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Post by pkgaming on Nov 15, 2016 10:53:53 GMT -8
Aye, aye cap'n!
I'm struggling of what to say in the thread atm. I'm going to lay low, and try not to make any big waves.
Man, I hope we can pull this off!
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 15, 2016 11:22:27 GMT -8
Well im probably gonna respond to Exo's accusation soon.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 15, 2016 13:30:31 GMT -8
Don't feel the need to defend yourself. Just give your thoughts on people and contribute a bit.
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Post by pkgaming on Nov 15, 2016 15:01:03 GMT -8
Forget Investigating, I say we use up one of our Stealth kills on Sorian, immediately. He's simply far too dangerous of a player to let go as is.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 15, 2016 16:22:14 GMT -8
If we stealth kill we chance being blocked by a doctor. If we strongman kill we chance being seen by a watcher. Sorian is going to be a prime target for defensive roles. But you're right, he's a real threat. The usual strategy is to kill some low key players that aren't likely to be blocked and that might be hiding power roles. But it can sometimes backfire when leaving such a strong player in play. We need to think it through. As for my own strategy, I said I would call regular townie and Magician if ever it comes down to it. I've changed my mind. We need to take a look at the possible arcana and figure out what might be important power roles: megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Arcana. My guesses would be that Priestess is doctor, Justice or Fortune would be investigators...hard to say but I'll probably claim one of these if it comes down to it. Might as well force a role claim or lure a power role out if ever I'm going down.
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Post by Style on Nov 15, 2016 18:41:42 GMT -8
We need you to keep up the majority. Also I'm the easiest target for the town right now because I messed up.
I have a plan to try and get some credibility, but even if it should work if we end up lynching a villager and everyone is back to zero on day 2, I'm going to be in a pinch.
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Post by Style on Nov 15, 2016 20:35:12 GMT -8
Exodus are you okay if I do a role claim first in case they won't budge off me?
Here's how I plan to do it. The current sample PM in the OT doesn't show that you are given an Arcana and there's no where in the rules/OT it's mentioned that you get an Arcana.
I plan to role claim as a power role of the Sun arcana (for now I think it's best to stick to the one's we've been given for bluffing). Mentioning an arcana should give some credibility to your role claim since there's no way regulars know you get one. I hope it works out if you/me (depending on who claims a role) stress the fact that you got an arcana because the real power role players might see the claim and buy it because they know they have one too.
As for what role to claim it should probably be something like a "Navigator", "Healer" or "Doctor". I don't know what name it should be (if we follow traditional Werewolf role names or Persona roles?).
Claim you have the power to block a kill at night and you'll prove it on the next night. That night we (scums) don't kill anyone. Hopefully that buys a lot of trust for the rest of the game.
I honestly don't know which one of us should do it, you or me. I want to do it to save my ass, but it's a gambit since there's a chance they see through it.
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Post by pkgaming on Nov 15, 2016 21:57:36 GMT -8
If we stealth kill we chance being blocked by a doctor. If we strongman kill we chance being seen by a watcher. Sorian is going to be a prime target for defensive roles. But you're right, he's a real threat. The usual strategy is to kill some low key players that aren't likely to be blocked and that might be hiding power roles. But it can sometimes backfire when leaving such a strong player in play. We need to think it through. As for my own strategy, I said I would call regular townie and Magician if ever it comes down to it. I've changed my mind. We need to take a look at the possible arcana and figure out what might be important power roles: megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Arcana. My guesses would be that Priestess is doctor, Justice or Fortune would be investigators...hard to say but I'll probably claim one of these if it comes down to it. Might as well force a role claim or lure a power role out if ever I'm going down. So do I go back to Investigating Sorian? Killing off weaker players seems like a good idea, but I'm afraid of running into traps. Do any of the town players have investigative abilities? I love the idea of forcing a role claim though.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 7:01:10 GMT -8
Town players may have investigative roles too. In classic WW there's a town aligned role that gets to see another players role each night.
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Post by pkgaming on Nov 16, 2016 8:11:06 GMT -8
That sounds unbelievably dangerous
Couldn't they immediately out any of us as culprits if they investigated us...?
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 8:26:17 GMT -8
I have the suspicion that Flux is the investigator or some sort of power role.
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Post by pkgaming on Nov 16, 2016 11:07:59 GMT -8
Damn, looks like Flux is applying the pressure on me already. I just have to keep calm, right?
