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Post by Sorian on Jan 23, 2016 20:17:17 GMT -8
Terra or Karu, did one of you gift cabot last night?
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 23, 2016 20:19:00 GMT -8
...I swear if scum!cabot tried to get me killed  |
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 23, 2016 20:19:09 GMT -8
Does the switcher madness affect who get's what from the afterlife?
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 23, 2016 20:19:38 GMT -8
Terra or Karu, did one of you gift cabot last night? No, I gifted Darryl and Cornb. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 23, 2016 20:23:09 GMT -8
Does the switcher madness affect who get's what from the afterlife? No, whoever we vote to lynch/kill and whoever we choose to bestow goes through all protects, switches, etc. without an hindrance. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 23, 2016 20:29:49 GMT -8
I'm sure you'll be on it when you get back Roy but let them know that we have 2 claimed switcher bestowers down here + Squidy and yes, all are named mischievous.
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Post by karu on Jan 24, 2016 8:38:58 GMT -8
Terra or Karu, did one of you gift cabot last night? Nope. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 24, 2016 9:18:23 GMT -8
Terra or Karu, did one of you gift cabot last night? Nope. Who did you gift? I have an idea, but just want to be sure. |
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 24, 2016 9:25:28 GMT -8
In regards to the debate about if I had 2 spirit checks: I only ever had 1 at a time. I received a spirit check the first night bestows were given from Kalor, and used it as I had to. I received the second one later, but one of those switchers was used the first night bestowments were in play. If you doubt me, Roy can verify it by getting Darryl's spirit animal and having him confirm it was badger. I never used the second spirit check.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 24, 2016 10:47:58 GMT -8
You know, spirit animal checks would actually help here since it could confirm who someone ended up checking........
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Post by Sorian on Jan 24, 2016 10:50:00 GMT -8
I just shoveled snow for like 3 hours and came back to all this switcher analysis. lol I'm going back to sleep. On a quick read though, it looks like Mazre knows what he is talking about, I detect no errors.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 24, 2016 11:02:46 GMT -8
I just shoveled snow for like 3 hours and came back to all this switcher analysis. lol I'm going back to sleep. On a quick read though, it looks like Mazre knows what he is talking about, I detect no errors. I am going to make my own analysis quickly. Not that I don't trust Mazre, but it helps me to understand everything better. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 24, 2016 12:47:38 GMT -8
I know we have already discussed and figured out the Scum Team size but I had an idea I need to work out.
Protect
Track
Watch
Voyuer
Check Animal
Check Potential (other)
Check Potential (self)
Switch
This is the list of confirmed powers that Town has available right now and I doubt any new powers are going to miraculously appear. We have 31 players in this game and 8 Town powers, assuming we will have no other new powers show up this means that there is a possibility of 3 of each of the above as Afterlife Bestows. That would leave us at 24 total Afterlife PRs and 7 unaccounted for Players. This can be broken down further with Trigger/KK assuming 1 of the mystery players, leaving 6 unaccounted for players which are presumably the Scum Team.
Town: 24 players
Afterlife PRs: 3 of each?
Scum: 6 players
Scum Afterlife PRs: Two of each? ( going off of the current flips )
Ghostbuster: Trigger/KK
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 24, 2016 12:51:56 GMT -8
Also Cabot and his missing Power. It bothers me, a lot. I'm unsure if he is lying or not but the end result is he is more-than-likely going to be lynched. Is he Scum trying to get here? A Townie who ran into some unfortunate circumstances? It's hard to tell right now, but if he actually did not receive that Bestow it means we have another Scum here, a Blocker at that. The OG Crew is slowly disappearing and out of those left ( + Sorian ) there might be Scum there, it's the only other explanation as to what happened other than Cabot lying. If we go by the original 'only 22% Scum in the first 9 deaths' analysis this literally only leaves Sorian as the possible suspect.
