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Gonna get what I know about the three PersonaGAF members presumably on the villager's side out of the way right now, as well as my power role. Firstly, this is the role PM I got from Palmer:
You are a Werewolf-aligned Mayor.
Your vote counts double if you want it to, by using the command Doublevote: <target>. You can use this an unlimited number of times. You are also able to vote as normal if you choose.
So, we have five members from PersonaGAF in this game. On our side we have myself and Lollipop Dave. On the other side we have Style, FluxWaveZ, and StarSketch. This gives us an advantage and a disadvantage because we know each other pretty well. Some of us extremely so, as we talk on almost a daily basis and have so for the past three years. I'm gonna give my opinion of the three town aligned folks.
Flux I think is the most intelligent and perceptive of the three. If any of the three are going to notice any fallacies in my posting, it'll be him. Becaue of this, I think he'll be the most dangerous of the three.
Style comes into the PersonaGAF IRC every day. He's probably the least perceptive of the three, and most likely to be swayed if we convince him of something early on. He's also the least likely to pick up on any fallacies that I may or may not post. That being said, because he comes into the IRC every day, he's the most familiar of my personality. Which means he's also the most likely to pick up on any out of character moments.
Star comes into the PersonaGAF IRC as well, although not as often as Style does. She's pretty reserved when she's in there, but she seems to be aware of my personality to some degree. I know the least about her myself.
Personally, I'd advise against a night kill on Night Start against any of these three. I think it might draw suspicion to us PersonaGAF members if we do so. But I guess we'll see what you all think.
Last Edit: Nov 16, 2015 7:42:48 GMT -8 by Sophia: Cut out the irrelevant bit of my role.
Thanks for the info, Sophia. Welcome to you and dave!
I'll start with a little info about myself, and I'll assume you haven't read previous games I've been in. I've known of Mafia for years but my first proper game was GAFia (Archer), and I've played.... four games since. I've been Town everytime, and people think I'm a solid player. For some reason, they think this will translate to being a good mafia. I'm not so sure.
I've not played with you both yet (obviously), and I know Makai but I've not played with him. I'll paste my role PM:
You are a Werewolf-aligned Voyeur.
So I see your roles, and I think Sophia and I could claim as Town without any real suspicion. Dave could just be better off claiming ordinary if the pressure is on him, but I obviously recommend trying to hold that off as close to end game as possible, 2 kills the following night towards the end will be invaluable.
My role is pretty rubbish, it will let us know of a specific PR existing, but it won't tell me who. If I use it on Darryl for instance, and he's doctored, I'll be alerted that he was protected that night. All I can really do is confirm what PRs are on the Town/Neutral side, so it's pretty mild.
Good thing is I can see credibly claiming as Town with it, Mafia forums say the role can be both Town/Scum aligned, but its power is so weak, and its use is only really good for confirming role claims (on the chance I hit a doctor and he says the right target that night)
OK, I'll now move on to how I'll play. Which is I'm going to stick close to how I play as Town, because it would appear suspicious if I was different, and I can't think of another way of playing because I'm a simple man. What does that mean? I'll throw my vote around throughout the day, I'll go on the aggressive with questioning and if something remotely stinky/fishy appears on someone, I'll press them hard. I'll say up front I'd consider a bus on you fellow wolfies if the evidence is solid, and I apologise in advance. If it's less solid, I'll try to throw alternative arguments out to prolong your lives! I can only expect the same from you guys, so if I'm in a situation where bussing me early makes sense and wins you trust with Town, then I'll understand!
Right, whew. Town Targets on N1. Sophia pointed out her PersonaGAF comrades, I can point out players I've played with before, so I'll go through the player list:
08 [-] Darryl Darryl is super aggressive, you guys might get a little upset by his bluntness, but it's his mafia persona. He's also a damn good player, town or scum. I would ideally like to kill him as soon as possible, but I think he could be a valid protection target on N1. I'm considering voyeuring his ass. There's a sentence I never thought I'd say.
13 [m] Septimus Prime Played with Septimus in Archer. He was an ordinary townie, but was consistently under massive pressure throughout the game due to inactivity, little aggression and lots, lots, lots of slip ups with regards to rules, mechanics, roles claimed. Probably better to keep him alive and see if he's still a bit wobbly, he could be a lynch target.
14 [m] QuantumBro He was scum in Archer, but mostly inactive until he had to start playing. Made a gambit that made less and less sense as time went on, he very much sits in the background. He'd be a nice N1 kill because there'd be little to deduce from it. Targetting one of the well known players may sway opinion to believe there are experienced players in the scum team (not surprising considering the odds, but still)
15 [m] Timeaisis Time's played from the first season game, and he was really good there. In the games since, I don't think he's quite reached that level. He's still worthy of consideration for a kill though, he can give out solid analysis. Activity level is on the lower side.
16 [m] GreatLord Tiger Played in Archer, but was replaced by Darryl. He was cop, Darryl came in and beasted it as cop. I hate Darryl, because he isnt on my team. We're dead.