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 11:25:47 GMT -8
Yes you still got 2 days left, jumping the gun now and going full on defense mode will just make you look more suspicious. Give it some more time somebody is sure to mess up when we go into the last day then its time to see if we can sway the vote to somebody else.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 11:29:09 GMT -8
Keep absolutely calm. Reacting to Flux' pressure is what always get me in a pinch.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 11:32:30 GMT -8
I really wanted to keep Flux and Sorian in the game to keep it interesting, but damn if they aren't some of the first we have to let go.
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 11:42:42 GMT -8
Flux is by far the most dangerous and will get protected the first day.
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Post by pkgaming on Nov 16, 2016 11:43:31 GMT -8
I say we kill em
And sorry about Style, I had no choice
I think I killed some of our momentum
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 11:45:02 GMT -8
Flux got you in his sight Style i think you need to lay off the reactionary gifs.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 11:46:28 GMT -8
Aaand I think I got Flux hooked with the "subtle hint" part. Flux is definitely a power role. He understood what I meant and he's asking me now to fish out that I got an arcana. Buzzard we might have to use your strong man kill to get him out of the way immediately this night.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 11:48:00 GMT -8
I'm not 100 % sure, but if that post worked as intended Flux will believe I'm a power role now. Might be hasty but I think Flux is a power role. We are screwed.
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 11:49:02 GMT -8
Yeah that's what i was thinking as well because the chance of a block being placed on flux is high, i say its worth the risk. I don't think im suspect as of yet im only being targeted for being inactive.
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Post by Style on Nov 16, 2016 11:52:38 GMT -8
PK I'm okay with you voting on me, but it's kinda a bad move to jump on to the "easy target" of the game immediately after being questioned. That's what I got in the searchlight for in the first place, plus I've been using the rhetoric that everyone that jumped on the style train is using me as a scape goat. Don't change your vote though, let it stay.
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 11:58:08 GMT -8
Yeah we still have 49 hours left before the vote closes, no need to start acting reckless
Francomp to me looks like a townie and just throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Starsketch is probably role baiting. The rest to be honest is too silent so i cant really get a read on them.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 16, 2016 12:26:41 GMT -8
Don't role claim unless absolutely necessary. Don't be overly defensive yet...suspicion may move onto someone else. Rats is a possible target now...I may move onto him next. I'll try to keep pressuring inactives.
Don't investigate Sorian I think...too risky. We need to investigate townies that are playing low key...they may be trying to avoid being targeted.
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 12:38:13 GMT -8
I went for vanguard makes for an easy target i think.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 16, 2016 12:41:25 GMT -8
Probable town roles:
Investigator - sees someone's alignment at night Switcher - swaps one target for another...any actions that are directed towards the target are directed to the switchee instead. Doctor - protects someone at night
I wouldn't be surprised to see Lovers either, considering it's an Arcana. 2 Lovers are linked together and if one dies, both die.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 16, 2016 12:45:14 GMT -8
I think we should target (at night) someone that is neither suspicious, nor has posted much. Someone that is trying to not raise Scum's attention. Matt Attack is a possible candidate.
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Post by blackbuzzard on Nov 16, 2016 12:45:50 GMT -8
Exo can you give a break down of the possible roles that can be in the game? I only rly know the basics of cop and nurse.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 16, 2016 12:55:08 GMT -8
Investigator, Switcher, Doctor, Lovers, Arsonist, Vigilante, Fool, Masons. Off the top of my head. There are tons others...but I have to try to think back to previous GAFIA games.
There may also be unique roles with unique mechanics that have been designed for Persona. We'll get a better idea once we see a townie or two die.
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Post by TheExodu5 on Nov 16, 2016 12:58:34 GMT -8
Sorry PK, I'm going after you. It was a really scummy vote and I'd rather start the bandwagon than join it. You won't need to defend yourself. You may not need to defend yourself if a townie slips up and becomes the suspect. But you should get a role claim ready if absolutely necessary. And by that I mean if you're the majority vote with less than an hour to go before the end of the day. We have time to think about it.
Until then, just come up with a defense to use if a bunch of people start jumping on the bandwagon. e.g. "Style seemed like the most likely suspect and it seemed better to move the game forward rather than split votes even further". Your defense should not be explaining why you are town, but rather why you think Style is scum.
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