47:57 GMT -8
I get that a lot, so meh. Also, well that's the thing with Scrafty. Either she is worthless (which in my mind is vanilla) or her role is something that corroborated Roy's theory that roles weren't randomly assigned. I'm not sure if both of these could be true. No way they both can be true. If she's vanilla, how does that corroborate Roy's theory of non-RNG, whats special about being ordinary? I'd have to assume there's a role there. She clarified above. Not "worthless" but tells more with her flip than her lips. Make of that what you will. #barposting #feellikecabot
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Post by Splinter on Jan 10, 2016 11:51:17 GMT -8
(That was a joke)
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:51:47 GMT -8
Notes being made from beginning of game, excuse me for disordered mess:
-Sorian clearly know what was going to happen -Kalor says he doesn't know who we're against -*Splinter "eh close enough" = previous agreement
-LoC loves snakes Kalor said he hadn't read full role pm
-Kalor skimmed over his role Darryl- jokingly says spirit animal is pada -Cabot- "If I had one, would be lamb"
-LoC's role talks about countdown -ridlli- get rid of two people on day 1 -crimsonfirst- called for Kalor to claim -LoC claims protection tonight
-Sorian is back- claims to have information, multiple scum teams -Roy doesn't want Sorian lynched -Sorian doesn't want to die by lynch
-Scrafty eventually want to off Sorian, not today - is against LoC
-LoC- "I have a plan"
-Roytheone- "why would LoC be so open"
-Squidyj hex- wanted to fakeclaim something, got annoyed- seemed to want to pressure LoC? -Sorian: animal VERY important
-Corn, Darryl: modkill was a joke -Ridlli asks for himself and Sorian to be lynched -Scrafty claims she doesn't care about being lynched
Darryl susp. of:
-Cabot -Sorian -nin1000 -Roytheone
-nin1000 dismisses Darryl's suspicions -Squidyj susp of darryl, says to hold off of lynch though
-nin1000 town list: -Cabot
-Roytheone susp. of xamtheking
Roytheone: believes roles aren't 100% RNG'ed, splinter maximized amusement
GENERAL THOUGHT: nin1000 is acting INCREDIBLY erratic
Czartim susp list and stuff: -doesn't trust Sorian, not scum -thinks Darryl's reaction to Sorian overblown -THINKS LoC isn't scum -feels cabot and sawneeks are town -will vote Scrafty
Swamped: -THINKS xam is town -Roy top scum -Ty is top town -LoC not scum
Sorian: -ridlli = misguided newwbie - skeptical of cornB and squidyj -xam has different role pm (acting like it)
"big coincidence in my role PM" - roytheone -Scrafty echoes thought
Squidyj- lynch cornB, also feel bad about Swamped
-Czar wants to lynch blarg -CornB against this
-LoC admits to breadcumbing role to someone
-GUT- xam not acting like scum xam nor werewoof -LoC votes Kawl -voting inactives -thinks kawl is scum -also thinks hyper is good lynch
Ty4on believes death=spirit world
CornB mentions player not being allowed to talk about roles talking about that
Czartim scum list: - blarg, kawl, scrafty, Kalor, nin1000
nin1000: - Scrafty vs LoC fakes - gives Scrafty benefit of doubt
-nin1000: talks about blarg, says fuck all -random weird posts
-Kawl:-Xam's fluff is town -scrafty is scummy
-Sorian again defends ridlli
Swamped feels good about ridlli
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 10, 2016 11:52:05 GMT -8
Why is a vote on Scrafty a waste? I'm also curious why I haven't seen anyone mention Crimson or Swamped. If you've given up on hitting scum today, go for it. Why do you think I asked that question?
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Post by cabot on Jan 10, 2016 11:52:19 GMT -8
Feel free to modkill me *Splinter if roles weren't RNG'ed that shit would be stupid, i would hope you wouldn't actually do that I've been debating whether or not to address this - personally I'd have this reaction too if I were in a game where I believed roles weren't RNG'd. I would never pick and choose roles for people. This is Bastard but come on, there are limits. Well Roy's theory is dead, and Scrafty has half a role claim out of it. Lovely.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:52:44 GMT -8
LoC pls be careful, any scum will be too cautious to fall for your trap
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:54:49 GMT -8
Random guess, assuming multiple scum
- 5 main scum - 2 man scum - 1-2 neutral, leaning more toward town side
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 10, 2016 11:54:50 GMT -8
Ok, Final Fantasy is over, so I can finally make the point I've wanted to wrt Sorian's role, even though we've kind of moved past that topic now: It reminds me a lot of Blarg's role there, which was clearly not RNG assigned and was fairly public. So there is a precedent for certain posters being given certain roles. Especially with this one being advertised as more bastardly. And yeah, I even raised the point myself earlier that people keep forgetting me on read lists and stuff. Luv, I assure you that Sorian and Blargonaut's roles were 100% randomly assigned. I have witnesses as well. You mean you went through the motions of having them randomly assigned and RNGJesus was like "let's make this fun" (Is joke)
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 10, 2016 11:55:18 GMT -8
shit only two more hours seriously?
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