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Post by yn on Mar 5, 2017 16:37:32 GMT -8
i am now joining crimi
hello desk, meet my face
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Post by Sophia on Mar 5, 2017 16:38:19 GMT -8
Broooonx what are you doing.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 5, 2017 16:47:15 GMT -8
Someone might want to check up on him... This really isn't the answer. : \
At the very least, he should have waited until he was on the chopping block...
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Post by natiko on Mar 5, 2017 17:33:19 GMT -8
I wonder if Bronx is telling the truth. Would at least be nice to be vindicated in thinking he wasn't scum this time.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 5, 2017 17:39:40 GMT -8
Tonight will be interesting
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Post by Sophia on Mar 5, 2017 18:11:10 GMT -8
Interesting. Does Bronx have a plan?
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 5, 2017 18:13:23 GMT -8
Interesting. Does Bronx have a plan? Nope. He ruined it. |
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Post by Sophia on Mar 5, 2017 18:20:52 GMT -8
I wonder if Bronx is telling the truth. Would at least be nice to be vindicated in thinking he wasn't scum this time. It's actually a whole lot worse if he's telling the truth. There are 24 players in this game. Depending on how many nights the poison takes and if there's any other doctors, he's potentially pushed up Lylo/Mylo by quite a few turns. |
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Post by natiko on Mar 5, 2017 19:42:04 GMT -8
I wonder if Bronx is telling the truth. Would at least be nice to be vindicated in thinking he wasn't scum this time. It's actually a whole lot worse if he's telling the truth. There are 24 players in this game. Depending on how many nights the poison takes and if there's any other doctors, he's potentially pushed up Lylo/Mylo by quite a few turns. Oh I didn't say it was good news for town if he's being honest, more meant cause of all the back and forth D1 about him  |
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Post by cabot on Mar 6, 2017 0:38:07 GMT -8
role spoilers for a certain ...
Isn't Bronx a two-shot cure? why the fuck did he think it was prudent to publically claim.
WHY DOESNT HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS GAMES
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 6, 2017 2:29:07 GMT -8
role spoilers for a certain ...
Isn't Bronx a two-shot cure? why the fuck did he think it was prudent to publically claim.
WHY DOESNT HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS GAMES
I guess he was betting on scum trying to role block rather than risking a kill. |
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Post by cabot on Mar 6, 2017 4:55:19 GMT -8
role spoilers for a certain ...
Isn't Bronx a two-shot cure? why the fuck did he think it was prudent to publically claim.
WHY DOESNT HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS GAMES
I guess he was betting on scum trying to role block rather than risking a kill. It's possible. I'm surprised Crab is so sure of Bronx lying, has he erased Pop from his memory? (clearly not since he referenced it in game) |
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Post by Sophia on Mar 6, 2017 7:13:58 GMT -8
Crab's logic is all fine and dandy, except for the part where lynching Bronx doesn't actually improve town odds. Barring some super weird power role like what happened in Harry Potter, a mislynch is a mislynch.
That being said, I understand Crab's anger even if it's being expressed in a rather forward way.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 6, 2017 8:05:34 GMT -8
Lynching Bronx is nonsensical. Assuming that a person being healed would be notified, his role is entirely provable.
And scum has to kill him anyway.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 6, 2017 8:16:06 GMT -8
role spoilers for a certain ...
Isn't Bronx a two-shot cure? why the fuck did he think it was prudent to publically claim.
WHY DOESNT HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS GAMES
I guess he was betting on scum trying to role block rather than risking a kill. I don't know why they are mad about Bronx being Ascetic. That means he can't be protected either. All scum has to do is just kill him. There's a reason why they have one more shot than Bronx does. |
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Post by natiko on Mar 6, 2017 8:29:24 GMT -8
Things are off to a great start for town thus far in D2. They're definitely not going in circles and setting themselves up for disaster again.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 6, 2017 12:51:26 GMT -8
Lynching Bronx is nonsensical. Assuming that a person being healed would be notified, his role is entirely provable. And scum has to kill him anyway. It's actually a good way for town to figure out if scum has a roleblock, and what rules it has. Most likely they have some sort of roleblock, but if they don't they'll simply have no choice but to kill Bronx outright. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 6, 2017 13:20:42 GMT -8
PROTIP:
Blarg is not in this game.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 6, 2017 15:04:30 GMT -8
It's honestly kind of amusing how much Blarg is getting away with. Reminds me of another game where something similar happened. Pokemon Mafia, anyone? :p role spoilers for a certain ...