17 [m] CornBurrito CB is super active, I've seen him as town in DR and played with him as scum in Election. He was lucky to get out of election with a win, because his trust hinged on a pretty weak claim which only convinced me due to another player's faulty claim. Keeping him alive is probably best for now, because while active, he does constantly question himself and doesn't have an ironclad will, so that could be taken advantage of.
18 [m] El Topo El Topo was in Archer and Election. German mathematician, that should tell you about everything you need to know ;) Basically he's been neutral Killer and Townie in these games, but both times his playstyle leads him to come off scummy and untrustworthy, I would advise aiming to lynch Topo as opposed to killing him.
21 [m] batsnacks batsnacks joined GAFia and played NX, he died on D1 in among the claim madness, but he still managed to achieve a super high post rate. His downfall was his nonchalance and mild arrogance, which a lot of players didn't like and ended up lynching the jailor, despite my best efforts to try to get everyone to reconsider. Killing him N1 would be harsh, but he's played loads of forum mafia on other communities and my impression of his brief tenure is he's a damn good player, so we may have to consider him. I feel slightly bad if he died straight off, but he'll be on the replacement list anyway if he dies early.
These players I know from reading past games, but I haven't played with them. Brief analysis:
09 [m] RobotNinjaHornets - Was scum in Game 1, and town in Star Wars, he seems solid and more like CB with a bit of indecisiveness that could be taken advantage of. 10 [m] ultron87 - Super good vigilante, pretty good town player overall. He doesn't post often but he's good at reading others and I'd maybe consider him an early kill. 19 [m] Terrabyte20xx - Don't know too much about Terra, except he did not play well as scum in GAFia, as town he's a bit more convincing but he scan still manage to bring about lots of suspicion. Currently suggest as a lynch target. 11 [m] MattyG - MattyG played Game 1 and ran Star Wars. I don't know much about him to be honest, he could be the guy who claimed porn star in Game 1, which was an incredible claim (Palmer correct me here!) but yeah, not much to say.
Lastly, Sophia seems cool with killing new players straight off, but it's seen by the majority of the community as a kind of bad thing. I say the majority, I don't agree. Role generation doesn't discriminate between experience, so why should we?
The advantage here is Sophia and Dave should be safe on D1 granted you don't do anything truly suspicious. So keep that in mind!
I also think there's a chance I could be investigated early, because I'm an active player who once confirmed usually is seen as an asset to town. You know, except now.
That was a lot longer than I planned. Sorry in advance, but not actually sorry.
What's the edit rules in the scum chat, Palmer. Are we allowed to edit here?
My bad, my edit was to remove the stuff that was duplicated in Sophia's Quote (though it looks like I chopped off my role description by mistake aswell). I'll refrain from editing any further and put what I removed here.
You are a Werewolf-aligned Wolf Cub.
Werewolves will get two Faction kills the night after you die. Werewolf team can submit two separate kill targets that night, following the normal rules
Last Edit: Nov 16, 2015 6:03:25 GMT -8 by lollipopdave: removing whole PM from quote
I work Mon-Fri but GAFia isn't blocked at work. NeoGAF is a blocked now and then, it's inconsistent. I can access during lunch hours between 12pm and 2pm though.
Heads up, I'm also drunk on a regular cycle. I post during these points, so apologies in advance.
I also play badminton on wednesdays, which did affect me being available for some voting deadlines, and the new countdown is 5pm, which also will affect me if it's a wednesday because I walk to my old house, and don't get into a PC until around 5.30pm
Post by lollipopdave on Nov 16, 2015 3:24:48 GMT -8
Ha, it's mostly because I have no choice till I buy a motobike.
If we're breaking it down, I wake up at 5am, I'm on public transport from 5:30am - 8am, my lunch is generally around 2pm-3pm, but neither gaf and gafia are blocked so I always have a tab open during the whole work day. I finish at 5pm and I'm back on the public transport home from 5:30pm - 8pm. I shower around 8pm-9pm which is the only time I don't have my phone on hand and won't be able to check the forums.
Weekends I tend to sleep in (mostly because of the lack I get during the weekdays) but I'm usually awake by 9am-10am. I tend to go to the pub most Saturday or Friday nights so I might become a little incomprehensible.
I'm in US, Eastern Standard Time. I should be active every day during the evening until midnight. And yeah, I agree about being able to claim town easily. And unless I'm forced to, it's probably a good idea. What I've seen suggest double voter isn't a terribly great town power, so some people might get suspicious if I claim it regardless of alignment.
Also, I was actually advocating the opposite: That is, leaving the new people alone. Let them see if they lynch themselves. Also, seems like targeting Daryl would be a poor choice from your post (probably protected) and targeting batsnacks would just be mean. Hmm...
What I'm most curious to see is how Style acts on that note. He's the kind of person who I think would make a faux pas and draw attention to himself. Could be an easy lynch if he doesn't catch on to any of us being mafia.
Of course, he has surprised me before, so I could be completely off about this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