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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 18:48:26 GMT -8
I don't like how hostile Kawl is being suddenly
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:01:50 GMT -8
I just had an idea and since you may be dead by the time we are doing night actions, tell me what you think.
Let's do occam's razor and assume that YNNNY didn't pull a perfect claim out of her ass and she is really a one shot cop. Like I said, this means that town HAS to have a blocker that blocked me. If town has a blocker, 1B, and 1 full cop and 1 one shot cop, 3C, that means there were 3Ts which makes sense from our goon, goon, roleblocker spread. If that's the case, the serial killer really would exist (and must be laughing at the thread). So check my work here so far, does all of that look right and is it the only possible set-up?
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If so, I don't want to make a kill tonight and batsnacks, just so I know, does mafia have the choice to withhold a kill?
I have two reasons for doing this, I was blocked last night and a kill still happened. A town roleblocker is likely to change their targets around unless it's someone who REALLY distrusts me and I don't see anyone in this game like that except for you publicly (lol), maybe cabot since I've been trying to mislynch him? But I think he would block Ty4on. What I'm getting at though is if there is no kill tomorrow, the roleblocker is going to claim and say "hey, I blocked X and no one died, X must be the last mafia!" If I'm unlucky, then they block me again, but odds are they don't and I get a free mislynch and get to kill the roleblocker the following night.
The second scenario is the SK finally starts to kill, if I withhold then their kill is seen as the mafia kill and the SK remains hidden. At this point, I do actually think I want their existence to be a surprise so that town ends up with a double kill night a day or two from now randomly which throws their mylo/lylo calculations out the window. The SK could, of course, kill me but at this point, we are going to have to gamble on a lot of luck to win.
So what do you think, take my plan to task and see if you notice any holes. I tend to get very ambitious when I'm by myself so I'd like a ground now while I still have one.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:03:04 GMT -8
I don't like how hostile Kawl is being suddenly Don't take it personally, he's a nice dude, he just treats these situations like I do when I'm town. Scum is a hostile element that is there to just cause confusion (and to be fair, that's exactly what I'm telling you to do). He's being smart and just negating you as much as he can so you don;t have the chance to cause said confusion.
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Post by batsnacks on Jul 29, 2016 19:05:37 GMT -8
If a player does not submit a night action by the deadline I will NOT RNG their action. I will assume they are withholding strategically.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 19:09:25 GMT -8
I like the plan. If ynny is the 1 shot cop then I think Kawl is the SK.
But what are the odds we and the SK picked the same target? With Sophia?
Did Kawl have any reason to go after her?
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:09:35 GMT -8
Sweet, thanks bats
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 19:11:58 GMT -8
I don't like how hostile Kawl is being suddenly Don't take it personally, he's a nice dude, he just treats these situations like I do when I'm town. Scum is a hostile element that is there to just cause confusion (and to be fair, that's exactly what I'm telling you to do). He's being smart and just negating you as much as he can so you don;t have the chance to cause said confusion. I'm a fragile being. I want more confusion and chaos.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:12:59 GMT -8
I like the plan. If ynny is the 1 shot cop then I think Kawl is the SK. But what are the odds we and the SK picked the same target? With Sophia? Did Kawl have any reason to go after her? I really doubt it's Kawl, he doesn't seem like the type to disclose his plan before anyone else brings it up and that's effectively what he did if he is the SK. That said, regardless of who it is, I have no clue what's going on. Are they withholding on purpose, did they somehow target L_P and Sophia at the same time as us? Both are crazy for different reasons. It could also be that the town blocker hit the SK N1 and then the SK hit Sophia as well N2? That's possible. Posting just for gut points, my gut is saying Splinter is the SK and cabot is the roleblocker.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:14:11 GMT -8
Don't take it personally, he's a nice dude, he just treats these situations like I do when I'm town. Scum is a hostile element that is there to just cause confusion (and to be fair, that's exactly what I'm telling you to do). He's being smart and just negating you as much as he can so you don;t have the chance to cause said confusion. I'm a fragile being. I want more confusion and chaos. I want more chaos too, it's a shame that YNNNY claimed so early in the day. I'm not the type of scum to just sit in the background when things are coasting easy but in a situation like this, the thread is basically in a halt until you flip.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 19:16:13 GMT -8
I honestly thought this would be the breather game before the big midseason games.
What a ride, bats.
Can't wait see the spec thread tomorrow after I'm out. They must be have fun lol
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 19:19:18 GMT -8
What can I do for the plan?
Talk about nothing? Claim town or Claim scum
Go full blarg?
