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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 8:04:02 GMT -8
I guess Mazre is taking the bullet here.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 8:14:13 GMT -8
He may indeed. But he does that.
Subs, general commentary Crimsonfist - I would not recommend going toe to toe with him. He's a decent player on any team. Treat him like squidy. Don't suck up, but don't argue. Answer questions reasonably and thoroughly. Don't lie if at all possible not to. Actually I don't lie in this game much, it's easier to tell the truth in a way nobody will believe. Flame - I think he's pretty analytical and on the quiet side. I wouldn't try to predict his behavior based on his comments, because he may be keeping his cards close to his vest.
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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 8:22:26 GMT -8
Hm, hm, seems like we got two dangerous new competitors ^_^
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 10:03:54 GMT -8
If you want me to hang out to advise you for day end, just say so and I certainly will.
Otherwise I'll catch you tomorrow, real time.
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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 10:07:54 GMT -8
It should be fine. I'll catch you tomorrow then.
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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 13:35:58 GMT -8
Whew, almost died. But Mazre's death is delicious. Not only does it prove multiple scum teams, it highlights a lot of suspicion.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 13:39:23 GMT -8
Right. Our choices for night boil down to: check squidy, or super kill squidy assuming he's the moon. And the other thing will depend on that choice.
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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 14:16:13 GMT -8
Hm? So who do we hunt tonight?
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 14:22:59 GMT -8
Well, what's your opinion, as loremaster of the team? Is squidy, with Reflect Damage, the Moon Presence? Or is he potentially another old one? Using the super kill can only be done once, and then it's gone. Do you wish to hunt him tonight for verification or take the bold gamble of assuming he's our target entirely based on mazre killing himself off squidy. How much of a risk taker are you?
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Post by verelios on Jun 19, 2016 16:20:05 GMT -8
I'm thinking we should hunt him. It seems like Roy and him shouldn't have protection so maybe directly killing them would be okay, but I don't want you to waste your super kill so early. We can always try day 3 (probably won't be alive for the 3rd night)
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 18:41:36 GMT -8
Kill: palmer_v1 Ok, you hunt him.
I'll try to kill someone.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 19, 2016 22:24:07 GMT -8
I beseech an audience with the great ones this night in regard to my earlier petition.
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Post by verelios on Jun 20, 2016 7:26:33 GMT -8
HUNT: Squidyj
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Post by Retro on Jun 20, 2016 16:50:19 GMT -8
I beseech an audience with the great ones this night in regard to my earlier petition. Is this a petition to the Lady of the Hunt? Forgive me, I'm not sure what you are referring to, here.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 20, 2016 20:16:02 GMT -8
I beseech an audience with the great ones this night in regard to my earlier petition. Is this a petition to the Lady of the Hunt? Forgive me, I'm not sure what you are referring to, here. Perhaps you and Scrafty missed this exchange, or thought I was doing a gambit. In fact, this post I made was absolutely literal. .
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Post by Retro on Jun 20, 2016 21:28:39 GMT -8
I apologize, Weemad, I did completely miss that exchange. As you are planning to kill Palmer, a modkill would likely be useless, (and that's not my call to make anyway,) but I will make a statement in the game thread, and I will approach Palmer privately about his behavior.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 20, 2016 21:39:24 GMT -8
Please note, that while I have read the day end stuff and see that he allegedly apologized, I don't personally consider "sorry you're so sensitive, geez" to indicate anything other than additional insults.
Yes, I have him targeted. I just wanted, during the night, to know whether that exchange seemed as severe to an impartial observer as it did to me. Also whether "I didn't see that mod post" is sufficient defense for repeatedly violating the rules of "don't be a dick" and "call people by their chosen pronouns etc". Obviously a modkill is not my decision, either. But if one was deemed appropriate, I would choose another target.
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Post by Retro on Jun 20, 2016 21:50:04 GMT -8
Please note, that while I have read the day end stuff and see that he allegedly apologized, I don't personally consider "sorry you're so sensitive, geez" to indicate anything other than additional insults. Yes, I have him targeted. I just wanted, during the night, to know whether that exchange seemed as severe to an impartial observer as it did to me. Also whether "I didn't see that mod post" is sufficient defense for repeatedly violating the rules of "don't be a dick" and "call people by their chosen pronouns etc". Obviously a modkill is not my decision, either. But if one was deemed appropriate, I would choose another target. I just saw Palmer's response, and I don't think that's what he was doing. I think that was a sincere apology. It's possible that it's because I've gotten to know Palmer a little better than most, but I read his response as "I apologize. I was trying to annoy you, but I recognize that I crossed a line through ignorance." Personally, I do think that Palmer's apology was sincere, but as the issue has come up multiple times in this game, I am going to address it in thread, in a big post, so that no one else misses it.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 20, 2016 21:57:59 GMT -8
All right, I'll accept your interpretation. I was extremely irritated when I read it the first time, and not much inclined to believe in its sincerity.
