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Post by Sophia on Mar 7, 2017 9:51:11 GMT -8
GAFia needs sophsoph's guide on how to play townie :3 I started rewriting this right now, actually. It's coming off as more of tips guide then a formal one, but it should be useful to some players I hope.
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Post by yn on Mar 7, 2017 17:36:42 GMT -8
*laughs until face hurts* o dear GAFia needs sophsoph's guide on how to play townie :3 I started rewriting this right now, actually. It's coming off as more of tips guide then a formal one, but it should be useful to some players I hope. \o/
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Post by squidyj on Mar 8, 2017 0:32:14 GMT -8
I see the games at the same standard of quality it was when I checked out on the first day of day 1
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Post by cabot on Mar 8, 2017 1:24:49 GMT -8
Undiscussed role chat:
another game, another painfully under-utilised lover chat.
sigh
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Post by yn on Mar 8, 2017 4:46:31 GMT -8
lol
love the splints, tho <3
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Post by natiko on Mar 8, 2017 5:43:55 GMT -8
Undiscussed role chat:
another game, another painfully under-utilised lover chat.
sigh
When Tim and I were lovers in Zelda I found it hard to utilize. The main benefit was being able to talk at night but that's only so much use when you're pretty sure the two of you are going to die early. Unless one of you is up for a lynch it seems like a hard to utilize role.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 10:00:51 GMT -8
I think me and Ty4on made really good use of the lovers chat in Love Boat. We even managed to identify (unintentionally) scum.
Gotta use it as a springboard for every single thought that comes to mind, especially if you know for certain the other person is aligned with you.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 10:07:12 GMT -8
Dragons + Splinter might be scum? Gut read anyhow.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 8, 2017 10:29:10 GMT -8
The main utility of lovers is two confirmed town if needed. It's going to depend on the player, but there's only so much benefit from a private chat with both people who are otherwise vanilla town and who can just post in the main thread.
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Post by natiko on Mar 8, 2017 11:36:18 GMT -8
Dragons + Splinter might be scum? Gut read anyhow. WAMD I would say is scum but knowing that only one of my initial scum reads was right I would be more inclined to say Vere is scum.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 11:39:06 GMT -8
Crab pls, if you're not scum, then there's almost certainly scum on your vote. LOOK AT THEM INSTEAD.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 11:55:13 GMT -8
The worst part is now town has no idea if this is a scum player trying to appeal to emotion, or a town player who has given up. They have no choice but to lynch Crab today now.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 13:25:12 GMT -8
This is really tedious to read... : \
EDIT: HERE IS MY MARK ON THE WORLD TO SHOW THAT AT 4:56 PM OUTER GAFIA IS INFACT WORKING.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 14:05:49 GMT -8
That sudden last push on Crab is suspect. Seems like Verelios was likely scum.
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Post by natiko on Mar 8, 2017 14:12:30 GMT -8
Sorian/Vere/Burb/CCS/inactive scum team is my current thoughts.
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Post by cabot on Mar 8, 2017 14:13:25 GMT -8
The main utility of lovers is two confirmed town if needed. It's going to depend on the player, but there's only so much benefit from a private chat with both people who are otherwise vanilla town and who can just post in the main thread. I think you're underestimating the importance of knowing you can 100% trust someone from the start of the game. [/spoiler
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Post by natiko on Mar 8, 2017 14:16:30 GMT -8
The main utility of lovers is two confirmed town if needed. It's going to depend on the player, but there's only so much benefit from a private chat with both people who are otherwise vanilla town and who can just post in the main thread. I think you're underestimating the importance of knowing you can 100% trust someone from the start of the game. [/spoiler
What's hard though is so early in the game you can't derive any clear thoughts from others reads on you two unless a scum member tips their hand that they're overly convinced you and this other person are town, but even that isn't full proof. Maybe I'm just not at that level of playing yet though. My reads are garbo
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 8, 2017 14:17:37 GMT -8
The main utility of lovers is two confirmed town if needed. It's going to depend on the player, but there's only so much benefit from a private chat with both people who are otherwise vanilla town and who can just post in the main thread. And my guess is that they won't realize that Mason is a better claim than Lover...
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 8, 2017 15:43:05 GMT -8
The main utility of lovers is two confirmed town if needed. It's going to depend on the player, but there's only so much benefit from a private chat with both people who are otherwise vanilla town and who can just post in the main thread. And my guess is that they won't realize that Mason is a better claim than Lover... After how today went, they might not realise that claiming is better than not claiming
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Post by dusksoldier on Mar 8, 2017 16:07:27 GMT -8
Lovers are generallly considered a negative utility role to town because they are a two for one kill for scum. Also, if they collude too much, players in-game can pick up on their synergy and target them for it.
Masons are the pair that are good for town.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 8, 2017 18:02:21 GMT -8
We have had games with mixed alignment masons though 
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Post by Sawneeks on Mar 8, 2017 18:42:00 GMT -8
We have had games with mixed alignment masons though :P Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell. Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell. Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell.PTSDdog.gif although that one was more gossip than mason but whatever
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 19:09:39 GMT -8
Lovers are generallly considered a negative utility role to town because they are a two for one kill for scum. Also, if they collude too much, players in-game can pick up on their synergy and target them for it.
Masons are the pair that are good for town. This is exactly what happened to me and Burb in Overwatch Mafia. We have had games with mixed alignment masons though :P Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell. Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell. Chocolate ice cream is a scumtell.PTSDdog.gif although that one was more gossip than mason but whatever Apparently, the common term for an alignement neutral chat is "Neighbor", as I found out after The Price Is Right finished. themoreyouknow.jpg
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Post by Sophia on Mar 8, 2017 20:34:56 GMT -8
I just looked at the flavor... did you just.... serve everyone Crab?
How rude.
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Post by natiko on Mar 9, 2017 18:16:12 GMT -8
I just looked at the flavor... did you just.... serve everyone Crab? How rude. I believe you mean how delicious.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 10, 2017 10:03:17 GMT -8
Scum chat is basically one of them arguing that it would be insane to have a Poison Doctor
Now, I think the game is pretty balanced as-is. Problem is that the game will probably run longer than I originally thought, since I was mostly concerned with balance and less on speed. Probably should have thrown in a couple killing roles here and there. Ah well. I'm going to shorten the phases starting D4.
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Post by natiko on Mar 10, 2017 12:55:47 GMT -8
Please tell me they're killing Bronx. If I have to read another day of "should we or should we not lynch Bronx" I might go insane.
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Post by OceanicAir on Mar 10, 2017 14:21:14 GMT -8
RIP Natiko's sanity
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Post by natiko on Mar 10, 2017 14:44:35 GMT -8
Please tell me Sorian is scum. Otherwise he's on pace for a repeat of being left alive for bad reads.
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Post by Ourobolus on Mar 10, 2017 14:53:29 GMT -8
bzzt
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