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Post by Swamped on Jan 18, 2016 13:12:10 GMT -8
Regarding Ridli and Blarg having the same PM, I don't think that's the work of a forger as Terra seems to imply. This game is bastard enough as is, I don't think there would be the element of PM forging as well. Besides, Splinter has already stated that all the PMs contain the truth.
There were simply two framers, probably to counter the detection bestows. We know Zipped was one of them, and there's likely another. I think there are at least two people with the same power/potential.
The other idea is that maybe there are two scum teams after all, and their roles mirror each other. Actually, I'm curious to check what Ridli thought of Blarg during the afterlife. Although...I can't remember if they were alive together or not lol. I don't think so. Ah well.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 18, 2016 13:14:06 GMT -8
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Post by Swamped on Jan 18, 2016 13:15:33 GMT -8
Ty4on hasn't checked in yet, right? He hasn't confirmed that he received the same power as he did the previous day.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 18, 2016 13:16:14 GMT -8
Alright, don't take this the wrong way Nin, because this will make me sound a bit like a dick, but :
We are in a weird situation where we need to lynch someone, but there is a decent chance there is no scum to lynch. Isn't lynching a player that seems to be overwhelmed with the game and thus doesn't contribute much a pretty decent choice?
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 18, 2016 13:16:56 GMT -8
My bad on discounting Magnum in that group, the crossing out of names in the OP for both replaced players and banished players tripped me up. (On a relook it does make sense.)
Magnum/Zatoth didn't vote for L_P on that first banish which I think clears all the others, but that was probably just a result of Zatoths inactivity than anything malicious. Continuing to focus on myself, Nin, and Sorian for this banish probably makes the most sense.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 13:16:56 GMT -8
Splinter got my vote right \o/  |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 13:18:22 GMT -8
My bad on discounting Magnum in that group, the crossing out of names in the OP for both replaced players and banished players tripped me up. (On a relook it does make sense.) Magnum/Zatoth didn't vote for L_P on that first banish which I think clears all the others, but that was probably just a result of Zatoths inactivity than anything malicious. Continuing to focus on myself, Nin, and Sorian for this banish probably makes the most sense. Magnum used to be Launchpad and Zatoth used to be Hyperactivity. Just as an fyi. |
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 18, 2016 13:18:51 GMT -8
Replace Zatoth with Launch in my previous post. I think it all still works. Mobile makes me not want to confirm facts in my mind.
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Post by Kalor on Jan 18, 2016 13:51:38 GMT -8
Nin, who were your powers bestowed to last night?
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 18, 2016 15:38:17 GMT -8
Suppose I should note now that I can bestow a voyeur power, which is the one where they'd target someone and then would find out any commands that were performed on the target, but not who did it. Given the number of powers flying around they'll probably get results, but I'm not sure how terribly useful those results would be. I suppose it'd be best for catching stuff like framers and switchers if the people I gave stuff too cooperated with an investigative role. And if someone's getting blocked or having another negative action performed on them can at least get an idea on their alignment. So I guess there are ways it could help so I probably won't garbage bin it.
Not sure who I'll send it to yet, but will probably be keeping that decision to myself at least until the next day. Unless anyone has some amazing strategery involving it.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 15:41:29 GMT -8
Suppose I should note now that I can bestow a voyeur power, which is the one where they'd target someone and then would find out any commands that were performed on the target, but not who did it. Given the number of powers flying around they'll probably get results, but I'm not sure how terribly useful those results would be. I suppose it'd be best for catching stuff like framers and switchers if the people I gave stuff too cooperated with an investigative role. And if someone's getting blocked or having another negative action performed on them can at least get an idea on their alignment. So I guess there are ways it could help so I probably won't garbage bin it. Not sure who I'll send it to yet, but will probably be keeping that decision to myself at least until the next day. Unless anyone has some amazing strategery involving it. That would be the second voyeur giver then, Darryl has received and used that power already. (Or at least claimed that he did and no one down here refuted him). |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 18, 2016 16:39:38 GMT -8
"Remember: dead thread needs to come up with a target for the serial killer.
Unless we just want him to target whoever we lynch today, at least we'd get immediate feedback on their flip if we did that."