As we've discussed before, the nickname itself is not a real issue (although I read the post with the misnaming 3 times before I realized it was talking about me, which is a handicap in this game). The issue is repeated behavior that has been corrected directly by a mod already. And with my own partner misunderstanding the gender rule (he clearly read my sign up post, but his general reasoning is backwards on what people choosing neutral pronouns are likely to prefer), and Nudull having to correct yet another user on that question, this whole game has felt full of unconcern for the humans behind the usernames. And not from the noobs.
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Post by verelios on Jun 21, 2016 3:36:11 GMT -8
Oh, did I? Sorry for that, I've always tried to use a gender neutral they, but I might have messed up. I apologize if I did.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 21, 2016 8:24:02 GMT -8
Oh, did I? Sorry for that, I've always tried to use a gender neutral they, but I might have messed up. I apologize if I did. No, no. It was Ri'Orius.
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Post by verelios on Jun 21, 2016 9:24:52 GMT -8
Okay. Still, I'll remember to use gender neutral pronouns.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 21, 2016 9:55:34 GMT -8
Okay. Still, I'll remember to use gender neutral pronouns. You are doing great this game. If one of us dies in the night, the other will just need to keep on keeping on. Your chances are lower of making it to end game, not because of your play, but because sometimes the vote turns into a popularity contest, and you don't seem to know anyone yet. Sorry about all the tangents filling up the thread.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 21, 2016 10:40:50 GMT -8
Scraftydevil, if you have any comment on the topic at hand, I'd like to hear it. Publicly or privately.
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Post by verelios on Jun 21, 2016 10:46:39 GMT -8
Okay. Still, I'll remember to use gender neutral pronouns. You are doing great this game. If one of us dies in the night, the other will just need to keep on keeping on. Your chances are lower of making it to end game, not because of your play, but because sometimes the vote turns into a popularity contest, and you don't seem to know anyone yet. Sorry about all the tangents filling up the thread. Haha, chances of me living till the end are pretty low. I guess there's a 50/50 chance someone will kill me tonight.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jun 21, 2016 13:18:08 GMT -8
Scraftydevil, if you have any comment on the topic at hand, I'd like to hear it. Publicly or privately. Sorry, I've been busy at work all day. I wasn't able to catch the offending post initially because of how fast the thread was moving, but I'll be sure to strictly adjudicate lapses in basic decency moving forward. I'll make a note to everyone to adhere to preferred pronouns at the beginning of the day and if anyone fails to we'll decide on what course of action to take.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 21, 2016 14:19:14 GMT -8
Thank you for the response.
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Post by weemadarthur on Jun 21, 2016 14:27:25 GMT -8
Now, V, let's actually talk about the lyn ch.
Mazre used a highlighted override command. Kirkhammer. He died because of it. But his role didn't say he had that power.
So, had mazre been given a weapon by an armorer? (They can create killer items as well as saving items). Or, did he use a fake command and technically get modkilled for it without that being clear? Who on earth would have given an instant kill weapon to mazre during night one? He barely seemed townish to anyone. Just me that I recall. Although I could look..... Perhaps he started with a partner who was in his neutral group and is an armorer.
Does this matter? I dunno. We still need to hunt squidy and kill Palmer, our number 1&2 targets since before the game started.....
Manufacturing overrides would be OP. Lots of people could be bulletproof. Like Haly. His non death could be due to natural protection. A Plain Doll could easily resurrect.
Do you know any named character who reflects damage back on the attacker? Or someone particularly invulnerable to the kirkhammer?
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Post by verelios on Jun 21, 2016 17:10:26 GMT -8
There shouldn't be anyone who really has invulnerability to the Kirkhammer. I'm drawing a blank, but I didn't finish the last phases of the chalice dungeon so it may have been that there was a boss but I didn't realize, or that it's not invulnerability but resistance to blunt weapons.
Just off the top of my head there are 5 or so bosses resistant to blunt dmg.
I find the idea of an armorer interesting. I'm more of the mind that one of Mazre's partners has the ability to gift armoury during the night, and he just so happened to end up with that.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jun 21, 2016 18:29:09 GMT -8
Just to make things clear, his Kirkhammer command was a joke and in no way related to any existing gameplay mechanics. He clarified this in the general thread so I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been said.
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