This is going to be dictated by Cabot's flip and what powers he drops upon death but, until then, I do want Karu and Magnum's thoughts on this possibility seeing as we are the only 3 left from the original 9.
Also! Coppa! What do you Bestow?
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 24, 2016 14:56:57 GMT -8
Also Cabot and his missing Power. It bothers me, a lot. I'm unsure if he is lying or not but the end result is he is more-than-likely going to be lynched. Is he Scum trying to get here? A Townie who ran into some unfortunate circumstances? It's hard to tell right now, but if he actually did not receive that Bestow it means we have another Scum here, a Blocker at that. The OG Crew is slowly disappearing and out of those left ( + Sorian ) there might be Scum there, it's the only other explanation as to what happened other than Cabot lying. If we go by the original 'only 22% Scum in the first 9 deaths' analysis this literally only leaves Sorian as the possible suspect. This is going to be dictated by Cabot's flip and what powers he drops upon death but, until then, I do want Karu and Magnum's thoughts on this possibility seeing as we are the only 3 left from the original 9. Also! Coppa! What do you Bestow? I give out protects. As for the Cabot thing that's an interesting theory... I'm working off of memory here so I might be getting it wrong, but didn't the blocked player receive notice that they were blocked? If so, and if someone bestowed them, is that player still around here to confirm if they were informed the bestowal failed? |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 24, 2016 15:09:28 GMT -8
Also Cabot and his missing Power. It bothers me, a lot. I'm unsure if he is lying or not but the end result is he is more-than-likely going to be lynched. Is he Scum trying to get here? A Townie who ran into some unfortunate circumstances? It's hard to tell right now, but if he actually did not receive that Bestow it means we have another Scum here, a Blocker at that. The OG Crew is slowly disappearing and out of those left ( + Sorian ) there might be Scum there, it's the only other explanation as to what happened other than Cabot lying. If we go by the original 'only 22% Scum in the first 9 deaths' analysis this literally only leaves Sorian as the possible suspect. This is going to be dictated by Cabot's flip and what powers he drops upon death but, until then, I do want Karu and Magnum's thoughts on this possibility seeing as we are the only 3 left from the original 9. Also! Coppa! What do you Bestow? Even if we figure out the weird bestow business with cabby, that still leaves the fact that he got seen visiting Darryl, while he claims to not have done anything this night. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 24, 2016 16:31:46 GMT -8
Also Cabot and his missing Power. It bothers me, a lot. I'm unsure if he is lying or not but the end result is he is more-than-likely going to be lynched. Is he Scum trying to get here? A Townie who ran into some unfortunate circumstances? It's hard to tell right now, but if he actually did not receive that Bestow it means we have another Scum here, a Blocker at that. The OG Crew is slowly disappearing and out of those left ( + Sorian ) there might be Scum there, it's the only other explanation as to what happened other than Cabot lying. If we go by the original 'only 22% Scum in the first 9 deaths' analysis this literally only leaves Sorian as the possible suspect. This is going to be dictated by Cabot's flip and what powers he drops upon death but, until then, I do want Karu and Magnum's thoughts on this possibility seeing as we are the only 3 left from the original 9. Also! Coppa! What do you Bestow? I give out protects. As for the Cabot thing that's an interesting theory... I'm working off of memory here so I might be getting it wrong, but didn't the blocked player receive notice that they were blocked? If so, and if someone bestowed them, is that player still around here to confirm if they were informed the bestowal failed? Hm, okay. I believe it was Ty who was blocked, can't remember if he ever said he was notified though. Also Cabot and his missing Power. It bothers me, a lot. I'm unsure if he is lying or not but the end result is he is more-than-likely going to be lynched. Is he Scum trying to get here? A Townie who ran into some unfortunate circumstances? It's hard to tell right now, but if he actually did not receive that Bestow it means we have another Scum here, a Blocker at that. The OG Crew is slowly disappearing and out of those left ( + Sorian ) there might be Scum there, it's the only other explanation as to what happened other than Cabot lying. If we go by the original 'only 22% Scum in the first 9 deaths' analysis this literally only leaves Sorian as the possible suspect. This is going to be dictated by Cabot's flip and what powers he drops upon death but, until then, I do want Karu and Magnum's thoughts on this possibility seeing as we are the only 3 left from the original 9. Also! Coppa! What do you Bestow? Even if we figure out the weird bestow business with cabby, that still leaves the fact that he got seen visiting Darryl, while he claims to not have done anything this night. :( Multiple switchers is the worst. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 25, 2016 2:44:14 GMT -8
Making that contradiction post, I think we should banish Terra probably. None of his bestows got confirmed, and he also bestows the power that is probably the most detrimental to town, so do we want him to bestow again tonight so that we can check him? Which would bring MORE switchers into play? I am not feeling that.
