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Post by natiko on May 3, 2017 21:23:18 GMT -8
For sure, but if the info isn't going to get me an extra day then better off holding it in the off chance you have a future need for it. Not much incentive for me to give out info to town if it won't keep me alive lol We can see what the thoughts are for checking tonight and I'll pick a backup to tunnel in case the result isn't useful.
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Post by Sorian on May 3, 2017 21:44:07 GMT -8
To be fair, I still expect claiming to be an alignment cop is the way to go which means I'll still have the role names themselves.
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Post by natiko on May 4, 2017 5:19:29 GMT -8
That's also true. I guess we'll just wait and see then.
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Post by Sorian on May 4, 2017 21:06:55 GMT -8
Ok, was busier today than I thought I'd be. Finally got around to re-reading Mazre and just parts of the thread in general and I feel that was an absolute waste of time, unfortunately. Aside from his fake claim, I didn't see anything anywhere that seemed like he was trying to draw a night action or signal to his team. There was the instance where he called me a serial killer and then went afk for a couple hours which is all well and good and I'm sure someone might bring that up tomorrow as maybe signaling but meh. Otherwise, this post is the only one that kind of reads like there could be coded info but I think I'm just looking at smoke. I was thinking about it more and it is clear he was never recruited. Scum would for sure have fake claims and Mazre clearly did not have access to them. He went on a limb and failed. So I don't think there is much new to be gained. From scum perspective, this was either town vs. town or R_F is scum and they thought they needed to save him. It's a decent idea because Mazre was scared to vote him. He didn't actually do it until I called him out on it. So we could just narrow our search to the Mazre voters but that's still 10 people. As an aside, I find it weird that Flush was already wanting to lynch Mazre and then Mazre happens to call out his role. Taking it a step further, maybe Mazre was given fake claims, same ones as scum in fact, and scum!Flush who was already trying to drive Mazre down as a mislynch saw the claim, thought Mazre was a neutral given the same fake claims list, and Flush decided to counter and push things more. All this wild speculation is solved if Flush does just die from poison but I guess we'll see. Anyway, the usual suspect comes out looking the worst on Mazre, Time is there lynching for info at a middling point where the scale could have tipped in either direction, he takes no real stance. Faddy, AB, and Fat4all all also vote at just the right time imo (left Zipped out since we know his alignment). So it's up to you. I think Time is for sure scum and a check there at least tells us if we are safe lynching him or if he is Robin and we have to help keep him alive one more day. The other 3 all have varying levels of possible. I still don't think Faddy is scum and he seemed to get onto the Mazre vote the most naturally out of everyone so he'd probably be my last pick. AB and Fat got on the vote sloppily and have been sketchy the whole way through. AB for how he's handled his claim and Fat for just general play. There's pros and cons for making up a town cop story and choosing Time or choosing someone else. You could easily sell that you investigated elsewhere because you were cocky and just so sure that Time was scum that you didn't want to waste a night investigating the obvious. On the flip side, an inexperienced cop would have just checked his biggest scum read and with the crowd of inexperienced players they would expect the same from you. Your tunnel will also look a lot more cop like if you suddenly drop Time in favor of someone else so hardcore. All depends on how you want to sell it if you are backed into a corner and need to start claiming. I'm definitely down to the 3 of Time, AB, or Fat though.
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Post by Sorian on May 4, 2017 21:08:27 GMT -8
As an aside, I almost want to hero shot on Time and go all guts, all glory but that's probably irresponsible while you are still alive.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 5:32:52 GMT -8
Well the one thing that works in my favor is I can give my full reasoning for scum reading Time if I claim which will make my case stronger. Though I still can't mention your alignment but if RF does die it makes it even better odds.
I could also take the easy route and just check Time...hmm.
