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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 6, 2016 14:56:19 GMT -8
Damn, Healing church played that weirdly. You think theres any more of them? It seems like in a game this size 3 + a possible recruitment would be about right along with 3 of us. Also were you able to recruit Kris? From the role info Hobo posted initially I really didn't get that we could fully recruit someone.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 15:18:05 GMT -8
Red is Healing Church. Green is Mensis/Fully Converted. Blue is Neutral. White is Vanilla Townie, Yellow is Town PR.
Whole Player List: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New
02 [m] Verelios - New
03 [-] Nudull - New 04 [m] MickD - New
05 [m] TheWorthyEdge 06 [m] Camjo-Z
07 [m] Kristoffer 08 [m] Freakinchair
09 [m] Ri'Orius
10 [m] Haly 11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx
12 [m] flatearthpandas
13 [m] EzekelRAGE 14 [m] Flame_AC 15 [m] CrimsonFist 16 [m] johnnyquicknives
17 [m] Never Forever 18 [-] Seath
19 [m] Mazre
20 [m] Palmer_v1 21 [m] roytheone 22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 24 [m] Kalor
Alive Players: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New 04 [m] MickD - New 06 [m] Camjo-Z 08 [m] Freakinchair 11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx 14 [m] Flame_AC 15 [m] CrimsonFist 16 [m] johnnyquicknives 18 [-] Seath 21 [m] roytheone 22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 24 [m] Kalor
So we know 5 out of the 13 players, and can likely say that Squidy is confirmed town. Giving us 6/13. There's probably no more than 1 Healing Church left, but we're not going to find them today. Mislynch today and kill during night plus conversion makes it 6 town v 4 Mensis v 1 Church.
Will still be awhile till we can have a chance of winning.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 15:19:23 GMT -8
I think the recruit just refers to our conversion for the win condition, not an actual new faction member. But town is going to read it as you did and may lynch Roytheone for it, which will really set it back.
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 6, 2016 15:39:25 GMT -8
I dunno it's pretty specific in saying if he's 'recruited' we get to 'convert' someone instantly. Crimson coming to your rescue a bit there, I wonder if Kris was fishing for recruitment, he would probably have read the role that way as well.
Obviously lynching someone else would be better but I don't think it's too bad a set back, it's a day we aren't getting lynched and get to make more night actions. We should probably fully convert someone else tonight though.
At this point I'm fairly expendable, 1 conversion point a night isn't that useful.
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 6, 2016 15:43:20 GMT -8
Also for the new page
Roy: Converted
Kalor: 2 Zipped: 3 FEP: 1 Chair: 1 Crimson: 3 Seath: 1
Obviously any of those number could potentially be doubled by Oedon shenanigans.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 15:45:59 GMT -8
Maybe, I can see where you're coming from.
I'm glad Crimson is doing it, didn't want to go in the can of worms.
I;m not sure where today's lynch is going to go, no one seems like that great of a target.
I was right on about Freakinchair wanting to shoot me last night, the probing question that was put out there about what people think of me was clear.
In reality, if you go, then I get to pick up the point you give. The real loss comes from your roleblocking.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 15:48:32 GMT -8
I forget off the top of my head, did you already state that you 'protected' Freakinchair on Night 2? When he was unable to vig kill someone.
Because if so, then you;ll probably be the one lynched today as I or someone else can bring up the argument that 'two times you have claimed to protect someone, yet they were unable to do their actions, therefore you must be the roleblocker.'
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 6, 2016 16:02:48 GMT -8
My hope was just that surely I wouldn't be that obvious  Also both nights they were really obvious targets so they made sense for both doctors and roleblockers.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 16:54:38 GMT -8
To be clear, you have made that statement in the game thread?
Would you mind if I brought it up?
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 6, 2016 17:16:52 GMT -8
Kind of, I was cagey with wording. I've never actually said that I was a doctor I don't think. I was leaving it open for potentially claiming something different but similar if I needed to.
You want post 1531. I'm fine with you bringing it up, but I won't be able to respond until at least lunch time tomorrow so if you could hold off a wee bit so there isn't too much stacked up it would be good. If you want to get in first though thats fine. I'm basically going to have to bait a 'real' doctor claim on the assumption that I'm the only protection role.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 19:54:16 GMT -8
Posted, waited until I was getting close to heading to bed. It's not a high quality post, but it does list the basics, don't want to make it too tough.
As far as endgame speculation goes. How do you think town would react to me claiming Mensis, this would of course be late in the game, but you think they would auto-lynch or do you think I could sell that there is one Healing Church left and that we should find them instead.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 20:46:35 GMT -8
You're dead....  At least I got my post in before the counterclaim came out and we drew out the doctor.
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 21:39:12 GMT -8
Another question, what do you think of me not giving out any points during this night?
Scum will kill the doctor leaving Seath to run free and track someone. It will be very obvious what I am if Seath sees me and then no one dies. What do you think the chances of me being tracked are compared to the others?
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Post by flameac on Jul 6, 2016 21:59:19 GMT -8
Do not try and attack or throw shade on me more then just addressing my reasoning, we do not want it to look like bussing, though I doubt anyone is really going to think I'm Mensis after jumping on Mazre and now you.
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 7, 2016 5:01:44 GMT -8
Don't worry, when I said I was expendable I was cool with dying, I'm shocked I lasted this long. I don't really think I can talk myself out of this, theres so many loopholes to navigate My only concern is that you're still catching leftover noise from Hobo and it might look like you came after me too hard, hopefully someone will pick up on Crimsons post.