Also, Sorian, I am still not 100 % sure on you being town, so keep that in mind when picking your bestows.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 25, 2016 5:58:10 GMT -8
Who were the people that were supposed to confirm Terra?
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 25, 2016 6:13:33 GMT -8
Who were the people that were supposed to confirm Terra? | | V If you want a confirmation, go ask Cornb and Bombay. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 25, 2016 6:23:39 GMT -8
Who were the people that were supposed to confirm Terra? | | V If you want a confirmation, go ask Cornb and Bombay. Thank you for being my instruction book. How weird, so either Terra is lying which is an easy lie to decipher or there is more here than just an otherworld blocker because I know that cabot hasn't been receiving anything with no scum down here and now Terra's people claim the same. Hmm/ |
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 25, 2016 7:56:31 GMT -8
Seriously, why would I make such a stupid and easy to defeat lie like that?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 25, 2016 8:07:04 GMT -8
Seriously, why would I make such a stupid and easy to defeat lie like that? Because scum has to essentially lie seeing as how they can't bestow and town can. I'm a bit conflicted on who to vote for. Coppa claims doctor powers but that's not really super helpful since no real killing blows seem blockable up there anyway so I really see no reason give him an extra night on the chance of him telling the truth like I did with Xam. At base level, I trust Terra more than Coppa this game though both are fairly low on my list and KK will be taking both out anyway, presumably. Mix this with the weird cabot situation and something strange is going on with the bestows. Honestly, I don't see a lot of reason to change my vote. Neither of you have a ton of utility in all honesty, so it just comes down to who I scum read. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 25, 2016 8:35:18 GMT -8
Has everyone posted this day phase yet? I get the feeling some people are missing. Which isn't a huge problem right now, but with the afterlife shrinking it will become a huge problem very soon, especially during the night kill vote.
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Post by karu on Jan 25, 2016 8:50:27 GMT -8
Has everyone posted this day phase yet? I get the feeling some people are missing. Which isn't a huge problem right now, but with the afterlife shrinking it will become a huge problem very soon, especially during the night kill vote. I'm busy either way, but honestly - in addition the Power Mash in the main thread overwhelmes me not only a bit. Which makes me feel bad, one for *Splinter,b ut also for you guys because any possible contributions by me can't be as thoroughly as needed. While the first few days of figuring out what's going on is great, i personally probably lean more in the Heist-direction as far as game structure goes. They made friggin' tables regarding the switcher-situation over there, lol. :-( |
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 8:59:09 GMT -8
Seriously, why would I make such a stupid and easy to defeat lie like that? Because scum has to essentially lie seeing as how they can't bestow and town can. I'm a bit conflicted on who to vote for. Coppa claims doctor powers but that's not really super helpful since no real killing blows seem blockable up there anyway so I really see no reason give him an extra night on the chance of him telling the truth like I did with Xam. At base level, I trust Terra more than Coppa this game though both are fairly low on my list and KK will be taking both out anyway, presumably. Mix this with the weird cabot situation and something strange is going on with the bestows. Honestly, I don't see a lot of reason to change my vote. Neither of you have a ton of utility in all honesty, so it just comes down to who I scum read. I mean, yeah that's exactly true about scum having to lie. I mean, what are the other options? Not answer anything about it and get called out and policy lynched for it? The way I see it (and the way the thread looks like you've been playing it the past few nights), you're going to lynch either me or Terra and have Kitty clean up the other one immediately. Given that we're both likely to die until tomorrow, I'm inclined to think that leaving the Switcher power in play is more detrimental to us than a cop power. Even if the cop power is useless, at least it won't cause as much confusion as the switcher roles did today. I'd take a useless role existing over a role that actively hinders all discussion. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 25, 2016 9:29:23 GMT -8