As far as shooting tonight that's up to you. Short of me finding exactly Robin tonight, I'll likely either be lynched tomorrow or roleblocked/night killed thereafter.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 5:44:50 GMT -8
Well the one thing that works in my favor is I can give my full reasoning for scum reading Time if I claim which will make my case stronger. Though I still can't mention your alignment but if RF does die it makes it even better odds. I could also take the easy route and just check Time...hmm. As far as shooting tonight that's up to you. Short of me finding exactly Robin tonight, I'll likely either be lynched tomorrow or roleblocked/night killed thereafter. Yeah but even one day is helpful since it narrows the fireld by 4 (or more) with your check, the lynch, and tonight and tomorrow nights kills. Robin could always die somewhere in there but I'm not exactly holding my breath.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 6:03:08 GMT -8
That's a good point as well. Honestly I'm not sure who to go with here. AB's claims don't really make a ton of sense as a scum move, but the rest of his play is dodgy. Without knowing how the poison situation pans out going for Fat also doesn't exactly feel great. Time seems like such an easy target though when there's a decent amount of evidence against him as is.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 6:20:42 GMT -8
Like I said, Time is just straight a check to make sure he isn't Robin, at this stage we do need a scum death just to make sure the game runs longer and Time is good for that but I'd much rather shoot Robin then last until final 5. AB's claim isn't terrible for scum to make because it excuses him still living. "Scum won't kill me if they think my flip will clear Sorian" or something along those lines is an easy narrative to imagine. True that Fat is kind of reliant on how this poison storyline fleshed out, I'm just so stuck on the poison being bullshit.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 6:39:00 GMT -8
I wonder what scum's play will be. If RF is scum and lied about all of that I wonder if they'll have another scum claim doctor or hope to just push everyone towards me and try to gloss over that.
I could check fat in the idea that if Royal lives and fat checks scum then both would be likely viewed as scum and it would take a lot of heat off me. If it comes back town or Robin I can claim I checked Royal or Time instead and just lie through my teeth.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 7:20:14 GMT -8
I don't think they drag someone else down if R_F was lying. R_F probably just says he was cured and then if he gets lynched whatever but he'll try to deflect anyway. The real question is still why bother with all this in the first place but maybe they thought he was screwed for some reason. Not everything can be optimal play.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 7:38:59 GMT -8
Maybe scum didn't expect such skepticism regarding the poison claim? Man, this feels like such a shot in the dark. Maybe I should just make the safe play and check Time. Or I can check AB or acorn or something and lie if I hit town/Robin.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 7:46:59 GMT -8
What about Bronx-Man?
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 10:42:21 GMT -8
Man, I completely forgot about Bronx. He has a good chance of being scum too considering he didn't mind riding that inactivity train too.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 10:44:58 GMT -8
It is a shot in the dark at the end of the day. Nothing wrong with taking the safe check on Time. As long as we don't check someone that is getting night killed, it's fine. The more people alive that we know the alignment of, the better chance I have of hitting when I finally shoot.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 10:52:54 GMT -8
I'll check Bronx since him and Time feel like the best chances at finding scum and I have a decent argument to paint Time as scum regardless of a check.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 10:54:41 GMT -8
GOSSIP: Bronx-Man
Let's find out if this scumtastic Mick/Bronx hybrid really is scum.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 10:58:20 GMT -8
Come on afk Robin. Also, I won't be doing an action fran don't worry about me.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 11:05:26 GMT -8
How funny is it going to be if scum decided to kill you and I die tonight anyways lol
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 11:13:34 GMT -8
I don't think I've drawn a kill yet. Maybe but there should be better kills. Nudull if he isn't scum for example.
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 11:18:24 GMT -8
I'm not saying it's the most likely situation, but it would give me a chuckle. It's honestly best if I can die naturally for our chances. I wonder if I die before you shoot Robin if that's still a win for me. I would assume so.
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Post by franconp on May 5, 2017 11:35:47 GMT -8
GOSSIP: Bronx-Man Let's find out if this scumtastic Mick/Bronx hybrid really is scum. Action Received. And yes. I would consider it a win for you too.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 12:51:58 GMT -8
Yeah we're a neutral team so both would win. I assume we also win if I shoot Robin on the same night someone shoots me
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Post by natiko on May 5, 2017 13:09:21 GMT -8
I assumed so but the way the backup win con clearly doesn't stack so I figured I would clarify. Well if today goes poorly I guess the good news is I'll get to say I was lynched for the first time. That's fun.
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Post by Sorian on May 5, 2017 16:27:08 GMT -8
*heavy sigh*
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Post by yn on May 5, 2017 21:45:32 GMT -8
poor beanie ; __ ;
left all alone
ALL ALONE
except for all of us who's watching in the dark :D
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Post by Sophia on May 6, 2017 7:57:59 GMT -8
except for all of us who's watching in the dark :D *devious cackle*
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Post by Ourobolus on May 8, 2017 9:03:58 GMT -8
Sorian, BOLD your next post if you can read this
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Post by Sorian on May 8, 2017 14:14:28 GMT -8
Lowkey, this is probably up there with most claims near a day end.
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Post by Sorian on May 8, 2017 15:12:25 GMT -8
*heavy sigh*
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