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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 6:22:23 GMT -8
Also, has anyone brought up Coppa in awhile? I think I've been forgetting he is in the game.
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 7:16:37 GMT -8
Okay, back in the game (not caught up with main thread, though).
Am I clear to tell you guys my Bestow-power? I would like too (It's not dramatic or anything, though, heh).
And... my bestow power got RNG'd last night. Sorry.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 7:30:38 GMT -8
Okay, back in the game (not caught up with main thread, though). Am I clear to tell you guys my Bestow-power? I would like too (It's not dramatic or anything, though, heh). And... my bestow power got RNG'd last night. Sorry. I think for now, our best bets are still to just reveal our bestow powers at each individual's discretion. If you think it is important to solving an issue that's been brought up or if bringing it up won't paint a target on your back then feel free. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 7:31:15 GMT -8
Also, out of curiosity, when your power gets RNG'd out, does Splinter let you know who received it?
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 18, 2016 7:33:41 GMT -8
Okay, back in the game (not caught up with main thread, though). Am I clear to tell you guys my Bestow-power? I would like too (It's not dramatic or anything, though, heh). And... my bestow power got RNG'd last night. Sorry. I think it is smart to keep the power you bestowed hidden for now. Scum will want to night banish people with the best powers. So better to keep the guessing who that is then offer it on a silver platter. Even if yours sucks, that still will lower the number of possible targets for them. So I would say keep it to yourself. |
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 7:37:47 GMT -8
Also, out of curiosity, when your power gets RNG'd out, does Splinter let you know who received it? Yes. Okay, got it. Reading the main thread... most powers are known either way, so cool. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 7:38:23 GMT -8
Okay, back in the game (not caught up with main thread, though). Am I clear to tell you guys my Bestow-power? I would like too (It's not dramatic or anything, though, heh). And... my bestow power got RNG'd last night. Sorry. I think it is smart to keep the power you bestowed hidden for now. Scum will want to night banish people with the best powers. So better to keep the guessing who that is then offer it on a silver platter. Even if yours sucks, that still will lower the number of possible targets for them. So I would say keep it to yourself. And yet they banished NF which confuses me for a variety of reasons. The biggest of all, why banish NF instead of me when you remove the same power but I'm fairly active where NF was fairly inactive. |
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 7:46:05 GMT -8
I think it is smart to keep the power you bestowed hidden for now. Scum will want to night banish people with the best powers. So better to keep the guessing who that is then offer it on a silver platter. Even if yours sucks, that still will lower the number of possible targets for them. So I would say keep it to yourself. And yet they banished NF which confuses me for a variety of reasons. The biggest of all, why banish NF instead of me when you remove the same power but I'm fairly active where NF was fairly inactive. a.) Who ever decided: Inactive, no real clue of the game. Seems unlikely. b.) You as a point of discussion later down the line? c.) You're scum yourself or something like that. d.) Mysterious game element #37  Also: in regards to kitty - I think the discussion around the name of one's spirit being more likely to be scum/town is null and void. Don't. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 18, 2016 7:56:52 GMT -8
And yet they banished NF which confuses me for a variety of reasons. The biggest of all, why banish NF instead of me when you remove the same power but I'm fairly active where NF was fairly inactive. a.) Who ever decided: Inactive, no real clue of the game. Seems unlikely. b.) You as a point of discussion later down the line? c.) You're scum yourself or something like that. d.) Mysterious game element #37 Also: in regards to kitty - I think the discussion around the name of one's spirit being more likely to be scum/town is null and void. Don't. Unlikely but possible: E) There was no scum in this thread any more so they had no idea what was going on in here. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 7:58:59 GMT -8
