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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:21:46 GMT -8
Also, Ouro's claim makes sense with Widowmaker's ability. It allows you to find *ENEMY* players. At first I was thinking it was more like a Tracker role, but when I thought about it, it fits cop too. Yours fits with Mercy's (Ultimate ability that she can use whenever to resurrect people) And mien fits with Genji's (secondary cooldown with a low cooldown timer that reflects all abilities back) Yeah, they fit, but I don't want to look too deeply into it, because I don't know anything about Overwatch lore other than one character shouting "JUSTICE! RAINS FROM ABOVE"  |
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:23:27 GMT -8
Even discounting your information, I can't think of any scenario where two town one sucm OR Two scum one town makes sense. Can you? Two scum one town only makes sense if there is lot of bussing going (ouro-vere) or one of the scum is dumb as rocks (zeke-vere). Two town makes sense if Ouro is faking his hero for.... whatever the reason (Ouro-Zeke) or if there was lot of night action confusion going on, like a switcher or something. |
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:27:05 GMT -8
I trust Sorian designed this game with "balance and roles first, lore fitting last", and not the other way around.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:27:25 GMT -8
I just can't see why Ouro would fake his hero name, or why scum would be attempting an absolutely pathetic bus this way.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:28:22 GMT -8
I can still see both him and Verelious to be lynchers, targeting each other. I mean, they were on each of their throats yesterday.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:29:37 GMT -8
I can still see both him and Verelious to be lynchers, targeting each other. I mean, they were on each of their throats yesterday. Right, that would require at least one of them to be a neutral. Basically, I can't see a scenario where there isn't a neutral or something like a switcher going on is what I mean. |
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:30:48 GMT -8
Verelious hasn't posted since like... page 27?
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:32:02 GMT -8
I can still see both him and Verelious to be lynchers, targeting each other. I mean, they were on each of their throats yesterday. Right, that would require at least one of them to be a neutral. Basically, I can't see a scenario where there isn't a neutral or something like a switcher going on is what I mean. If they all are town, and there was a switcher AND Ouro claimed wrong hero for lolz, I'll just throw my hands in the air, lol. |
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:32:34 GMT -8
I might voice my suspicions about it.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:35:16 GMT -8
It won't hurt.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:37:48 GMT -8
Let's see how quickly Verelios jumps in after my call-out.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:42:30 GMT -8
I admit I don't have a particularly strong argument for why Verelios over Ouro if called out. So I suspect I might need to defend myself there.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:42:32 GMT -8
The only scenario I can see Verelious' power being real is if he Bulletproofed everyone, then scum used strongman to kill Ouro. But that still would make ouro town, or neutral lyncher, not scum.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:44:06 GMT -8
Right, Kingkitty has been in this game too.
We haven't really looked at the coasters at all now. This is a golden oppoturnity for most of the scum just to sit back, and watch the trainwreck.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:48:05 GMT -8
Right, Kingkitty has been in this game too. We haven't really looked at the coasters at all now. This is a golden oppoturnity for most of the scum just to sit back, and watch the trainwreck. Yeah, this is why it's such a bad scenario for town. Scum is probably enjoying this. |
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:49:06 GMT -8
The only scenario I can see Verelious' power being real is if he Bulletproofed everyone, then scum used strongman to kill Ouro. But that still would make ouro town, or neutral lyncher, not scum. To be honest... seems possible? : \ I'm dreading the worst case scenario where there is no scum in that triangle. |
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:52:37 GMT -8
The only scenario I can see Verelious' power being real is if he Bulletproofed everyone, then scum used strongman to kill Ouro. But that still would make ouro town, or neutral lyncher, not scum. To be honest... seems possible? : \ I'm dreading the worst case scenario where there is no scum in that triangle. Yeah. I'm hoping that's not the case, because town might end up being seriously fucked. |
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:54:15 GMT -8
I had to play it off as I did, but if they lynch Ezekel and he flips Widow we're in a poor spot tomorrow. : \
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:56:14 GMT -8
What makes me doubt Verelios' claim also is that would mean town would have two healers with really powerful abilites, him and me. It is a role madness, but still.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:57:42 GMT -8
Also the fact that he has been MIA for no apparent reason.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:59:04 GMT -8
What makes me doubt Verelios' claim also is that would mean town would have two healers with really powerful abilites, him and me. It is a role madness, but still. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Because your ability is stupidly powerful as is. But if he's telling the truth that means town had: - A resurrection ability that effectively roleblocks the scum kill.
- Another doctor/roleblock ability
- And a town roleblockero n top of that.
.... and all of them were lost DAY 1
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 13:00:25 GMT -8
There is most likely some regular doctor as well, since scum would have a strongman if Verelios is telling the truth.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 13:17:09 GMT -8
Occam's razor and all that suggests that someone is probably lying, and it's most likely the one with the contradiction on your ability.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 13:20:47 GMT -8
I'm working with the assumption Vere was caught pants on fire, and tried to buy towny points by hastily making a claim that would explain no deaths N1. He could be even baiting me to claim and contradict him.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 13:26:06 GMT -8
Splinter is just not bothered to look at the bigger picture. When I asked him what the motivations of the people in this triangle are, he has just been responded with "idk lol idgaf".
Why did Ouro claim WM?
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 13:28:44 GMT -8
This really is the game of lawyers, though. Zeke is the star lawyer of Verelios, while Splinter is Zeke's lawyer and I'm Ouro's.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 13:34:53 GMT -8
Zeke has a point. Not taking into account the information we have, if Ouro flips, we learn Zeke and Verelio's alignments both.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 13:35:09 GMT -8
Unless there was a switcher or some nonsense.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 13:37:37 GMT -8
Do you think Haly is scum? He was awfully quick to jump over to the Ouro lynch train.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 13:38:08 GMT -8
Unless Ouro was foolish enough to claim fake hero while still being town cop.
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