Isn't Bronx a two-shot cure? why the fuck did he think it was prudent to publically claim.
WHY DOESNT HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS GAMES
I guess he was betting on scum trying to role block rather than risking a kill. Knowing Bronx I'm assuming he saw the heat he got the last Day Phase, coupled with a few people saying they 'want to see his lynch today' at the start of this Day Phase, and figured his death was certain. So he claimed not to get lynched even though that was never 100% going to happen, but I do see why he would claim. |
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Post by yn on Mar 6, 2017 15:15:29 GMT -8
It's honestly kind of amusing how much Blarg is getting away with. Reminds me of another game where something similar happened. Pokemon Mafia, anyone? :p I guess he was betting on scum trying to role block rather than risking a kill. Knowing Bronx I'm assuming he saw the heat he got the last Day Phase, coupled with a few people saying they 'want to see his lynch today' at the start of this Day Phase, and figured his death was certain. So he claimed not to get lynched even though that was never 100% going to happen, but I do see why he would claim. lynches are prone to change all the time though. how many times did blackbuzzard evade lynches in persona? he claiming outright and so easily is weak play. if he really must claim for the day, should have waited at least until the day past its half time. at least. though to be honest, i'd expect the average player to be able to argue their way properly out of most insensible lynches. |
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Post by yn on Mar 6, 2017 15:40:09 GMT -8
im reading up to where CCS excusing bronx for the style of play that is basically "townie who has given up on a game" (i guess spoken from first hand experience? as CCS has now painted himself into an unreliable townie corner)
...DONT GIVE UP ON THE GAME >:C
it is A GAME. you are playing it with others. you aren't the main hero. they are not NPC. they are also putting in time and effort into it. the game wasn't designed around a specific player. stop being so self-centered dammit.
GAFia needs sophsoph's guide on how to play townie :3
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Post by natiko on Mar 6, 2017 18:54:53 GMT -8
I have trouble understanding anyone that thinks lynching Bronx here is a good move. I'm not sure I have ever pushed to lynch someone that just claimed, seems like they'll be the easiest to figure out long term.
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 6, 2017 22:20:55 GMT -8
lynches are prone to change all the time though. how many times did blackbuzzard evade lynches in persona? he claiming outright and so easily is weak play. if he really must claim for the day, should have waited at least until the day past its half time. at least.
though to be honest, i'd expect the average player to be able to argue their way properly out of most insensible lynches. Nah, I agree it wasn't the right move but I can see where Bronx is coming from and why he decided to do it. I also don't think he should have claimed since lynches are almost never 100% but I can see his logic in this whole thing.
He should have fought it and gone after others but what's done is done. :x |
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Post by cabot on Mar 7, 2017 0:39:34 GMT -8
You should almost never claim unless you're on the cusp of death, be it majority or deadline.
Bronx's logic was terrible, if people wanted him dead then so what, almost every single gafia game has a dead cert lynch target at the start of a day phase which ends up being different at day end.
He's been playing a lot of games, he has no excuse.
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Post by cabot on Mar 7, 2017 0:42:03 GMT -8
I also wouldnt lynch him because we have a poisoned who claimed first with a poison doctor.
I wouldn't policy lynch bad play after D1, but I will certainly scold the player responsible.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 7, 2017 7:51:26 GMT -8
Scum team is most likely sitting on the sidelines. I doubt they're the ones suggesting that they don't believe Bronx's roleclaim.
It's probably something like Kalor, Burb, Crab, and Blarg for scum team.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 7, 2017 8:03:24 GMT -8
I see we are at the "question the mod's reasoning" point of the game
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 7, 2017 8:28:05 GMT -8
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 7, 2017 8:29:57 GMT -8
it's really more a subset
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Post by natiko on Mar 7, 2017 9:04:23 GMT -8
Well either CCS finally came out with a claim or he's in fact scum. Kinda leaning more and more towards the latter, but I'd hate to think he's trying so much primarily because he's scum lol
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