a.) Who ever decided: Inactive, no real clue of the game. Seems unlikely. b.) You as a point of discussion later down the line? c.) You're scum yourself or something like that. d.) Mysterious game element #37 Also: in regards to kitty - I think the discussion around the name of one's spirit being more likely to be scum/town is null and void. Don't. Unlikely but possible: E) There was no scum in this thread any more so they had no idea what was going on in here. I wonder how that works. Am I right in my read that Trigger and Kitty can't see what happens here? They just receive a list of players and are asked to kill one of them? Would this thread having no scum result in the same? Just a list being given and choose a name? |
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 8:10:50 GMT -8
Unlikely but possible: E) There was no scum in this thread any more so they had no idea what was going on in here. I wonder how that works. Am I right in my read that Trigger and Kitty can't see what happens here? They just receive a list of players and are asked to kill one of them? Would this thread having no scum result in the same? Just a list being given and choose a name? Wait... I am totally thrown with such a flood of powers/alignments and so on, but didn't Kitty mentioned he let RNG decide? Or am I confusing sth.? |
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 8:13:29 GMT -8
Ah fuck, we're talking about the scum kill obv. #whoops
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 8:17:05 GMT -8
I wonder how that works. Am I right in my read that Trigger and Kitty can't see what happens here? They just receive a list of players and are asked to kill one of them? Would this thread having no scum result in the same? Just a list being given and choose a name? Wait... I am totally thrown with such a flood of powers/alignments and so on, but didn't Kitty mentioned he let RNG decide? Or am I confusing sth.? Well, I'm kind of talking about both. At the end of the day, the current claim is that Kingkitty killed Zatoth last night and scum killed Neverforever. As for Kingkitty, he is claiming to be the same as Trigger so he is a SK that can make educated decisions if he wants to. He says he let RNG decide but he didn't have to, he could have picked whoever he wanted. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 18, 2016 8:37:50 GMT -8
Unlikely but possible: E) There was no scum in this thread any more so they had no idea what was going on in here. I wonder how that works. Am I right in my read that Trigger and Kitty can't see what happens here? They just receive a list of players and are asked to kill one of them? Would this thread having no scum result in the same? Just a list being given and choose a name? I think so, yeah. Scum gets a list of everyone they can choose from for their night banish, but if they don't have anyone here, they will have no one to pass along information and will be blind for what happens in this thread. That is most likely in my eyes. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 8:44:41 GMT -8
Talking about the game going on upstairs is all well and good by the way but don't forget that we have a game going here and we need to banish someone today. I'm of the opinion that the banish target should be someone from myself, Ultron, or Nin. So, unless someone thinks differently about the 4 original volcano victims, we can take it from there.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 18, 2016 9:11:55 GMT -8
Sorian - you seem to be a proponent of Ultron being town. What has he done to seem town to you?
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Post by Kalor on Jan 18, 2016 9:24:46 GMT -8
I'm going to place a vote on Nin right now. They've blended in all game and even when they get called out on it, it never seems to stick.
Vote: nin1000
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 9:27:47 GMT -8
Sorian - you seem to be a proponent of Ultron being town. What has he done to seem town to you? Let's be more clear, I'm a proponent of the odds of Ultron being town higher than Nin being town. I'm not 100% sure we even have scum down here at the moment to lynch so really, I'm just playing a game of knock off the weakest links and see what the next day brings. One thing I do like about Ultron and it's kind of the same as Darryl is they both went hard on explaining why my day 1 claim was bullshit. They were trying to solve the problem there as opposed to just passively believing me or not. Now I do know that no one was scum day 1 so that kind of goes out the window but my fake claim definitely bled into day 2. And the same ideas still applied. At the end of the day, Ultron has seemed like he is trying to solve a mystery and that has extended past day 1.