Oh, this is a thing? Roy, can you tell them that the SK should NOT kill Kalor, Karu, Magnum, Sawneeks, or Swamped. The rest of us are fair game including myself.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 18, 2016 20:05:22 GMT -8
Oh, it was Sawneeks' bday yesterday!
Belated Happy Birthday!!!
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 19, 2016 7:01:09 GMT -8
I'm going to put Nin up to 4. Seems like a pretty clear choice here for me between him and Sorian. Could very easily be an inactive town, but we gotta banish someone and there isn't a better candidate.
Vote: Nin1000
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Post by karu on Jan 19, 2016 7:36:22 GMT -8
I mean, tonight sure is a boring Vote.
Sorian is the most interesting Vote, but yeah no.
Nin doesn't participate.
I would vote for Ultron as I have and would the past few days, but to be fair maybe just for a lack of a better alternative - since he's here, i'll give him that.
Would be Okay with a Nin-Vote.
One question, though: I mean the 22%-rule makes sense and it comes down to me feeling uneasy about any definitive statement without prove - what do we do, if there's scum under the currently assumed Town-people? Theoretically speaking?
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Post by karu on Jan 19, 2016 7:37:48 GMT -8
To clarify... a Sorian-Vote would be interesting in itself considering the Player and his/your activity in comparison to the other Players on the table. ;-)
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 7:56:06 GMT -8
I mean, tonight sure is a boring Vote. Sorian is the most interesting Vote, but yeah no. Nin doesn't participate. I would vote for Ultron as I have and would the past few days, but to be fair maybe just for a lack of a better alternative - since he's here, i'll give him that. Would be Okay with a Nin-Vote. One question, though: I mean the 22%-rule makes sense and it comes down to me feeling uneasy about any definitive statement without prove - what do we do, if there's scum under the currently assumed Town-people? Theoretically speaking? Re-think things when we get closer to end game is the real answer unfortunately. None of you 5 have been scummy in the least either so that's where the confidence comes in ignoring the math for a moment. By general logic, the SK is going to betray us at some point here and there so he or she will probably pick a couple of you off between here and the end game as well. |
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Post by Swamped on Jan 19, 2016 8:00:11 GMT -8
I do agree, we could definitely vote out Sorian at some point. We certainly have enough mislynches. However it has to be at a point when every player has interacted substantially with him, or else we won't get much information from his lynch. I do think Sorian is town however, since he went hard against Ridli in the afterlife. So from my perspective, this sort of lynch would be purely for information.
I guess i can see why everyone is voting for nin (thanks for your explanation in particular Sorian). However, we dragged Ultron down for a reason, and even though he has done good posts and participation here, i believe we need to see this through. My vote for him stays.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 8:07:16 GMT -8
I do agree, we could definitely vote out Sorian at some point. We certainly have enough mislynches. However it has to be at a point when every player has interacted substantially with him, or else we won't get much information from his lynch. I do think Sorian is town however, since he went hard against Ridli in the afterlife. So from my perspective, this sort of lynch would be purely for information. I guess i can see why everyone is voting for nin (thanks for your explanation in particular Sorian). However, we dragged Ultron down for a reason, and even though he has done good posts and participation here, i believe we need to see this through. My vote for him stays. To be fair, not all of us had the same reason  I just want to clean them up a bit upstairs. They have too many inactives up there and they are doing good work scum hunting but at the end of the day Dusk, Mazre, and before Nin and Ultron were just coasting through on very little and with a game this big, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some scum just hiding in the background so I wanted to clean those up a bit. That being said, I'm not just sitting here playing clean up crew and hoping they deliver the goods, I do honestly believe that Ultron has a better shot of being town than Nin but that was the jist of my last big post so no reason to beat that dead horse again.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 19, 2016 8:49:53 GMT -8
I do agree, we could definitely vote out Sorian at some point. We certainly have enough mislynches. However it has to be at a point when every player has interacted substantially with him, or else we won't get much information from his lynch. I do think Sorian is town however, since he went hard against Ridli in the afterlife. So from my perspective, this sort of lynch would be purely for information. I guess i can see why everyone is voting for nin (thanks for your explanation in particular Sorian). However, we dragged Ultron down for a reason, and even though he has done good posts and participation here, i believe we need to see this through. My vote for him stays. What do you guys think about the idea of asking Kitty to vacuum up Ultron? Would also be a good test to see if kitty is willing to take commands. The other potential targets are either Sorian, which I don't want to see sucked up yet (That sounds.....dirty), and New arrival #48, which kinda depends on who that actually is. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 8:55:39 GMT -8
