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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 13, 2016 17:03:46 GMT -8
I kinda feel like ouro having kill powers is unlikely. Again, I don't know his style, but if anything he seems more interested in reporting what he thinks (not knows, I doubt he knows anything) for others to tackle things.
I'll be at work in 2 hours and able to look at things more closely. I still think killing Ouro along with the windup shot is ideal. There's a blocker gone so that increases our chances of our shots working.
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Post by ezekelrage on Oct 13, 2016 17:12:38 GMT -8
a kill on ouro with windup shot may not be possible, especially if I got blocked tonight
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 13, 2016 17:22:37 GMT -8
A doctor on Ouro would also stop it. I think a lot of doctors would choose him, especially if someone on good list flips scum.
Returning to the domino effect of mislynches, if that's the case then it'd probably also happen if one of us if lynched tomorrow.
I don't think it's that likely we'd see a domino though unless we're independently* scum read harder by the rest of town. I could totally see town thinking "oh, Ouro got killed because he nailed two scum" and not realize he got four scum and kinda the fifth as well.
*Wouldn't be 100% independent as the Ouro death certainly puts people on his list under note scrutiny. Keeping him alive though also does that unless town somehow decides to lynch him.
Any clue how town reads Ouro? They generally don't seem that wary of him, but few out outright town reading him.
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 13, 2016 17:23:35 GMT -8
"On his list", not "on good list".
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Post by verelios on Oct 13, 2016 18:11:14 GMT -8
From what I'm seeing town is green checking him for some reason. Hmmm, I wonder how that would go during day 2. If we can get him lynched that might be best but I don't know if the risk is worth it
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Post by verelios on Oct 13, 2016 18:48:13 GMT -8
Consensus on who to NK? Thoughts? I wouldn't mind Sophia or a more fringe player
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Post by Sorian on Oct 13, 2016 19:59:48 GMT -8
Just letting you all know you have 12 hours from this post to get night actions to me. At this point, the only command I have is the sniper charging.
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 13, 2016 20:56:10 GMT -8
We don't have to kill ouro WITH the windup kill, we can kill him ALONG with the windup kill. Maybe use the strongman kill then.
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 13, 2016 21:06:09 GMT -8
The idea I have is that there will be more confusion about what happened with more deaths at once.
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Post by verelios on Oct 13, 2016 21:40:41 GMT -8
That's interesting, but I'm worried about using up a shot this early
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Post by ezekelrage on Oct 13, 2016 22:07:56 GMT -8
A doctor on Ouro would also stop it. I think a lot of doctors would choose him, especially if someone on good list flips scum. Returning to the domino effect of mislynches, if that's the case then it'd probably also happen if one of us if lynched tomorrow. I don't think it's that likely we'd see a domino though unless we're independently* scum read harder by the rest of town. I could totally see town thinking "oh, Ouro got killed because he nailed two scum" and not realize he got four scum and kinda the fifth as well. *Wouldn't be 100% independent as the Ouro death certainly puts people on his list under note scrutiny. Keeping him alive though also does that unless town somehow decides to lynch him. Any clue how town reads Ouro? They generally don't seem that wary of him, but few out outright town reading him. We won't be able to lynch him. The domino effect may happen if one of us is lynched, but at least that gives others time to distance themselves and post correctly. We don't have to kill ouro WITH the windup kill, we can kill him ALONG with the windup kill. Maybe use the strongman kill then. I don't even know if the windup kill will go thru for 2mrw. We also don't know if we will have a strongman 2mrw. If we still have a strongman 2mrw he will still have one use of his ability left. Still the same for me, use the strongman kill on Ouro whlile we have the chance. There is no gurantee Kyan makes it outta 2mrw. Sophia kill would seem too random and doesn't really help us. Shield - Use it N1 since most vigs use their shot the first night and there is a good chance one of us will be hit. I think it will be most effective 2nite while we are all alive. Should roleblock Splinter imo. He seems to be coasting a bit. |
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Post by ezekelrage on Oct 13, 2016 22:10:33 GMT -8
The idea I have is that there will be more confusion about what happened with more deaths at once. We can only have 2 kills max every other night. If kyan activates his ability he must be the one to carry out the mob kill and I can't use my ability 2 nights in a row. So no matter what we will have 2 kills. Unless I read Kyan's stuff wrong. |
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 13, 2016 23:44:15 GMT -8
Why is Kyan going to activate his ability on night one with a dead roleblocker?
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 0:11:50 GMT -8
I kinda like the idea of killing someone else who is stronger with town, like Cabot or Sophia. I'd say Burbeting but people do seem to have some suspicion on him.
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Post by verelios on Oct 14, 2016 0:35:18 GMT -8
Huh, so you guys want to be shielded tonight?
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 2:26:20 GMT -8
I think it's a little premature for that myself personally, but I can definitely live with that happening.
