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Post by Roytheone on Oct 1, 2016 11:22:35 GMT -8
If Blarg doesn't get NK'd I'm eating my hat. That's why I am now officially activating operation Block the Vig!With Roylet! and definitely NOT Litten 
In order for Blarg to survive the Night, I think it is very important that Sawneeks blocks the vig. But for that, we need to know who the vig is. Our contestants:
Sophia [f]/starsketch
Dusk Soldier [m]
melonrabbit [f]
Unmasked Ferret [m]
Ynnek7 [m]
StanleyPalmtree [m]
Splinter
nin1000 [m]
Verelios [m]
Now, we can remove starsketch, she is a doublevoter. We also can remove stanley and melon, since those both got blocked and there was still a second kill.
Dusk Soldier [m]
Unmasked Ferret [m]
Ynnek7 [m]
Splinter
nin1000 [m]
Verelios [m]
Ferret is most likely indeed a tracker, so I don't think it's him. Dusk is probably a neutral based on the fact he tried to attract a night kill on night 3. That leaves
Ynnek7 [m]
Splinter
nin1000 [m]
Verelios [m]
I think one of those 4 are the vig. We should look at their posts to see if there is any hint about who is the vig. |
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Post by Fireblend on Oct 1, 2016 11:26:29 GMT -8
I'd say it's a 50-50 between Verelios and Ynnek for me. Both Splinter and nin1000 called for the vig to reveal themselves and that felt genuine to me but what do I know. I agree blocking the vig is a must, so lets give this some thought.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 1, 2016 11:28:43 GMT -8
Also, about the kill. I think I should strongman kill Ferret tonight. Any objections or other suggestions?
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 1, 2016 11:37:02 GMT -8
fuck yes, let's strategize, people
EKANS, you're my only hope, Power Role it!!
One heavy-duty, cast-iron, pile-driving Roleblock that'll have to stop so much it'll battle their Fossils
You halt them with a shot, it's gotta feel like they tried kissing the express Trainer, yeah
Let's start building some halting bond
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 1, 2016 11:38:03 GMT -8
but first
brb sleep powder
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 1, 2016 13:52:42 GMT -8
I'd say it's a 50-50 between Verelios and Ynnek for me. Both Splinter and nin1000 called for the vig to reveal themselves and that felt genuine to me but what do I know. I agree blocking the vig is a must, so lets give this some thought. Kill one, block the other? Doctor will be on Ferret but strongman can go through that. Sorry I wasn't around for day end. Was at a wedding. |
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 1, 2016 15:23:02 GMT -8
I'd say it's a 50-50 between Verelios and Ynnek for me. Both Splinter and nin1000 called for the vig to reveal themselves and that felt genuine to me but what do I know. I agree blocking the vig is a must, so lets give this some thought. Kill one, block the other? Doctor will be on Ferret but strongman can go through that. Sorry I wasn't around for day end. Was at a wedding. Killing the vig wouldn't save blarg, kills tend to happen simultaneously. |
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Post by Fireblend on Oct 1, 2016 17:24:29 GMT -8
Having my doubts about Dusk not being the vig. May have been playing some reverse psychology game on N3.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 1, 2016 23:02:28 GMT -8
Forgot about simultaneous kills.
Might be a breadcrumb somewhere since Ferret left one for his role.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 1, 2016 23:03:04 GMT -8
Also someone who believed Sawneeks that CM was scum.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 2, 2016 1:31:03 GMT -8
Having my doubts about Dusk not being the vig. May have been playing some reverse psychology game on N3. Eh, possibly. But he was also one of the people pushing PR to reveal themselves if they had info on day 4, so I don't think that is the case. Personally, I am leaning toward verilios being the vig, I think ynnek would have caved and come forward from the splinter/nin pressure. Btw, can everyone confirm they agree with the strongman Ferret kill? If everyone does, I can already send in the command. |
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Post by Fireblend on Oct 2, 2016 7:58:18 GMT -8
No objections against a Ferret NK. A tracker can be disastrous at this point.
As for block, that makes sense. Ynnek had some slight pressure so maybe that would've made them claim if they were the vig. We trust you to do the right thing, Sawneeks.
Looking forward to Blarg's thoughts.
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 2, 2016 11:04:08 GMT -8
yeah, I think I'm okay with
roytheone--> (Strongman) KILL: Unmasked Ferret
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But, regarding the Roleblock...
Sawneeks--> ROLEBLOCK: ??