I do agree, we could definitely vote out Sorian at some point. We certainly have enough mislynches. However it has to be at a point when every player has interacted substantially with him, or else we won't get much information from his lynch. I do think Sorian is town however, since he went hard against Ridli in the afterlife. So from my perspective, this sort of lynch would be purely for information. I guess i can see why everyone is voting for nin (thanks for your explanation in particular Sorian). However, we dragged Ultron down for a reason, and even though he has done good posts and participation here, i believe we need to see this through. My vote for him stays. What do you guys think about the idea of asking Kitty to vacuum up Ultron? Would also be a good test to see if kitty is willing to take commands. The other potential targets are either Sorian, which I don't want to see sucked up yet (That sounds.....dirty), and New arrival #48, which kinda depends on who that actually is. For completely pragmatic reasons, I think anyone from myself, the still remaining ghost from Ultron/Nin, or the new arrival would be fine for KK to take in terms of painting a better picture for others.
For actual opinions based on my own reads and strict knowledge that I am town, I would prefer the kill priority to be Nin > New Arrival (because I'm guessing it'll be Squidy or Dusk) > Ultron > Sorian. If the new arrival wasn't Squidy or Dusk then I'd reconsider who is more suss between said person and Ultron but I'm not expecting some huge swing vote to take place.
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 19, 2016 9:14:24 GMT -8
I mean yes, I'd rather you didn't tell Kitty to banish me.
In general banishing people the Island actually voted down here gives them more info than killing someone that this thread killed. Seeing my flip won't tell much of anything, since 1) town, 2) not interacting a ton is the reason I'm down here in the first place, and 3) no up there voted for me. Seeing the flip of whoever ends up getting lynched would be some immediate feedback on the voting process up there.
I am trying to do a better job here. I'm much better at processing an 8 person game than a 30 person one.
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 19, 2016 9:20:22 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today  Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. Roy, is there a reason you haven't told the other thread this (unless I missed it)? Seems like it would be beneficial for people using day 9 activity as evidence. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 9:43:18 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. Roy, is there a reason you haven't told the other thread this (unless I missed it)? Seems like it would be beneficial for people using day 9 activity as evidence. Would like to know this as well. I thought he had but I gave it a quick once over and I think you're right. No mention of it in the main thread. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 19, 2016 10:03:06 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. Roy, is there a reason you haven't told the other thread this (unless I missed it)? Seems like it would be beneficial for people using day 9 activity as evidence. Woops, yeah, I honestly forgot to post that at the start of the day in the main thread, it was around midnight and I was on mobile trying to keep track of two threads  Will do it now. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 10:11:22 GMT -8
They're going to have a fit.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 10:12:24 GMT -8
Also, hmmm, we didn't learn this in the dead thread, you learned this from Splinter. That's an important distinction.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 19, 2016 10:18:13 GMT -8
Also, hmmm, we didn't learn this in the dead thread, you learned this from Splinter. That's an important distinction. Eh, I think it will not really matter that much. I even think saying it this way more people would believe it compared to me just saying "yo, i got this message from splinter". |
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 19, 2016 10:46:38 GMT -8
Lol, Roy.  |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 10:52:59 GMT -8
Kingkitty priority kill order from me:
Nin > Xam/Dusk/Squidy > Ultron > Sorian
Just updating that for this new turn of events lol
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I just want to clean them up a bit upstairs. They have too many inactives up there and they are doing good work scum hunting but at the end of the day Dusk, Mazre, and before Nin and Ultron were just coasting through on very little and with a game this big, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some scum just hiding in the background so I wanted to clean those up a bit. That being said, I'm not just sitting here playing clean up crew and hoping they deliver the goods, I do honestly believe that Ultron has a better shot of being town than Nin but that was the jist of my last big post so no reason to beat that dead horse again. 
Will do it now.