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Post by Sophia on Oct 14, 2016 18:56:21 GMT -8
This is confusing. I don't know what to do here... it just seems too easy that scum would counter-claim it like that.
But the whole... being linked together thing makes me suspect we're both town, as otherwise I could intentionally get lynched/shot and take you out.
I dunno.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 14, 2016 19:46:27 GMT -8
Hmm... Verelios is probably scum, but maybe Ouro is a neutral and Ezekel is telling the truth?
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Post by Sophia on Oct 14, 2016 21:37:18 GMT -8
"Operation: Stall for Burbeting" is a success! I think... >_>;
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 0:40:42 GMT -8
Okay so...
This is confusing, for sure. Firstly, I feel that Zeke is being truthful here, Ouro might be lying about his character.
On the other hand, Verelious is most definitely lying. We know that Ourobolus was supposed to die last night, so there can't have been an universal bulletproof.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 2:34:12 GMT -8
I'm acting with the knowledge that Verelious is lying about his role.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 3:59:31 GMT -8
I'm sorry. I'm really angry and sad at real life right now, and it's spilling to the game.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 7:52:08 GMT -8
I just woke up, so I'm reading over stuff.
The one thing I couldn't figure out is why Ouro would be lying. We know he's not scum because you saved him last night, but... what is he then?
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 8:43:35 GMT -8
I just woke up, so I'm reading over stuff. The one thing I couldn't figure out is why Ouro would be lying. We know he's not scum because you saved him last night, but... what is he then? Neutral lyncher in the worst case scenario.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 9:05:07 GMT -8
I just woke up, so I'm reading over stuff. The one thing I couldn't figure out is why Ouro would be lying. We know he's not scum because you saved him last night, but... what is he then? Neutral lyncher in the worst case scenario. Yeah... even him exiting by Neutral lyncher isn't too bad. But only if Verelios is actually scum. If he's town, then we as town have gotten nowhere. That being said, Verelios's ability contradicts your own + the roleblocker, so...
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 9:12:22 GMT -8
Odds are that Nin is telling the truth? Hmm..
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 10:11:14 GMT -8
I'm guessing you probably don't want to flip Ouro, seeing as you saved him? 
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:02:22 GMT -8
You there, Burb?
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:10:20 GMT -8
If votes swing towards Ouro, I think we should clear him of being scum, at least.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:16:41 GMT -8
I'd rather lynch Verelios without claiming tho, because if we claim there's a good shot we both die even without mentioning the connection between us.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:23:08 GMT -8
I really hope we don't run into the worst case scenario where Ouro is Neutral and Verelios is town. It's not likely to happen, but...
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:36:04 GMT -8
Knowing what we know, Haly's vote seems suspicious.
Also, their back and fourth is actually kind of annoying now...
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:37:42 GMT -8
I'm still here. Trying to cool down my head.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:38:38 GMT -8
I hope I don't have to claim my power.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:38:57 GMT -8
I'm still here. Trying to cool down my head. It's cool. Take your time. It's not the end of the world if a few people suspect you, especially when we have multiple ways to semi-clear you.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:39:58 GMT -8
I'm guessing you probably don't want to flip Ouro, seeing as you saved him? Flipping him feels pointless, and waste of time. We don't know how many scum there are, and how many night kills will happen in the future. So let's not waste lynches on verifying someone we know is most likely town.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:40:10 GMT -8
I hope I don't have to claim my power. Yeah, I'd rather not claim. Scum will probably shoot and take no changes and we'll both die. But at the same time I don't want to see Ouro go to the chopping block. But at the same time I'm not entirely convinced Ezekel is scum right now, or that Ouro is telling the truth. But at the same time I'm not sure what to ask Ouro to get the truth out without making it look like I have more info than I actually do. TLDR: I'm making chicken nuggets, want some? 
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:40:28 GMT -8
I'm still here. Trying to cool down my head. It's cool. Take your time. It's not the end of the world if a few people suspect you, especially when we have multiple ways to semi-clear you. Yeah, it's not the game bothering me, it's stuff outside of it.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 11:41:21 GMT -8
It's cool. Take your time. It's not the end of the world if a few people suspect you, especially when we have multiple ways to semi-clear you. Yeah, it's not the game bothering me, it's stuff outside of it. Ahh. I see. My uncle's hanging around here a lot, and between that and the FFXIV Fanfestival I'm not giving the game as much attention as it deserves. 
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:41:54 GMT -8
I'm slightly scum read by ouro and heavily scum read by splinter, so I think I'm safe from NK if I don't claim.
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 11:46:57 GMT -8
Zeke is so hellbent in protecting Verelious. I mean, verelious flipping town would also help Zeke's agenda of showing Ouro is full of poop.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:00:42 GMT -8
Neutral Zeke who is Zarya, and has to protect Verelios regardless of alignment? Verelios's faction wins, Zeke wins?
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:04:10 GMT -8
I wouldn't look too deeply into flavor, but it's possible?
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 15, 2016 12:07:03 GMT -8
At any case, no way all those three are town. And we have a good case to why Ouro is town, or at least neutral.
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:10:17 GMT -8
Even discounting your information, I can't think of any scenario where two town one sucm OR Two scum one town makes sense.
Can you?
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Post by Sophia on Oct 15, 2016 12:16:39 GMT -8
Also, Ouro's claim makes sense with Widowmaker's ability. It allows you to find *ENEMY* players. At first I was thinking it was more like a Tracker role, but when I thought about it, it fits cop too.
Yours fits with Mercy's (Ultimate ability that she can use whenever to resurrect people)
And mien fits with Genji's (secondary cooldown with a low cooldown timer that reflects all abilities back)
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