Because scum has to essentially lie seeing as how they can't bestow and town can. I'm a bit conflicted on who to vote for. Coppa claims doctor powers but that's not really super helpful since no real killing blows seem blockable up there anyway so I really see no reason give him an extra night on the chance of him telling the truth like I did with Xam. At base level, I trust Terra more than Coppa this game though both are fairly low on my list and KK will be taking both out anyway, presumably. Mix this with the weird cabot situation and something strange is going on with the bestows. Honestly, I don't see a lot of reason to change my vote. Neither of you have a ton of utility in all honesty, so it just comes down to who I scum read. I mean, yeah that's exactly true about scum having to lie. I mean, what are the other options? Not answer anything about it and get called out and policy lynched for it? The way I see it (and the way the thread looks like you've been playing it the past few nights), you're going to lynch either me or Terra and have Kitty clean up the other one immediately. Given that we're both likely to die until tomorrow, I'm inclined to think that leaving the Switcher power in play is more detrimental to us than a cop power. Even if the cop power is useless, at least it won't cause as much confusion as the switcher roles did today. I'd take a useless role existing over a role that actively hinders all discussion.What cop power? |
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 9:31:52 GMT -8
I mean, yeah that's exactly true about scum having to lie. I mean, what are the other options? Not answer anything about it and get called out and policy lynched for it? The way I see it (and the way the thread looks like you've been playing it the past few nights), you're going to lynch either me or Terra and have Kitty clean up the other one immediately. Given that we're both likely to die until tomorrow, I'm inclined to think that leaving the Switcher power in play is more detrimental to us than a cop power. Even if the cop power is useless, at least it won't cause as much confusion as the switcher roles did today. I'd take a useless role existing over a role that actively hinders all discussion.What cop power? Meant doc, I blame lack of sleep. |
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 9:38:48 GMT -8
Meant doc, I blame lack of sleep. Point still stands though, I think a distraction is much more detrimental to town than a useless role. Look at discussion for today, it found some lies but nobody has been able to figure out what's going on yet. Even Roy's complained about how hard it was to focus on actually finding scum due to having to relay messages and figure out all this switching bullshit. As far as I'm concerned, anybody who's actively giving out switcher powers is a nuisance we can't afford to keep in the game. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 25, 2016 10:10:22 GMT -8
Making that contradiction post, I think we should banish Terra probably. None of his bestows got confirmed, and he also bestows the power that is probably the most detrimental to town, so do we want him to bestow again tonight so that we can check him? Which would bring MORE switchers into play? I am not feeling that. Also, Sorian, I am still not 100 % sure on you being town, so keep that in mind when picking your bestows. I agree, it's why I asked Coppa what his power is. Seeing as both will die by either a lynch or KK it comes down to who do we want to keep around a little longer on the off-chance they might be Town. I need to go back and reread Terra/Coppa in the main thread but as far as Bestow utility goes I would rather lynch Terra. Has everyone posted this day phase yet? I get the feeling some people are missing. Which isn't a huge problem right now, but with the afterlife shrinking it will become a huge problem very soon, especially during the night kill vote. We haven't heard from Magnum in a while. |
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