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 14, 2016 3:34:31 GMT -8
I kinda like the idea of killing someone else who is stronger with town, like Cabot or Sophia. I'd say Burbeting but people do seem to have some suspicion on him. My worry is that town starts trusting Ouro more and he is active for the next day end. When someone on his list is lynched (or NK'd) that will make town trust him more. His views could shift, but the only shift they made on D1 was closer towards us. He was never on the lynch which makes him look more trustworthy. "Our D1 lynch didn't work so maybe we should follow Ouro" How do you think D2 would progress with a surviving Ouro? How likely do you think it is town mostly ignores him again and lets us lynch another townie? How much more attention do you think we will get if Ouro flips town tomorrow? Will they go "Must have nailed some scum" or "the list must be a distraction"? Sorry for sounding rhetorical again  I'm not 100% sold on killing Ouro, it's not an ideal choice, but I think it's the best we've got. I feel like we've gotta play a bit risky to win. |
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 14, 2016 3:37:43 GMT -8
I'd agree Sophia is a decent kill. Cabot not so much. He's town read, but also scum reading a lot of townies right now and even if he does latch on to us he usually doesn't lead a lynch. He's not that kind of a player.
Sophia doesn't lead a lot of lynches, but she can sway opinion when trusted.
Ouro did sway some opinions as well tho. Notice people commenting on me and Verelios a lot, that means they're following what he says.
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 4:22:25 GMT -8
I can go through with it, but remember, we're going to have to play a game of multiple people looking at us with his death vs. him leading people to trusting him with his life. We're gonna look suspicious no matter what if we kill Ouro. I'd rather hide in his speculation for one more day than with the more concrete idea of him being suspicious of us and then he turns out dead the next day.
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 4:23:18 GMT -8
and we have have 3.5 hours to decide because SOMEONE wants this game to be in mega-hyper-turbo mode. >_>;
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 4:34:52 GMT -8
Meanwhile, who are you thinking of trapping Ty4? I guess we should look at who might be holding back in a way that suggests they have a power they feel is important.
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 14, 2016 5:30:38 GMT -8
Meanwhile, who are you thinking of trapping Ty4? I guess we should look at who might be holding back in a way that suggests they have a power they feel is important. Sophia if we use shield. Ourobolus if we don't. You all have full permission to write my command here for me as I'm at work. |
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 5:45:00 GMT -8
Ok so that puts us at (TENTATIVE! TENTATIVE!):
Ty4on(Lingering Roleblock): Sophia if shield/Ourobolus if not
Barrylocke(Bulletproof/Ascetic):
Kyanrute(Strongman): Ouro/Sophia
EzekielRAGE(Windup Kill): Winding up
Verilios(Shield all): Shielding?
Assuming we use a strong shot on night 1. If we don't then I should probably do the kill, as I have no active night actions. I'm also assuming that if we choose to strong kill Ourobolus then we will Roleblock Sophia instead.
Would love to hear any additional thoughts though. We have 2 hours 15 min to go.
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Post by Ty4on on Oct 14, 2016 5:50:19 GMT -8
If Ouro is a killer he can still kill one of us even if we strong kill him.
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 6:08:03 GMT -8
that's true. I'd personally prefer to spread the love around but I guess he could have kill power, and he is the most likely to target us out of anyone that does have kill power.
I'd actually rather do that than use our shield right away personally.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 14, 2016 6:10:43 GMT -8
and we have have 3.5 hours to decide because SOMEONE wants this game to be in mega-hyper-turbo mode. >_>; Whenever I see Ty4on's avatar, I just gotta go fast |
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Post by Barrylocke on Oct 14, 2016 6:12:15 GMT -8
Sorian Ty4on(Lingering Roleblock): Ourobolus
Barrylocke(Bulletproof/Ascetic): N/A
Kyanrute(Strongman): Ouro
EzekielRAGE(Windup Kill): Winding up
Verilios(Shield all): N/AI'm not sure how long I'll be at this computer and with Ty4on at work and everyone else seemingly AFK, this will be the worst case scenario "we didn't get our act together to finalize things" Night actions. Please don't apply them until the deadline though.
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Post by kyanrute on Oct 14, 2016 6:13:46 GMT -8
I agree with the actions presented in the above post.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 14, 2016 6:14:46 GMT -8
Actions Received, will wait for deadline or any changes though.
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Post by ezekelrage on Oct 14, 2016 6:21:10 GMT -8
Ouro is a bigger threat than Sophia imo. She can be reasoned with to some extent.
Thoughts on Splint block?
Not so much worried about Ouro having kill power, but chances are high another townie or two has a kill power. Who vig chooses is the wildcard. If they are sympathetic to Ouro, then they will hit one of us from his list. If they go off on one of the topics of discussion today, it may be me/vere/ty. If day 1 went different for then I would agree the shield is premature, but it didn't.
BL - be prepared to answer why you thought my peeking was shady.
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