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Post by flameac on Jul 7, 2016 7:42:34 GMT -8
Alright, I'm up to four points given out each night, right?
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jul 7, 2016 9:28:00 GMT -8
Yes, that is correct.
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Post by johnnyquicknives on Jul 7, 2016 9:29:37 GMT -8
Good luck!
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Post by flameac on Jul 7, 2016 13:28:01 GMT -8
So there's no point in giving points to Seath or Vanguard, both will be killed soon. I'm going to claim sleepwalker using the fakeclaim given as 'The Eastern Wanderer' if Seath tracks me. Will put points on MagnumBoy, he's not likely to be killed based on his activity. Added to the count below. Assume Vanguard dies tonight, makes it 11 players left. 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 1 Converted Mensis, 8 Town. Mislynch Day 6 -> 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 1 Converted Mensis, 7 Town. Night 6 -> 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 2 Converted Mensis, 5 Town. - Mislynch Day 7 -> 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 2 Converted Mensis, 4 Town. Night 7 -> 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 3 Converted Mensis, 2 Town. - Mislynch Day 8 -> 1 HC, 1 Mensis, 3 Converted Mensis, 1 Town. .... win? Red is Healing Church. Green is Mensis/Fully Converted. Blue is Neutral. White is Vanilla Townie, Yellow is Town PR. Whole Player List: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New02 [m] Verelios - New03 [-] Nudull - New04 [m] MickD - New 05 [m] TheWorthyEdge06 [m] Camjo-Z 07 [m] Kristoffer08 [m] Freakinchair09 [m] Ri'Orius10 [m] Haly11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx 12 [m] flatearthpandas13 [m] EzekelRAGE14 [m] Flame_AC 15 [m] CrimsonFist 16 [m] johnnyquicknives17 [m] Never Forever18 [-] Seath19 [m] Mazre20 [m] Palmer_v121 [m] roytheone 22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 24 [m] Kalor Alive Players: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New04 [m] MickD - New 06 [m] Camjo-Z 08 [m] Freakinchair 1 KB 11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx 4 KB 14 [m] Flame_AC15 [m] CrimsonFist 3 KB 18 [-] Seath 1 KB 21 [m] roytheone22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 3 KB 24 [m] Kalor - 2 KB
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Post by flameac on Jul 7, 2016 13:28:47 GMT -8
Drink: MagnumBoy20xx
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Post by flameac on Jul 7, 2016 13:32:12 GMT -8
I'm not saying it's going to be nearly impossible to win, but I don't like my chances here.
To make sure, I have to convert every player, not pull a simple majority?
I and everyone I have and will be converting have to survive the next 4 phases without getting hit.
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Post by flameac on Jul 9, 2016 13:24:16 GMT -8
Roy's got an interesting scheme going, he could be the last Healing Church maybe. Would make sense considering people have discussed killing the converted Mensis players. If he's HC, he has to get that off of him.
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Post by flameac on Jul 9, 2016 14:13:33 GMT -8
It's such a baity post, if I go after it, then it'll be clear that I'm Mensis.
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 8:37:13 GMT -8
Squidy is completely wrong....?
Roy is the only player converted, it's not possible for him to have been converted and another player. Maybe it spreads like a communicable disease?
Camjo in 1650 states that two more people have been converted since Roy? What is all this nonsense?
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 8:41:31 GMT -8
I'm just gonna sit out most of the day if I can and let them go in circles about backstabbing and gossips and how Mensis is so close to winning.
If there is still HC out there and this isn't Freakinchair doing the killing... I dunno.
If there's still HC out there, I'd say from likely to unlikely: Roy > Squidy > Camjo > Others
The seeming clear of Squidy early in the game shouldn't have as much weight as it currently does.
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 14:40:30 GMT -8
Maybe I've forgotten something, but I don't remember anything about there being a town roleblocker...
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 18:50:29 GMT -8
So Crimson resides in the Chapel which why he was converted...
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 18:53:38 GMT -8
So we've got 3 out 11 currently. I'm gonna try and have Roy or Crimson lynched today though. Makes it 2 on 10, 3 on 9 after the next night. Red is Healing Church. Green is Mensis/Fully Converted. Blue is Neutral. White is Vanilla Townie, Yellow is Town PR. Whole Player List: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New02 [m] Verelios - New03 [-] Nudull - New04 [m] MickD - New 05 [m] TheWorthyEdge06 [m] Camjo-Z 07 [m] Kristoffer08 [m] Freakinchair09 [m] Ri'Orius10 [m] Haly11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx 12 [m] flatearthpandas13 [m] EzekelRAGE14 [m] Flame_AC15 [m] CrimsonFist 16 [m] johnnyquicknives17 [m] Never Forever18 [-] Seath19 [m] Mazre20 [m] Palmer_v121 [m] roytheone 22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 24 [m] Kalor Alive Players: 01 [m] II-Vanguard-II - New04 [m] MickD - New 06 [m] Camjo-Z 08 [m] Freakinchair 1 KB 11 [m] MagnumBoy20xx 4 KB 14 [m] Flame_AC15 [m] CrimsonFist 3 KB -> 6 If Believed to be Oedon Chapel Resident -> Converted21 [m] roytheone22 [m] squidyj 23 [m] Zippedpinhead 3 KB 24 [m] Kalor - 2 KB
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Post by flameac on Jul 10, 2016 18:55:47 GMT -8
And then someone out there is a gossip, of which Squidy, Roy, and CF were all involved apparently.
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Post by flameac on Jul 11, 2016 6:26:07 GMT -8
..... what if the Oedon Chapel is the gossip chat?!
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