So, as per roylet's breakdown, the likely nominees for Vigilante/SK are:
OPTION A. Dusk Soldier (contrary to roylet, I'm including Dusk in the pool for now, at least until I read Dusk's posts over again)
OPTION B. Ynnek7
OPTION C. Verelios
OPTION D. *Splinter
OPTION E. nin1000
And we'll have to decide which one of these players to Roleblock. I'll trawl through the thread again and see if I pick anything up to help us suss 'em out.
Meanwhile--
I've been thinking about the 2-kills-a-Night-except-for-N1, and I have a new theory about our mystery 2nd killer.
Considering that there wasn't a 2nd kill during N1, and that the odds of someone interrupting a NK'er on N1 in the midst of a total player count of 23 by whatever means is totes imposs; I'm starting to think that these second kills are being DISTRIBUTED. Hence, no N1 2nd kill, because that was the Night of someone being gifted the first 1-shot, which was subsequently used N2, and vice versa.
IMO, I think there's an Armourer/Inventor Role handing out 1-shot kills each Night (which are then usable the next Night):
N1: first hand-out; Armourer gifts a player with a 1-shot NK (only usable the next Night)
N2: first recipient uses their 1-shot (hence 2 deaths), Armourer gifts someone again
N3: second recipient uses their 1-shot (hence 2 deaths again), Armourer gifts someone again
and vice versa
Thus, if we go by this Armourer assumption; there could be a different 2nd killer every Night. Then, the key to all this is in finding out if anyone's breadcrumbed and/or hinted at an item distribution mechanic, or else hinted at having been gifted with something. Hence, I would consider the following with more thought:
- *Splinter with the Drifblim comment at the end of D?? (I forget); that admittedly pun-y comment of his could be an allusion to Drifblim's 'Stockpile' (which definitely sounds like a reference to Armourer/Inventor items, if I'm recalling my Pokemon lore correctly)
- at the end of D?? (my memory is terrible), Dusk Soldier saying that he would take care of CM in a response to *Splinter commenting that he'd like someone to take care of CM
- I seem to remember someone, was it Ynnek7??, quoting themselves and pointing out they had breadcrumbed themselves as Vigilante with some kind of "Vigilante justice" quote? He could have been an item/1-shot NK recipient and was hinting that he had had it, going by my theory
- TO BE CONT. (tomorrow)
(I'll do a more detailed fact-checking for all this and more tomorrow, this is just me outlining the gist of where I'm going with all this)
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 2, 2016 11:07:25 GMT -8
yeah, I think I'm okay with roytheone--> (Strongman) KILL: Unmasked Ferret--- But, regarding the Roleblock... Sawneeks--> ROLEBLOCK: ??So, as per roylet's breakdown, the likely nominees for Vigilante/SK are: OPTION A. Dusk Soldier (contrary to roylet, I'm including Dusk in the pool for now, at least until I read Dusk's posts over again) OPTION B. Ynnek7OPTION C. VereliosOPTION D. *SplinterOPTION E. nin1000And we'll have to decide which one of these players to Roleblock. I'll trawl through the thread again and see if I pick anything up to help us suss 'em out. Meanwhile--I've been thinking about the 2-kills-a-Night-except-for-N1, and I have a new theory about our mystery 2nd killer. Considering that there wasn't a 2nd kill during N1, and that the odds of someone interrupting a NK'er on N1 in the midst of a total player count of 23 by whatever means is totes imposs; I'm starting to think that these second kills are being DISTRIBUTED. Hence, no N1 2nd kill, because that was the Night of someone being gifted the first 1-shot, which was subsequently used N2, and vice versa. IMO, I think there's an Armourer/Inventor Role handing out 1-shot kills each Night (which are then usable the next Night): N1: first hand-out; Armourer gifts a player with a 1-shot NK (only usable the next Night) N2: first recipient uses their 1-shot (hence 2 deaths), Armourer gifts someone again N3: second recipient uses their 1-shot (hence 2 deaths again), Armourer gifts someone again and vice versaThus, if we go by this Armourer assumption; there could be a different 2nd killer every Night. Then, the key to all this is in finding out if anyone's breadcrumbed and/or hinted at an item distribution mechanic, or else hinted at having been gifted with something. Hence, I would consider the following with more thought: - *Splinter with the Drifblim comment at the end of D?? (I forget); that admittedly pun-y comment of his could be an allusion to Drifblim's 'Stockpile' (which definitely sounds like a reference to Armourer/Inventor items, if I'm recalling my Pokemon lore correctly) - at the end of D?? (my memory is terrible), Dusk Soldier saying that he would take care of CM in a response to *Splinter commenting that he'd like someone to take care of CM - I seem to remember someone, was it Ynnek7??, quoting themselves and pointing out they had breadcrumbed themselves as Vigilante with some kind of "Vigilante justice" quote? He could have been an item/1-shot NK recipient and was hinting that he had had it, going by my theory - TO BE CONT. (tomorrow) (I'll do a more detailed fact-checking for all this and more tomorrow, this is just me outlining the gist of where I'm going with all this) Or there is just an X-shot vig that didn't shoot N1 since they had no idea who to shoot  |
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 2, 2016 11:24:38 GMT -8
Or there is just an X-shot vig that didn't shoot N1 since they had no idea who to shoot YOU'RE TEARING ME APART ROYLET |
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 3, 2016 0:53:54 GMT -8
Getting this out here before I go to work:
STRONGMAN: Unmasked Ferret
This day fase will fall right into a very busy work periode for me, so expect me to be very low activity. I also can't be there on days end.