Really though, here is my issue with this thread. Look at Ultron's posts vs. Nin's:
So, the original ghost crew left is Kalor, Karu, Sawneeks, and Swamped, yes? That group seems definitely solid, so we certainly don't want to vote any of them out. The original vote for Lone_Prodigy that just kind of coasted its way to victory with those four voting basically confirms them in my mind. The way that vote was so nonchalant and without a ton of defense makes it very unlikely any of them are scum. It's not like there was some smoking gun on L_P that scum had to go along with to not make their alignment obvious like there was with Ridli. So a scum could've easily voted for someone else. Blarg being enigmatic means there isn't a ton to use from that flip. Ridli and his interactions pre freak out might give the best source of evidence to determine who among the current islanders to look at, but we need to focus on the vote here. And that leaves it between me, Nin, and Sorian. Obviously Ridli and Sorian set themselves at extraordinarily obvious loggerheads. Could potentially have been a plot to set themselves at a point where whoever flips first exonerates the other. But my suspicion from Sorian was born from the day 1 BS fest, and apparently there weren't any scum that day, so I'll just keep that thought in the back of my head for now. I need to go look at Nin's posts again, because he's as much of a ghost in my mind as I'm sure I was in a lot of yours. We're just so stealthy. Nin's posts aren't particularly enlightening. (I hope that link works, it should be all of Nin's posts in the alive thread.) Starts off with entirely filler, has a few opinions but a lot of just posting for posting's sake. Asks questions but doesn't follow up on the answers. Didn't really comment on the whole Ridli kerfuffle until it was all over (which could just be a schedule thing), finally came in like "well that seems bad for him" gafia.boards.net/post/19147/thread and that was it. Could be not wanting to comment strongly either way on the downfall of his teammate. I suppose now that we know about teams not getting assigned till the second day, might it be prudent to see if anyone vastly changed their opinion of another poster between Day 1 and 2, possibly because they finally found themselves on a team with them? Obviously a lot to sort through. Maybe you guys have better notes with matrices of poster opinions or something.
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ok, first of all sorry everyone , had a rough weekend but will read through the thread right now. Now, like I said, I don't even know that there is scum down here. The conversation that Roy and I had a little earlier is making me lean towards no (though Ultron was not here during the last night phase so he is certainly a possibility now but we'll see what type of kill scum puts through tonight). But I'm looking at the end game here. Any time town has lost is because we lost the people that were actively discussing. If I think both Ultron and Nin are town (really I lean more null for Nin and slight town for Ultron) then Nin is the no-brainer vote. It's nothing against Nin at all but even in the living thread, he has been very distant and flaky when it comes to checking back in like he says he will.
Really, all I'm seeing against Ultron is that Blarg swung a vote away from him and towards me. Say what you will about my gambit but I guessed and stayed just vague enough that the things I was saying made some sense. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that scum thought I knew more than I was letting on or was otherwise important in some way. I mean, even take a look back at Ridli's posts from when he first got down here. He was theorizing that I was a neutral and maybe the volcano itself, that might have been a discussion piece in the scum thread. I don't think Blarg was protecting Ultron, I think Blarg was using the general distrust of me to get me killed to see what would happen, if anything.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 10:57:17 GMT -8
Squidy's question confuses me. Why would there be an issue with Ridli and Blarg being down here at the same time?
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 18, 2016 11:09:22 GMT -8
I'm going to place a vote on Nin right now. They've blended in all game and even when they get called out on it, it never seems to stick. Vote: nin1000What is there to stick thought? Mind me asking Kalor? |
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Post by karu on Jan 18, 2016 11:10:26 GMT -8
Squidy's question confuses me. Why would there be an issue with Ridli and Blarg being down here at the same time? Just double-checked lol, but yeah, they were in the The Afterlife together. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 18, 2016 11:15:24 GMT -8
I will be frank though. Me being almost non existing in this game is a bummer. I can understand every single vote that was put on me in the living thread aswell in this, since I do not even participate. The thing is, I so not even know where to begin since I don't have any clue.
Things I did understand though.
Since trigger was a Ghostbuster, he killed me aswell with him being voted out.
Roy is a medium who is in both chats.
Being voted out in the living island does not mean that someone is dead dead. By being voted out in this thread though. This is the end.
Something important I missed?