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:20:01 GMT -8
I honestly thought this would be the breather game before the big midseason games. What a ride, bats. Can't wait see the spec thread tomorrow after I'm out. They must be have fun lol I can promise that Hyper has already went through 14 stages of happiness, sadness, and more happiness, and more sadness at our odds of winning. Mafia is always intense, never be lured by promises of "easy" or "mini" games.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:27:46 GMT -8
What can I do for the plan? Talk about nothing? Claim town or Claim scum Go full blarg? Never go full Blarg, I love the guy but I want to see how much we can salvage this I would definitely say fight as town to the end, don't crack or have a villain breakdown. What you're doing with the SK thing is good. You have a feeling one exists but you aren't sure why from a definite standpoint, it's a good story for the plan below. It could actually help down the line for two mislynches instead of one. Imagine that there is no kill tonight (this is relying on the SK actually holding kills so that's a crapshoot already but stick with me), the town blocker shows up tomorrow and say's they blocked X and there was no kill so X must be mafia. Town will know from your flip that the last scum is also a roleblocker so there is going to be some distrust there. Between Kawl, Ty4on, or Splinter, one of them will notice that a town roleblocker means that a SK must exist, they'll then think about you. You were trying to plant the seeds of a SK for some time now but why? Well you knew your teammate was going to claim to be a town blocker which meant a SK must exist, no proof of one yet though in this scenario. We then flip it around on the roleblocker and lynch him instead, last town PR dead by lynch, I kill whoever, hopefully the SK kills whoever else and not me then the following day everyone beats themselves up over lynching their last PR but whatever, s/he must have been telling the truth, person who was blocked must be the last maf, we lynch them and again, mis lynch. At that point the plan ends and I'm cold and alone but I'll figure something out, maybe.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 19:34:15 GMT -8
What if I suggest the high likely of the SK killing someone tonight and make a big deal about it thus making the real SK maybe (there's a chance) choose to hold their kill tonight?
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 19:44:10 GMT -8
What if I suggest the high likely of the SK killing someone tonight and make a big deal about it thus making the real SK maybe (there's a chance) choose to hold their kill tonight? Unfortunately, I doubt anything anyone says will really color what the SK does, as coincidental as it would be, I could completely see the SK getting blocked N1 and then killing Sophia N2 so they might just be invisible at this point because of luck. You're already on that train of thought though so I see no issue with keeping it going.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 20:04:04 GMT -8
K. I'll just keep talking.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 20:23:31 GMT -8
I'll resume tomorrow. Heading to bed.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 29, 2016 20:33:45 GMT -8
Night night! Sleep well.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 20:36:09 GMT -8
I will say before I go it is odd ynny keeps making comments that suggests she isn't definite of my guilt.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 29, 2016 20:36:22 GMT -8
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 5:56:59 GMT -8
Up now. Seeing if anything else can be done before I go.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 6:59:34 GMT -8
Why is Ty going along with the mason claim? Hmmm.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 30, 2016 8:56:52 GMT -8
Why is Ty going along with the mason claim? Hmmm. He trusts me and is fishing for reactions. It's not actually a bad move aside from the trusting me part, I think he let it go for a bit long though to be optimal.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 9:30:18 GMT -8
Hmm. Likely.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 30, 2016 10:45:24 GMT -8
Hmm. Likely. Sorry I can't be of more help. Nah, you're fine, it's a shame that you got caught in this position, I know it drains a lot of the fun, especially when town doesn't have the option to turbo and end it fast.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 10:53:51 GMT -8
First time being scum and only my second game. Still I was hoping to play a bit better.
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Post by Sorian on Jul 30, 2016 11:14:36 GMT -8
First time being scum and only my second game. Still I was hoping to play a bit better. You didn't play bad at all, there was some sketchiness on your part but some of it is just bad draw that someone who was a cop really suspected you.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 11:48:54 GMT -8
Thanks. Not sure if I earned that.
I want to keep improving with each and every game.
Do I do anything special for my exit or just let it go?
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Post by Sorian on Jul 30, 2016 12:46:51 GMT -8
Thanks. Not sure if I earned that. I want to keep improving with each and every game. Do I do anything special for my exit or just let it go? I was afk but I would have just said let it go anyway so all good Nice playing with you melon even if it was only for a bit over a day, I'll try to at least give you and Hyper a little bit of a show.
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Post by melonrabbit on Jul 30, 2016 12:48:08 GMT -8
Nice playing with you, Sorian. Win it for us all. Can I be added to the spec/dead thread whenever is convenient for you this weekend, bats? Thanks
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