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 8:44:34 GMT -8
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 8:48:24 GMT -8
These breadcrumbs are trash
I can't justify any single Roleblock target in particular
too much chance involved, everything's a lie or not
I'm assuming Sawneeks sent in her Roleblock command already, so
Here's hoping
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 3, 2016 8:51:52 GMT -8
Going back to the Topo being caught reveal. Vig would kill him if they were skeptical (I notice Ty asked about the roleblock, which is funny in hindsight because he was a trainer too).
Ynnek:
Splinter also seemed doubtful.
nin:
Dusk: totally ignores Topo, posts a scum list of Ynnek and CM.
Only one post from Verelios about it then he disappears for the rest of the day (to load his gun, probably):
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 8:52:03 GMT -8
If Sawneeks hasn't sent in her command already, then I'd go for ROLEBLOCK: Ynnek7; if she already has, then ignore this suggestion
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 3, 2016 9:01:10 GMT -8
Night actions have been locked
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 9:05:50 GMT -8
I dunno about Dusk Soldier; it's just too obvious a bait move for me (his claim of going to take care of CM for *Splint at the very last minute of that Day)
IMO, I still think he's running interference for the real Vig/SK
Verelios, maybe, ugh
I'm trying to look at it from a target POV; consider that the Vig/SK's kills were:
El Topo, and
Christina Mackenzie
Those hits feel... new
new as in, target choices made by a player relatively new to GAFia. I dunno, this is pure unadulterated 100% meta I'm going off here, but it seems like whoever this killer is, they targeted these 2 players without a sense of... camaraderie(?) affecting their decision-making
It seems to me that a more long-standing member/player of GAFia, would go after the quieter/newer ones first, keep the vets in play longer out of a sense of... friendliness.
Yeah.
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 9:08:20 GMT -8
/end BS theory #237
Remember, don't ever listen to me
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 3, 2016 9:20:22 GMT -8
Maybe it is Verelios. He was pretty active on Flush D2, then stood back a bit (might be getting too much attention from scum). At the start of D4 he was a little more active again (guilt at hitting two townies)?
Contrast that with Ynnek who has been coasting the whole game. If it is him his bias against Blarg (that D3 vote) might make him hesitant about killing him.
Verelios brings up the x-shot on the vig. Talks a lot about being on the edge, going after inactives would be fine, disagrees about coming forward. Justifies his TheG vote because he can block powers (doesn't want to lose his?)
He also said this D1:
Freedom fighter = SK?
From Dusk:
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Post by Burbeting on Oct 3, 2016 9:26:06 GMT -8
No team rocket members were recruited during the night phase.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 3, 2016 9:26:55 GMT -8
Dusk:
Verelios, on why Topo died:
Verelios, on Blarg's plan to save TheG and reveal the vig:
Contradicts what he said about voting out TheG due to his roleblocking power. Maybe he's already been caught?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 3, 2016 9:32:22 GMT -8
Man that would've been awkward if I lost my posting privileges mid-post.
What flavour would a vig/SK have? Would they be a Pokemon or a human?
Search for "Ash":
Verelios:
Dusk:
Maybe it's a Pokemon. What could be a vigilante Pokemon? Gyarados?
Stanley:
Blastoise: no matches
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Post by Blargonaut on Oct 3, 2016 9:33:08 GMT -8
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Post by Fireblend on Oct 3, 2016 10:05:23 GMT -8
Crossing my fingers.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 3, 2016 11:01:38 GMT -8
Um, we've pretty much won.
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