Sorian halp.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 11:16:03 GMT -8
I'm going to place a vote on Nin right now. They've blended in all game and even when they get called out on it, it never seems to stick. Vote: nin1000What is there to stick thought? Mind me asking Kalor? People keep calling you on inactivity, you come in with a line of how you are going to catch up and will post thoughts, thoughts do not get posted, repeat cycle.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 11:18:44 GMT -8
I will be frank though. Me being almost non existing in this game is a bummer. I can understand every single vote that was put on me in the living thread aswell in this, since I do not even participate. The thing is, I so not even know where to begin since I don't have any clue. Things I did understand though. Since trigger was a Ghostbuster, he killed me aswell with him being voted out. Roy is a medium who is in both chats. Being voted out in the living island does not mean that someone is dead dead. By being voted out in this thread though. This is the end. Something important I missed? Sorian halp. I mean, that's the gist of it, people up on the island (except for Trigger and now KK) were all ordinaries (I guess except Roy now too but he started ordinary just like scum did) and once they get moved down here, their PR is revealed. Your "power" is to bestow gifts to the islanders up above so that they have one-shot abilities like watching, tracking, voyeur, doc, cop, etc.
Speaking of, did you bestow your powers out last night or did they also get RNG'd out?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 11:31:22 GMT -8
Damn, Mazre is still in the game too.
Lol, such a big game, I just can't keep track.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 11:33:04 GMT -8
a.) Who ever decided: Inactive, no real clue of the game. Seems unlikely. b.) You as a point of discussion later down the line? c.) You're scum yourself or something like that. d.) Mysterious game element #37 Also: in regards to kitty - I think the discussion around the name of one's spirit being more likely to be scum/town is null and void. Don't. Unlikely but possible: E) There was no scum in this thread any more so they had no idea what was going on in here. I had a new thought. What if the "dark ritual" up above that killed Kawl was scum-controlled but, in exchange, their banish down here was subject to RNG? I mean, it's all WIFOM anyway but it never hurts to make sure there is a full list of possibilities. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 18, 2016 12:21:11 GMT -8
Damn, Mazre is still in the game too. Lol, such a big game, I just can't keep track. Those are my thoughts  |
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Post by Kalor on Jan 18, 2016 12:27:19 GMT -8
I'm going to place a vote on Nin right now. They've blended in all game and even when they get called out on it, it never seems to stick. Vote: nin1000What is there to stick thought? Mind me asking Kalor? I should have worded it differently but it was more about how whenever someone brought you up you might be the focus for a few posts then fade back into the background again. The way you've played this game has seemed like scum trying to blend in,acting noncommittal but your post about not knowing where to begin could play into why you came across like this. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 18, 2016 12:32:57 GMT -8
Talking about the game going on upstairs is all well and good by the way but don't forget that we have a game going here and we need to banish someone today. I'm of the opinion that the banish target should be someone from myself, Ultron, or Nin. So, unless someone thinks differently about the 4 original volcano victims, we can take it from there. Magnum also counts as being in the original group despite being a replacement. Launch died at first with the rest of us. :p |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 12:37:31 GMT -8
Yes, you're right, 5 sorry. I saw this post: So, the original ghost crew left is Kalor, Karu, Sawneeks, and Swamped, yes? That group seems definitely solid, so we certainly don't want to vote any of them out. The original vote for Lone_Prodigy that just kind of coasted its way to victory with those four voting basically confirms them in my mind. The way that vote was so nonchalant and without a ton of defense makes it very unlikely any of them are scum. It's not like there was some smoking gun on L_P that scum had to go along with to not make their alignment obvious like there was with Ridli. So a scum could've easily voted for someone else. Blarg being enigmatic means there isn't a ton to use from that flip. Ridli and his interactions pre freak out might give the best source of evidence to determine who among the current islanders to look at, but we need to focus on the vote here. And that leaves it between me, Nin, and Sorian. Obviously Ridli and Sorian set themselves at extraordinarily obvious loggerheads. Could potentially have been a plot to set themselves at a point where whoever flips first exonerates the other. But my suspicion from Sorian was born from the day 1 BS fest, and apparently there weren't any scum that day, so I'll just keep that thought in the back of my head for now. I need to go look at Nin's posts again, because he's as much of a ghost in my mind as I'm sure I was in a lot of yours. We're just so stealthy. And have just been running with it. Sorry Magnum. My point though is that I think the original ghost crew is cleared out of scum. |
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